Obama pushes jobs in trip fraught with politics

And so begins a year of political lying and butt-kissing from both parties in order to win an election.

ONE party has already proven they can't create
jobs, so lying from them is expected. To those
who are still blind as to what is going on, your
the target. Its expected of you to continue
to spread the lies about the economy and jobs.
It will be impossible for most who are STILL
without jobs to swallow this again. Anyone
who has an "idea" will be shot down before they
leave the gate. So expect exactly what you want and will get....More lies for those who want to hear it again.... Don't be silly enough to
expect anything different but then look what
we are dealing with...

>>>In North Carolina on Monday, the president will meet with his Jobs and Competitiveness Council and promote more jobs in targeted industries. Later, he will attend three fundraisers in donor-rich Miami. He will end his travels Tuesday in Puerto Rico.

In an opinion piece published Monday in The Wall Street Journal, General Electric chairman and CEO Jeff Immelt, the head of Obama's jobs council, and American Express CEO and chairman Ken Chennault laid out a job plan that included easing visa applications to attract more tourists and increasing energy efficiency in commercial buildings.<<<

how does ANYONE still back this inept loser?
and how HASN'T there been any outrage about jeff immelt?

oh, yeah... the media.

liz wrote:

ONE party has already proven they can't create
jobs, so lying from them is expected. To those
who are still blind as to what is going on, your
the target. Its expected of you to continue
to spread the lies about the economy and jobs.
It will be impossible for most who are STILL
without jobs to swallow this again. Anyone
who has an "idea" will be shot down before they
leave the gate. So expect exactly what you want and will get....More lies for those who want to hear it again.... Don't be silly enough to
expect anything different but then look what
we are dealing with...

I think BOTH parties have proven they can't create jobs.

NO ONE is going to "create" jobs until those manufacturing jobs are made to come back to the United States and cheap foreign labor is ended. Let's see which party has balls enough to do that.

carey529 wrote:

>>>In North Carolina on Monday, the president will meet with his Jobs and Competitiveness Council and promote more jobs in targeted industries. Later, he will attend three fundraisers in donor-rich Miami. He will end his travels Tuesday in Puerto Rico.
In an opinion piece published Monday in The Wall Street Journal, General Electric chairman and CEO Jeff Immelt, the head of Obama's jobs council, and American Express CEO and chairman Ken Chennault laid out a job plan that included easing visa applications to attract more tourists and increasing energy efficiency in commercial buildings.<<<
how does ANYONE still back this inept loser?
and how HASN'T there been any outrage about jeff immelt?
oh, yeah... the media.

I absolutely agree, Carey, but let me ask you this. Was anyone complaining about GE when they were earning top dividends from them during the Iraq War? What about all the controversies surrounding Halliburton and the tax money THEY walked away with?

Do you think GE is the only company that gets away with not paying its fair share of taxes? It's a known fact that the US loses hundreds of billions of dollars a year in revenue from earnings that are hidden or undisclosed in some form or fashion.

It's all relevant, so if you're going to complain about one company you have to consider them all. Our tax code is created in such a way as to protect these companies while the rest of us have to make up the difference for they don't pay. And as long as these companies are allowed to coerce lawmakers with the threat of national abandonment then they will be allowed to do whatever they please.

tidy catz wrote:

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I think BOTH parties have proven they can't create jobs.
NO ONE is going to "create" jobs until those manufacturing jobs are made to come back to the United States and cheap foreign labor is ended. Let's see which party has balls enough to do that.

And none of those manufacturing jobs are going to come back to the U.S. as long as they have the Healthscam Bill staring them in the face. Republicans in the House have already done what's needed for jobs by voting to repeal the bill. Ball is in the Democrat's court.

Yep, Obama finally realizes that he has to get the private sector moving in order to pay for all of the new government jobs he has invented........but he hasn't a clue about how to do it.

carey529 wrote:

>>>In North Carolina on Monday, the president will meet with his Jobs and Competitiveness Council and promote more jobs in targeted industries. Later, he will attend three fundraisers in donor-rich Miami. He will end his travels Tuesday in Puerto Rico.
In an opinion piece published Monday in The Wall Street Journal, General Electric chairman and CEO Jeff Immelt, the head of Obama's jobs council, and American Express CEO and chairman Ken Chennault laid out a job plan that included easing visa applications to attract more tourists and increasing energy efficiency in commercial buildings.<<<
how does ANYONE still back this inept loser?
and how HASN'T there been any outrage about jeff immelt?
oh, yeah... the media.

"Outrage?" About what, the fact that big corporations have the ears of politicians because they contribute to their campaigns? This is NEWS to you?

America is a corporatocracy, no matter which party's in charge.

sailorman2 wrote:

Yep, Obama finally realizes that he has to get the private sector moving in order to pay for all of the new government jobs he has invented........but he hasn't a clue about how to do it.

What "government jobs he has invented?" the private sector is what creates jobs, and they're not doing it.

Anyone who is still believeing in Obama are
the same people who BUYS all those things
advertised on TV. And are surprised they
don't work. They are still believing in OBAMA,
and scrathing their heads but will vote for
him again.
Seeing is not believing to them.
Thinking Obama realizes it now, yea, he will
continue to do as he has, because there are
those who think he needs more time to ruin us.
Leopards do not change their spots, and Obama
is on a mission and he will not quit until he
accomplishes what he wants to do. Only voters
will stop him....Think his followers will QUIT
blameing Bush long enough to see the light???
My brother used to blame everything on me when
he got in trouble and he was 5yrs old and I was
3........

harvey wrote:

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What "government jobs he has invented?" the private sector is what creates jobs, and they're not doing it.

Oh for starters how about 16000 new IRS agents. Something like 200000 in new bureaucracies pertaining to ObamaCare.

harvey wrote:

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What "government jobs he has invented?" the private sector is what creates jobs, and they're not doing it.

Just wondering? How many private jobs does it take to pay for 1 government job?

dragoon70056 wrote:

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And none of those manufacturing jobs are going to come back to the U.S. as long as they have the Healthscam Bill staring them in the face. Republicans in the House have already done what's needed for jobs by voting to repeal the bill. Ball is in the Democrat's court.

Jobs were leaving the U.S. by the scores long before Obama became president so your excuse is invalid. Nice try but most Americans are smart enough to understand that corporate greed is what has left us jobless. Those backstabbing American companies enjoy being headquartered in this country but they spit in the face of American workers and hire foreigners so the company CEO's can earn record salaries.

Neither Republicans nor Democrats can or will do what is needed for jobs. Being unemployed isn't a problem for them... THEY have a a job (paid for by the taxpayer). Like everything else that affects the working people of America, Washington just isn't interested.

tidy catz wrote:

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I absolutely agree, Carey, but let me ask you this. Was anyone complaining about GE when they were earning top dividends from them during the Iraq War? What about all the controversies surrounding Halliburton and the tax money THEY walked away with?
Do you think GE is the only company that gets away with not paying its fair share of taxes? It's a known fact that the US loses hundreds of billions of dollars a year in revenue from earnings that are hidden or undisclosed in some form or fashion.
It's all relevant, so if you're going to complain about one company you have to consider them all. Our tax code is created in such a way as to protect these companies while the rest of us have to make up the difference for they don't pay. And as long as these companies are allowed to coerce lawmakers with the threat of national abandonment then they will be allowed to do whatever they please.

this ISN'T about taxes...the tax issue could be fixed in 30 seconds...you totally missed my point...
as ceo of g.e., immelt took their stock on a nosedive! PLENTY of shareholders were complaining! but, THAT'S not my point, either...as the parent company of nbc, g.e./immelt totally committed that network to electing obama...they skewed their news, their commentary and their ads to promote obama above all else...
in return, immelt/g.e. was to profit IN THE $ BILLIONS from cap and trade, and, the green energy push...that hasn't worked out as well as he was promised by obama (imagine THAT!)...so, he gets made the chair of an advisory board.
it's as crooked, disgusting, and, probably illegal as when obama totally disregarded the bankrupcy laws to give majority ownership and control of the auto companies to the unions, while screwing the bondholders.

there is a HUGE conflict of interest between obama and immelt/g.e./nbc, just as there is between obama and seiu and, the uaw.

it would have brought down a republican president...

tidy catz wrote:

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Jobs were leaving the U.S. by the scores long before Obama became president so your excuse is invalid. Nice try but most Americans are smart enough to understand that corporate greed is what has left us jobless. Those backstabbing American companies enjoy being headquartered in this country but they spit in the face of American workers and hire foreigners so the company CEO's can earn record salaries.
Neither Republicans nor Democrats can or will do what is needed for jobs. Being unemployed isn't a problem for them... THEY have a a job (paid for by the taxpayer). Like everything else that affects the working people of America, Washington just isn't interested.

MOST of those jobs left because the companies...
a. couldn't afford to pay union wages and benefits and maintain competitveness
b. couldn't afford the epa regulation
c. government regulating how they do business.

the tax issues WERE pretty much on the bottom of the list of reasons, as WAS healthcare costs...

not so much anymore.

tidy catz wrote:

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Jobs were leaving the U.S. by the scores long before Obama became president so your excuse is invalid. Nice try but most Americans are smart enough to understand that corporate greed is what has left us jobless. Those backstabbing American companies enjoy being headquartered in this country but they spit in the face of American workers and hire foreigners so the company CEO's can earn record salaries.
Neither Republicans nor Democrats can or will do what is needed for jobs. Being unemployed isn't a problem for them... THEY have a a job (paid for by the taxpayer). Like everything else that affects the working people of America, Washington just isn't interested.

I think you are mostly correct but what is the purpose of a corporation? Is it to provide jobs or is its purpose to make things or provide a service with jobs being a byproduct? Greed certainly plays a big part in corporations leaving the US but I remember NAFTA and Perot and the giant sucking sound he referred to also. And corporate taxes have also driven many away. Also speaking of greed how about unions pricing themselves out of a job? As far as democrat and republican politicians go you couldn't be more right. I can't make up my mind if they are just clueless or just don't give a damn. And I think this is what brought about the tea party and the 2010 elections.

harvey wrote:

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What "government jobs he has invented?" the private sector is what creates jobs, and they're not doing it.

>>>Government Jobs account for 95% of Job Growth
Published on 04 June 2010 by admin in General News
0 Even with our crushing 13 trillion dollar debt and nearly 2 trillion dollar projected deficit, the Obama Administration’s only jobs program still continues to be fleecing taxpayers though the creation of more government jobs. In May, nearly 95% of new jobs – over 400,000 – were from the federal government. Most of them were temporary Census jobs.<<<

that DOESN'T include the jobs the 153 NEW government agencies created by obamacare will create.

THOSE jobs, harvey.
(and THAT'S only 7% of the 6 million jobs that useless turd PROMISED america he WOULD create!)

sailorman2 wrote:

<quoted text>Oh for starters how about 16000 new IRS agents. Something like 200000 in new bureaucracies pertaining to ObamaCare.

Link?

sailorman2 wrote:

<quoted text>Just wondering? How many private jobs does it take to pay for 1 government job?

Don't know, and don't care. You're the one obsessed with government jobs.

carey529 wrote:

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MOST of those jobs left because the companies...
a. couldn't afford to pay union wages and benefits and maintain competitveness
b. couldn't afford the epa regulation
c. government regulating how they do business.
the tax issues WERE pretty much on the bottom of the list of reasons, as WAS healthcare costs...
not so much anymore.

Lies, of course, all partisan and all equally smelly.

Jobs moved overseas because of cheaper labor, higher profits, and encouragement by foolish politicians - both Dem and Repub.

Think for yourself once in awhile...