American Axle workers: Deal to end strike likely will pass

Amen Brother, Thank God
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Why would that be HILARIOUS? They took what American Axle offered. I would suggest you take a one third pay cut. When does it stop, I need to make a living too. We all complain big oil is making profits we cannot begin to imagine, but people are quick to complain that a "union" member is making to much. How much is too much? Should minimum wage be lowered? Maybe we all should make tht same dollar amount per hour? No matter the education level you have attained. Remember by your definition that would be HILARIOUS.

Even with their lower wages, the $105,000 payment over 3 years to help "ease the transition to lower wages" amounts to an average of $35,000 per year, or nearly $17/hour. I wish someone would give me a bunch of cash to help "ease the transition" to my lower earnings due to the economy. Does anyone ever stop and think about the reason these wages had to be cut? It's because nobody can afford to buy the vehicles because they cost too much!(While I'm not Pro-Union, I do think that the upper echelon of these companies should ALSO be taking some serious pay cuts. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!)

I can't wait to see all the quality parts being produced from all these happy employees. Gotta love the Unions.

should of voted no put them out of bussiness for being greedy!!!

Scott wrote:

It would be HILARIOUS if those jokers showed up to go back to work only to find all of the doors chained shut because the owner decided to turn the table's and just lock their @$$es out and hire replacement workers, muuuuuuwaaaaah!!!

Just hold, your job is next.

With the wages (and benefits) going down there will be less who can afford as much so more wages and benefits will be cut to take up the slack. More small businesses will be cutting back on employees and even going out of business putting even more out of work. You will be seeing the ripple affect.

GM should have took their business elsewhere. Somebody other than american axle has to make parts and the employees would have ben grateful likely.

More union rhetoric. The ripple effect has already been in play. Overpaid employees making an overpriced crap product for too long and it's finally catching up. If the union shops were making comparable vehicles (with the same fuel mileage) to VW, Honda and Toyota, they wouldn't be in the bind they're in. And the foreign shops in the US pay less too.

hmmmm
I thought they were goin bankrupt or somethin,
but i guess they were really profitable
but, still closed up,let go and cut wages.
Pretty sad stuff.

Driven wrote:

More union rhetoric. The ripple effect has already been in play. Overpaid employees making an overpriced crap product for too long and it's finally catching up. If the union shops were making comparable vehicles (with the same fuel mileage) to VW, Honda and Toyota, they wouldn't be in the bind they're in. And the foreign shops in the US pay less too.

But if you were offered a job making $28.00 an hour an great benefits,you wouldn't take it, would you? Sour grapes, baby.

It only took them 3 months to figure out that there jobs were at stake!!! Way to go UAW!!!!!! Take notes union members.

Who Really --Won-- wrote:

Even with their lower wages, the $105,000 payment over 3 years to help "ease the transition to lower wages" amounts to an average of $35,000 per year, or nearly $17/hour. I wish someone would give me a bunch of cash to help "ease the transition" to my lower earnings due to the economy. Does anyone ever stop and think about the reason these wages had to be cut? It's because nobody can afford to buy the vehicles because they cost too much!(While I'm not Pro-Union, I do think that the upper echelon of these companies should ALSO be taking some serious pay cuts. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!)

I agree whole heartedly with you. Both sides should take part in the pay reduction. Very good point. To all of you UAW members that say it is "big business" that is at fault, I agree to a degree, but I also believe that the UAW is turning into a "big business" as well.

Kinda makes you wonder what the union is good for? I mean if a company like GM is losing money and needs to make cuts to stay in business the union can explain why their members need to take the cuts. But when a company like American Axle is profitable and the union can't negotiate a better package for their members? Makes you wonder who the union is really working for!

What is your problem with Unions? Unions make sure the companies act in good faith. Many people have DIED for their Unions. Did you know that? Yes, sometimes unions protect workers that are not worth their salt and that is unfortunate. Most Union employees are hard-working decent people.Paying of your Union dues provides workers with representation when companies behave in dishonest, unethical ways.I think most Union haters do so because they aren't getting a piece of the action.UNIONS RULE!!!!

cdc wrote:

should of voted no put them out of bussiness for being greedy!!!

out of bussiness, does that mean make no mores busses?
be sure you find somebody in Three Rivers to help read your contract, or maybe a foreman.

I sure wouldn't pay union dues for the union doing nothing for me. Get rid of the union - take a chance... it can't be worse. Non-union shops pay what AA just got and they get to keep more of it because of no union dues.

Driven wrote:

More union rhetoric. The ripple effect has already been in play. Overpaid employees making an overpriced crap product for too long and it's finally catching up. If the union shops were making comparable vehicles (with the same fuel mileage) to VW, Honda and Toyota, they wouldn't be in the bind they're in. And the foreign shops in the US pay less too.

When are people going to use their brains enough to realize that it's MANAGEMENT that makes the decisions on what is made, how it's made, what it's made of and who makes the parts that go into it. And the management of who made those parts the same applies. And finally the end product MANAGEMENT decides if those parts are up to MANAGEMENTS requirements and to continue using those parts or not.

Just what is so difficult about this people? Is it that all the non-union shops workers make all those final decisions(?). I think we all know they don't. Or maybe there are still some living in the illusionary world that they do.

Even the lowly "unskilled" worker knows that much. One more reason they are worth their money and all the ones that want to blame the "unskilled" workers aren't worth the money they make because they obviously can't use their brain(s) well enough to separate reality from fantasy. Living proof that at least the "unskilled" worker(s) use their brains to be able to discern reality from chosen biased fantasy.

a hole unions anyway

It is ridiculous to be paid $30.00 an hour to put a screw in a hole.

Irritated in GR wrote:

It is ridiculous to be paid $30.00 an hour to put a screw in a hole.

Maybe, but how about 3600 screws in 3600 holes in an hour, 8 hours a day 5-6 days a week? That's hard on the body after a while.