UAW accepts defeat of plan to change Ford deal

Goood !!!!!

Its about time

i agree.

If Mulally can keep his wages and benefits, why can't we????

UAW Ford workers I support you 100%!!!!

Sincerely,
UAW Chrysler Employee.

The fact that GM and Chrysler accepted the two tier wages, merging of trade classifications, and healthcare concessions means that Ford is now at a disadvantage and will need to lower their costs in other ways, like off shore jobs.

We should have done that along time ago...Too bad they used Chrysler as a model. You better stand firm before your a thing of the past ...Like Chrysler!!!!

JIMXTEP wrote:

The fact that GM and Chrysler accepted the two tier wages, merging of trade classifications, and healthcare concessions means that Ford is now at a disadvantage and will need to lower their costs in other ways, like off shore jobs.

Ford already has two tier.. They accepted that when GM and Chrysler did . Ford wanted wage freezes on the 2nd tier which is what GM and Chrysler agreed to under recent modifications .

Ford Motor Co. wanted a deal from the UAW that was similar to those reached earlier this year with General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC.

That included:

• Requirement for binding arbitration if there were disagreements over wage and benefit improvements in 2011, when the next contract is negotiated.

• Wage freeze for entry-level workers hired between now and 2015.

• Consolidation of skilled worker classifications into "mechanical skilled-trades teams," at all plants.

TiredoftheBS wrote:

<quoted text>Ford already has two tier.. They accepted that when GM and Chrysler did . Ford wanted wage freezes on the 2nd tier which is what GM and Chrysler agreed to under recent modifications .
Ford Motor Co. wanted a deal from the UAW that was similar to those reached earlier this year with General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC.
That included:
• Requirement for binding arbitration if there were disagreements over wage and benefit improvements in 2011, when the next contract is negotiated.
• Wage freeze for entry-level workers hired between now and 2015.
• Consolidation of skilled worker classifications into "mechanical skilled-trades teams," at all plants.

That is fair for Ford I hope this crowd is out of a job-greedy bastards. Hope Ford has to restructure like gm and chry

debbie wrote:

<quoted text> That is fair for Ford I hope this crowd is out of a job-greedy bastards. Hope Ford has to restructure like gm and chry

why would you wan't that? you need to see a doctor, you are a very disturbed person!

debbie wrote:

<quoted text> That is fair for Ford I hope this crowd is out of a job-greedy bastards. Hope Ford has to restructure like gm and chry

You better just say home and take care of the kids and do the wash, are u dirty debbie?

The Ford workers voting this down was more of a "no confidence" vote in the UAW than anything else.
Auto workers are tired of the UAW telling them what to do without giving them ALL the info & details.
Auto workers are tired of the UAW selling them down the river to protect the cushy jobs in the International.
Auto workers are tired of having no say in how their union is run.
Auto workers are tired of being lied to and tricked by the UAW.

debbie wrote:

<quoted text> That is fair for Ford I hope this crowd is out of a job-greedy bastards. Hope Ford has to restructure like gm and chry

You into scat?.The way your talking you love a mouthful of corn log.

Ford posts $997-million profit, beats expectations

WITH OUT THE GIVE BACKS or ron selling them out.

JIMXTEP wrote:

The fact that GM and Chrysler accepted the two tier wages, merging of trade classifications, and healthcare concessions means that Ford is now at a disadvantage and will need to lower their costs in other ways, like off shore jobs.

With the devaluation of the dollar I wouldn't be surprised to see manufacturing return to the United States. Watch the European manufacturers relocate to the US to build products for the European market.

ClawedFace wrote:

<quoted text>You better just say home and take care of the kids and do the wash, are u dirty debbie?

You think she'll let me use her toilet?.

Paladin wrote:

<quoted text>With the devaluation of the dollar I wouldn't be surprised to see manufacturing return to the United States. Watch the European manufacturers relocate to the US to build products for the European market.

It will help in some decisions to offshore new things, but it won't bring much back. Now if the dollar tanks, and oil prices truly skyrocket(not from inflation) then that may be enough to turn the tide. I know when gas was in the $4.00 range, many companies were revaluating their cost structures, on the imported items.

guess who wrote:

<quoted text>
It will help in some decisions to offshore new things, but it won't bring much back. Now if the dollar tanks, and oil prices truly skyrocket(not from inflation) then that may be enough to turn the tide. I know when gas was in the $4.00 range, many companies were revaluating their cost structures, on the imported items.

I Agree it’s going to get real interesting when China wants their money. Wouldn't it be something if they stopped sending their goods here because the money's no good?

JIMXTEP wrote:

The fact that GM and Chrysler accepted the two tier wages, merging of trade classifications, and healthcare concessions means that Ford is now at a disadvantage and will need to lower their costs in other ways, like off shore jobs.

When the man has the axe over your head, you got to give in or go headless, the bad thing about what happened is how we had to dump on our retires to keep our jobs, its like a catch 22!

ronnie wrote:

<quoted text> When the man has the axe over your head, you got to give in or go headless, the bad thing about what happened is how we had to dump on our retires to keep our jobs, its like a catch 22!

Dump on your retirees? One third of them should not be retirees. They should never have had jobs in the first place. If there were one third fewer retirees your pension fund would be in a lot better shape. What the hell am I talking about? In the 50s,60s,and 70s UAW job classifications were so restrictive that a lot of men only worked 4 or 5 hours per day. If the industry would have been run correctly, that is, requiring everyone to produce 8 hours of work for 8 hours of pay, the auto industry would be competitive with the transplants, Detroit would not be dieing, and the UAW pension fund would be secure. In Dept 258 Sharonville Transmission Plant I had 3 set up men who NEVER put in more than 3 hours per shift actually working. I had a calibration man who sometimes worked 45 minutes in an 8 hour shift. Now these guys are sucking off your pension fund and bitching about how unfair things are. I had burr hands that could not be found without a search party. Often they slept in makeshift beds of cardboard built over commodes in the men's room. The UAW has a lot of skeletons in their closet. If they are smart they will buckle down and actually work for the money they receive. If they don't it will be goodby auto industry, just like it was goodby steel industry, goodby coal industry, goodby railroad industry.