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May 5, 2008
 
your secret neighbor wrote:
Unoin Schmonion. I can't belive union workers cry about not getting enough benefits even when they get paid $12 to $32hr plus benefits. When I worked at Winn-Dixie in Fort lauderdale, we told the union NO. In Texas Krogers is a union grocery store, people get little raises 10 cent 50 cent depending on seniority, not JOB PERFERMORANCE, Winn Dixie is not-union (or did not use to be). Someone like be can come in, work all the time, 3 different departments, be on call, put in 50 60 hours a week, and go from part time to full time with $1 raise in 3 months. Wait about the others that have been there 4 years? They don't want the responsibilty and don't want to work as hard or as many hours. UNIONS S_uck... You should pay by job, and availability, and work, not by how many years. Yes if 10 years you should get a decent raise, but QUIT crying if your making $20 hr + benefits, and they don't give you everything for free, If i made $22 a hr, I could pay for my own doctor with out helath insurance, big union babies. Also crying they don't get enough for free...that why all the jobs are in China now,,,cause United States workers & unions are too greddy, thats also why the illegal immigrants can work here and get paid $6 to $12 a hr under the table, becasue unions and all associate with them are too greedy. Go on strike for a job that I qualify for, and I'd take your job & keep it I wouldn't care if they only gave me $12 hours instead of your $22. So quit crying all the Union babies.
After reading your very unintelligent post I understand why you don't make $22!!!
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May 5, 2008
 
Batch 37 Pain is Good wrote:
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Keep going down that trail and the company will only close the plant and move. The look on your faces will get about 3 minutes of coverage and life will move on. The market will only pay 50% for the labor because that is the rate on a global level.
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May 5, 2008
 
gmworkerw25yrs wrote:
I support ALL AAM workers/strikers!! And to all you grocery-bagging, clueless in-breeds...until you know what you are talking about, keep quiet!
I see how the Unions support Democrats. The Socialists are always telling those who disagree to "shut up". Whether at University or the Union workplace. Liberal Fascism does really exist. Free exchange of Ideas is not on their agenda.
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May 5, 2008
 
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>IF your boss told you that he was cutting your pay by 50% would you like it.
Beats the heck out of cutting your pay by 100% smarty pants.
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May 5, 2008
 
AAM WORKER HERE wrote:
All you people judging what we are trying to preserve for our families, has no idea what goes on behind 4 walls in a plant,ESPECIALL YOU Groceryman get a life when u work as hard as we do then come talk to us!!!!
Let's not forget OUR CEO HAS MADE MILLIONS OF PROFIT IN his pocket and WE the workers put him where he is today! SO SHUT-UP AND go back to packing your grocerys. WIN-DIXIE....LMAOOOOOOOOO
What business is it of yours or the Union to worry how much a CEO gets? That is between the people who OWN the company and the CEO. You only need to concern yourself with your own work. Don't like your compensation then start your own company or find another job. The money a company makes is the company's.

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#27
May 5, 2008
 
Painisgood - If you don't work for AAM none of this is your business,we are concerned what he makes when he wants to cut our wages 50% thats whats wrong now-days, corporate greed, You want us all to work in sweat shops ! We are concerned with our work, that why we have 'world class quality' we work hard to make sure every part we make is high quality, unlike management that doesn't care about quality only quanity.
shame on Dick Dauch ,
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May 5, 2008
 
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Painisgood - If you don't work for AAM none of this is your business,we are concerned what he makes when he wants to cut our wages 50% thats whats wrong now-days, corporate greed, You want us all to work in sweat shops ! We are concerned with our work, that why we have 'world class quality' we work hard to make sure every part we make is high quality, unlike management that doesn't care about quality only quanity.
shame on Dick Dauch ,
First point, it is my business since I have to react to the changing business environment in the United States. Your job is changing because of the economic realities of a global economy. Your job is not worth what it use to in that environment. High quality and quantity can be made overseas due to computers and robots. Your job is changing my friend and you have to change what you do for a living. Nothing is forever and your fathers job does not exist anymore. Just like buggy whips. There is no longer the need for American Manufacturing like we use to do. The price of Steel is high but you do not see domestic production today. The times are changing.
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May 5, 2008
 
Batch 37 Pain is Good wrote:
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What business is it of yours or the Union to worry how much a CEO gets? That is between the people who OWN the company and the CEO. You only need to concern yourself with your own work. Don't like your compensation then start your own company or find another job. The money a company makes is the company's.
What the CEO gets matters to THEM, fool. The workers vote on the contract, not you. You might not care what a CEO gets, but the people who work there do. They have been on strike for 2 months, largely because of the tens of millions the CEO gets. You only wish you could have a vote on what goes on in your workplace. You anti-union sell-outs just can't stand seeing people stand up for themselves.
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May 6, 2008
 
working class wrote:
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What the CEO gets matters to THEM, fool. The workers vote on the contract, not you. You might not care what a CEO gets, but the people who work there do. They have been on strike for 2 months, largely because of the tens of millions the CEO gets. You only wish you could have a vote on what goes on in your workplace. You anti-union sell-outs just can't stand seeing people stand up for themselves.
Right, Class envy is what the dems run on only. If the workers don't want the package AAM is offering then they are free to move on. It is a Progressive idea, Move ON... The company needs to continue their business and to do so will pull up stakes and move to an area where they can be productive and profitable. It is still not the workers business to worry about the Compensation package of the CEO.
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Batch 37 Pain is Good wrote:
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Right, Class envy is what the dems run on only. If the workers don't want the package AAM is offering then they are free to move on. It is a Progressive idea, Move ON... The company needs to continue their business and to do so will pull up stakes and move to an area where they can be productive and profitable. It is still not the workers business to worry about the Compensation package of the CEO.
If AAM doesn't like the strike they are free to close their doors or bring in replacements. They are not going to do either because it would end the company. They are going to have to make a deal.
If the workers are concerned with what the CEO makes then it is their business. They are the ones who vote on their contract, not you.
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May 6, 2008
 
working class wrote:
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If AAM doesn't like the strike they are free to close their doors or bring in replacements. They are not going to do either because it would end the company. They are going to have to make a deal.
If the workers are concerned with what the CEO makes then it is their business. They are the ones who vote on their contract, not you.
I guess you do not see the trees through the forest. Good luck with it.
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May 6, 2008
 
beezie50 wrote:
Painisgood - If you don't work for AAM none of this is your business,we are concerned what he makes when he wants to cut our wages 50% thats whats wrong now-days, corporate greed, You want us all to work in sweat shops ! We are concerned with our work, that why we have 'world class quality' we work hard to make sure every part we make is high quality, unlike management that doesn't care about quality only quanity.
shame on Dick Dauch ,
Hey, dingbat, it affects everyone who buys a vehicle, especially if has an AAM product in it.

Your shortsightedness is the problem, not the CEO's pay.

Cutting your pay isn't wrong, if the market won't support it, and it won't. You need to get a grasp on reality and the world of economics. You're probably one that bitches about the jobs going to Mexico or overseas, but can't figure out that they are doing the same work at a lower cost and that is what matters to consumers.

And once again, cutting your pay by 50% is better than 100%, which is what it will be if you don't get a clue.
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May 6, 2008
 
working class wrote:
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What the CEO gets matters to THEM, fool. The workers vote on the contract, not you. You might not care what a CEO gets, but the people who work there do. They have been on strike for 2 months, largely because of the tens of millions the CEO gets. You only wish you could have a vote on what goes on in your workplace. You anti-union sell-outs just can't stand seeing people stand up for themselves.
Do you have a retirement fund?

Do you have any investments in mutual funds?

I do get to vote what happens in my workplace, I own it.

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