Now is the time for a smoke-free Vallejo

Full story: Vallejo Times-Herald

Recently the American Lung Association in California released its annual "State of Tobacco Control Report" which issues grades for municipalities based on level of existing regulations to protect residents from tobacco and secondhand smoke.
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Gimme gimme gimme

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Do you include pot smokers ?
if not you are just nanny statest. You phonies always use the " gotta protect the children" card but you will kill them in the womb all day long, kinda strange!
Ronald

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I agree with Jason R. Goltiao, who purports to be the "Project Coordinator" of something called "Fighting Back Partnership of Vallejo". It is precisely because of taxpayer funded Junk Science "studies" such as this that revolutionary Government has been able to not only increase the tax burden of the hard working minority of Californians who pay taxes, but it has increased revolutionary Governmental control over "the people" to a wholly unacceptable degree as well.

Since revolutionary politicians nationalized Big Tobacco, both Big Tobacco profits and tobacco taxes collected by Government are higher than any other time in history.

Most high paid operators of organizations that lobby for even more taxes being imposed on decent non-smokers as well as on their decent tobacco smoking friends have paid their high priced Government lawyers to license themselves as "tax exempt" non "profit" organizations. That is to say, high cost taxpayer subsidized organizations.

Despite the fact that there has never been a single credible documented case of anyone ever "dying" from smoking tobacco, these rich taxpayer subsidized "non Profit" outfits make fantastic claims that "millions" are "dying" from imaginary "secondhand smoke", hoping a gullible "public" will not get wise to the scam until the operators of these scams become rich.

Isn't it interesting that most of these self-proclaimed taxpayer funded revolutionary Government sponsored "public interest" organizations are among the biggest beneficiaries of Big Tobacco money?

Isn't it also interesting to recall that, because of the total failure of revolutionary politicians' economic and social programs, thousands of convicted criminals are being released back into the community where they will continue plying their trade? Yet, revolutionary politicians seem to have no trouble coming up with plenty of hard earned taxpayer money to flood the Government licensed electronic media airways with expensive television "anti-tobacco smoker" junk science propaganda.

Ronald
Salty Dog

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No....

Now is the time for a Boom Box free Vallejo...

Now is the time for zoning enforcement...

Now is the time for building code enforcement....

Lets tackle the obvious illegal activities first.

Jesus, you nattering nannies piss me off so badly...now I need a smoke.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

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Salty Dog wrote:
No....
Now is the time for a Boom Box free Vallejo...
Now is the time for zoning enforcement...
Now is the time for building code enforcement....
Lets tackle the obvious illegal activities first.
Jesus, you nattering nannies piss me off so badly...now I need a smoke.
Salty Dog.

The revolutionaries *(now in power)* had their criminal real estate industry convince gullible poorly educated Americans that buying a Government controlled home is "an investment", rather than an expensive liability. As a result, the price of aging housing stock was bid up and the revolutionaries got rich. Unfortunately, this "taxpayer guaranteed" scheme ended with the entire world's current suffering.

Revolutionary Government's "war" against decent Americans who do not smoke tobacco - as well as those who do - is just one of the clever means the revolutionaries employ to distract attention away from the failures of the 60s era economic and social programs they suffered on the American people.

Ronald
Hugh Jass

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As a nonsmoker who is unlikely to find his way into Vallejo's parks, my only connection with this issue lies in the power of extended regulations to impact the totally parasitic "Racketeer-Influenced Corrupt Organization" that is the American tobacco industry. Of course, that assumes that I will never eat fish that have been tainted by the toxins from cigarette butts dropped on the beaches there, and that I will never come to care about someone whose life has/hasn't been impacted by exposure to SHS in those venues, or a host of other peripheral problems that may or may not arise from smoking in those areas.

I applaud the effort, though.

I have to admit I have some reservations about the intelligence of the guy, though. I poked around a bit and found this gem:

"Goltiao heads the organization’s Project ASHES, which he says stands for 'alleviating second-hand smoke exposure.'”

Somebody can't spell.
Hugh Jass

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Ronald wrote:
I agree with Jason R. Goltiao, who purports to be the "Project Coordinator" of something called "Fighting Back Partnership of Vallejo".
I see that your reading comprehension skills are inadequate to the task you have set yourself. I suggest that your content be regarded with the commensurate lack of credence.
Gringo Tonto

Vallejo, CA

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Smoke free, drug free, crime free and homeless free! Where do I sign the petition?
Ronald

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Hugh Jass wrote:
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I see that your reading comprehension skills are inadequate to the task you have set yourself. I suggest that your content be regarded with the commensurate lack of credence.
Hugh Jass.

Exactly. If we could believe anything revolutionary Government says -*(and of course we cannot)*- "millions" of sickly Americans are simply "dropping dead" because of imaginary "secondhand smoke".

Everyone knows that, since revolutionary Government seized control of Big Medicine and Government's Big Drug industries, Americans have spent more on phony Government Voodoo medical "care" than the rest of the world combined.

Even so, it's hard to believe Government has caused overtaxed Americans to become so sickly that they are dropping dead because of imaginary "secondhand smoke", unless one takes "the Haitian effect" into consideration.

Ronald
Wrong Again

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then the 20+ marijuana shops are gonna have to all go bye bye. they all allow getting high in their shops.

now is the time to rid of hoodies!!!!! bulldoze 201 maine, 135 carolina and downtown would drastically improve
Ronald

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then the 20+ marijuana shops are gonna have to all go bye bye. they all allow getting high in their shops.
now is the time to rid of hoodies!!!!! bulldoze 201 maine, 135 carolina and downtown would drastically improve
Wrong Again.

Not necessarily. Take, for example, the radical controlled city of Long Beach, home of one of the most radical of the expensive taxpayer funded Government universities in the entire California revolutionary Government university system.

Long Beach is a typical California city that has a voting majority of poor people and taxpayer supported violent Thugs. The city is among the top cities for its unemployment rate in the entire nation. The radical Long Beach revolutionary ruling class began The current anti-smoker Terror by abusing the city's decent hard working overtaxed and underrepresented taxpaying minority who smoke tobacco as a means of increasing taxes on and increasing Government control over the city's law abiding overtaxed and underrepresented more numerous non-smokers of good-will.

One would think - were revolutionary Council consistent in their application of THE LAW!-*(and, of course, they are not)* they would be just as anti pothead as they are anti decent tobacco smoker. One would be wrong were he to think that. Revolutionary Long Beach Council has expended no one knows how much hard earned taxpayer money for the purpose of "regulating" illegal Pot "dispensaries" into legality.

Source: http://goo.gl/cZ81s

Ronald
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If an old Vet or any American wants to sit down on a park bench and have a smoke I say go for it !!!

Really think about these Nanny bans because they will come down on YOU sooner or later. Do you really want Big sis Nappypolitano telling you exactly what you can and cannot do ?
Hugh Jass

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bar60 wrote:
I was wondering if someone might be able to answer a question for me... someone said you could pay Topix $20 to have a post removed, does anyone know how this works ? Thank you.
Try going to the Topix FAQs and looking for either information or a link to someone who might have some chance of fielding the question. That is, if your purpose is to seek information rather than attention.
Hugh Jass

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<quoted text>Oh my God heaven have mercy
Ah, okay. That answers that question.
Carol Denney

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Yes, please! Vallejo has beautiful parks. Having the parks smokefree would make me so much more likely to use them and be able to relax.
now what

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Carol Denney wrote:
Yes, please! Vallejo has beautiful parks. Having the parks smokefree would make me so much more likely to use them and be able to relax.
While you most likely may use the smokeless park and relax, the poor children of this State go without healthcare. As long as you get your wishes I suppose it is OK. Snark!
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bar60 wrote:
I was wondering if someone might be able to answer a question for me... someone said you could pay Topix $20 to have a post removed, does anyone know how this works ? Thank you.
bar60.

Taxpayer funded revolutionary Government control of "social" websites is much more effective means of having ideas sent "down the memory hole" *(so to speak)* Several times I posted links on a Topix thread where the subject of the debate was Homosexuality. The links I posted were links to a powerful ruling Senator's web page where he was pandering - as the politicians often do - to our friends in the Homosexual community and the lesbians.

My posts contained no vulgarity or untruths, nor did they contain any defamation of the powerful Senator. For a time nothing happened. Then, all of a sudden, all my Topix posts were deleted, whether or not they had anything to do with the subject of Homosexuality or not.

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The ONLY way to get control over the stifling government and all it's agencies is the way OUR Revolutionary forefathers did it. The "government" and ALL those who profit by it are supported by OUR Taxes, without which THEY would all be out of OUR lives forever. Don't pay ANY tax whatsoever that you can legally avoid. Do whatever it takes to be creative enough to starve these rats into submission.
Ronald

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Wanglow wrote:
The ONLY way to get control over the stifling government and all it's agencies is the way OUR Revolutionary forefathers did it. The "government" and ALL those who profit by it are supported by OUR Taxes, without which THEY would all be out of OUR lives forever. Don't pay ANY tax whatsoever that you can legally avoid. Do whatever it takes to be creative enough to starve these rats into submission.
Wanglow.

Your line of thought parallels mine. Recently we have been subjected to the sorry spectacle of revolutionary ruling class presidential candidates bragging about how much they have paid in taxes. All they have done is to feed the beast so it will have more power to more easily come after the nation's ordinary worker ("middle") class taxpaying minority who always get stuck with the bill.

Ronald
Hugh Jass

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While you most likely may use the smokeless park and relax, the poor children of this State go without healthcare. As long as you get your wishes I suppose it is OK. Snark!
Well, perhaps you can arrange redirection of the funds that would otherwise have been spent to clean up cigarette butts and packs from the parks.
now what

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Hugh Jass wrote:
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Well, perhaps you can arrange redirection of the funds that would otherwise have been spent to clean up cigarette butts and packs from the parks.
No HJ, the snark point was that the tax California smokers pay on a pack of cigarettes benefits in part children without healthcare insurance coverage. Meathead Reiner stuffed that down our throat.

By reducing smoking due to cost and other restrictions de jour, we will also reduce the monies available for "the children", which in turn will lead to further bleeding of the ordinary taxpayer, and frankly, I am fed up with bleeding heart causes.

Littering is a totally different issue. I am not a smoker and should I encounter any cig butts while relaxing in a park I will pick them up and discard them for the thoughtless butt tossers.

Now go and enjoy the rest of the day.


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