Ford workers reject contract changes

Ford has two options, file bankruptcy and restructure the union contracts or move to non-union locations. Hopefully Ford doesn't become another Obama-motors.

Congratulations for standing up for your rights! The UAW gave huge concessions last spring and it is time to draw a line in the sand.

There is no need to further diminish your hard earned wages when the fat cats sit in their fancy offices, do little or no real work, and collect earnings of up to 100 times that of the typical floor laborer.

Screw the crooked CEO's. Let them live in the pittance they pay the real workers in that company for a year or two before one more union member gives back one more penny.

IrishMN wrote:

Congratulations for standing up for your rights! The UAW gave huge concessions last spring and it is time to draw a line in the sand.
There is no need to further diminish your hard earned wages when the fat cats sit in their fancy offices, do little or no real work, and collect earnings of up to 100 times that of the typical floor laborer.
Screw the crooked CEO's. Let them live in the pittance they pay the real workers in that company for a year or two before one more union member gives back one more penny.

Don't forget the fat cats in the front office were the ones whose plans avoided government take over. Unions make it easier for businesses to move and cut labor costs and when they do the union can cry the blues for businesses moving.

I can only say that once again the idiots in the uaw, have shot themselves in the foot. Its no wonder unions are loing their membership left and right. The time for unions is past.

It's long past time for the Feds to seize Ford and protect these jobs from the profit-mongers. End of discussion.

IrishMN wrote:

Congratulations for standing up for your rights! The UAW gave huge concessions last spring and it is time to draw a line in the sand.
There is no need to further diminish your hard earned wages when the fat cats sit in their fancy offices, do little or no real work, and collect earnings of up to 100 times that of the typical floor laborer.
Screw the crooked CEO's. Let them live in the pittance they pay the real workers in that company for a year or two before one more union member gives back one more penny.

If the "Fat Cat's" aren't needed, why don't the workers go and build their own plant and their own company? Draw a line in the sand or shoot yourself in the foot? I'll tell you this much, there's quite a few of us fed up with union workers demands and it's gonna bite em in the but eventually. I actually go out of my way to buy non-union whenever possible. Don't think for one minute that these fools demands impact the "fat cat's", they impact the customer. I recall my last demonstration of union "quality". It was when my house was damaged in a storm and had to be re-roofed and re-sided. The roof was done by a bunch of (obviously) non union Mexican laborers and the siding was done by a single union labor worker. The roof was done in a day, flawlessly with not one nail to be found and you could even tell they had been there when they were done. The siding took 5 days and the dork not only left a mess behind, but destroyed my lawn in the process. When I'm dealing with contractors now, I tell them straight up. No union unless you have absolutely no choice and I want to know in advance.

IrishMN wrote:

Congratulations for standing up for your rights! The UAW gave huge concessions last spring and it is time to draw a line in the sand.
There is no need to further diminish your hard earned wages when the fat cats sit in their fancy offices, do little or no real work, and collect earnings of up to 100 times that of the typical floor laborer.
Screw the crooked CEO's. Let them live in the pittance they pay the real workers in that company for a year or two before one more union member gives back one more penny.

Screw the UAW. Buy a Honda and be happy.

shut ford down. the labor unions have been enriched to a great extent since obama is in office., the unions spent in excessof $200,000,000 electing Obama. these union chiefs are not being asked to forgo any pay like the car company execs. These people are overpaid and their benfits are obscene

IrishMN wrote:

Congratulations for standing up for your rights! The UAW gave huge concessions last spring and it is time to draw a line in the sand.
There is no need to further diminish your hard earned wages when the fat cats sit in their fancy offices, do little or no real work, and collect earnings of up to 100 times that of the typical floor laborer.
Screw the crooked CEO's. Let them live in the pittance they pay the real workers in that company for a year or two before one more union member gives back one more penny.

IrishMN FKA dem rethuglican and quite possibly bill salisbury the write for the st paul paper. this person continues to post yet everytime from a different city. this person is a plant in orderr to get the discussion going. It has to be for nobody is a stupid as the posts they put forth

Yep, dumb union boobs shoot themselves in the foot. It is simply mindboggling after experiencing the worst economy since the great depression. Through better management Ford managed to avoid bankruptcy and could have been positioned to leap ahead. They should have just let things go, declared bankruptcy and forced the contract changes. Most union workers are too dumb to understand anything but a 2x4 over the head.

IrishMN wrote:

Congratulations for standing up for your rights! The UAW gave huge concessions last spring and it is time to draw a line in the sand.
There is no need to further diminish your hard earned wages when the fat cats sit in their fancy offices, do little or no real work, and collect earnings of up to 100 times that of the typical floor laborer.
Screw the crooked CEO's. Let them live in the pittance they pay the real workers in that company for a year or two before one more union member gives back one more penny.

Who would have ever thought that once again IrishMN is on the wrong sise of the fence again... besides everyone!

Unions are the only thing that have killed more jobs and business's in this country than Obama and the Dems. I'll never forget my own experience with unions and my first day on the job. My Father (a damn hard working man) told me when I got the job to go in there and bust my a** and set an example. I'll never forget the look on his face when I came home and told him... I started to work hard and got told the first hour to slow down because I was making the rest of them look bad by several of them.

Unions have done nothing but make American workers the laziest and most unproductive workers in this country. Complete they're probation period and your in... and then they start collecting the dues and you can then slow your production to a crawl!

Just say goodbye to them Ford and restock with people ready and willing to go to work for the wages and benefits you offer who will do a better job... and are waiting in the wings dieing to prove it to you!

Dumbest bastaerds on earth!!!! Hope you like unemployment!!!!

One more thing Ford... thanks for not taking Obama's bait and our money. As a company... you go FORD!! Your union workers might not be... but the rest of America is behind you!!

Peter wrote:

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Screw the UAW. Buy a Honda and be happy.

WRONG! Buy a Ford... they didn't take the money! All Ford needs to do is replace it's union workers with productive people dieing to work for what they offer that won't try and kill them at contract time like they've killed so many others. How long has it been since an domestic auto company has beaten Honda and Toyota in QUALITY ratings by Consumer Report? Not sure, but Ford just did according to last months issue! SCREW HONDA AND TOYOTA... The majority of profit leaves this country!

Like everything else, there's good and bad. If there were not unions, even non-union workers would not have the benefits they have today. As union jobs and benefits go away, so do the benefits of non-union jobs. You can see it in lower wages and benefits, especially costly benefits like health insurance. Non-union workers can't stand up for themselves without losing their job, so union workers need to hold the line to keep employers from going back to the 1930's. When you were lucky to have sunday off (that was so you could go to church), and you owed your soul to the company store.

Big picture thinking always lacking with big unions. I understand the feeling that some guy making 17 million should mean that the little people shouldn't have to sacrifice. But the guy making 17 million has the power to eliminate your job. And somebody on that union line will realize that too late. As far as "might make a profit" this year, MIGHT is a bad word. I took a zero this year and my company DID make a profit. But nobody lost their job or gave back any pay. Watch this union bunch panic when jobs start to disappear.

Papa David wrote:

Like everything else, there's good and bad. If there were not unions, even non-union workers would not have the benefits they have today. As union jobs and benefits go away, so do the benefits of non-union jobs. You can see it in lower wages and benefits, especially costly benefits like health insurance. Non-union workers can't stand up for themselves without losing their job, so union workers need to hold the line to keep employers from going back to the 1930's. When you were lucky to have sunday off (that was so you could go to church), and you owed your soul to the company store.

The jobs the unions often protect are jobs that can be accomplished by unskilled laborers at a fraction of the cost overseas. Even if the unions do it better here(which doesn't happen much) the cost difference is so much the jobs keep on getting shipped overseas.

The only new autoplants built in this country in the last 20 years were to foreign manufacturers that don't use union labor and can be competitive in the global marketplace.

Unions don't protect jobs, they just insure that we ship more jobs overseas.

IrishMN wrote:

Congratulations ... it is time to draw a line in the sand.

The only lines Unions know are party lines. With this attitude they can soon add unemployment lines, soup kitchen lines, maybe even poverty lines to their repertoire.

So, delusional, what jobs are are worth protecting? You seem like you feel qualified to answer that question. The overseas jobs you talk about include lead paint in toys, chemicals in rags used to stuff animals and the list goes on. All to make $5 a day tops. If companies could not take advantage of "free trade" and ship jobs to overseas sweatshops, perhaps we wouldn't have 10% unemployment today. Maybe we sould all just be happy to work at McDonalds and Walmart.