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#391
Dec 11, 2009
 
Truebuckeyefan wrote:
<quoted text>Not really. We are very, very deep at every position, all of our first rounders have been replaced without fail...you really don't know the "bottom line" my friend, we are not depending on the drafts, like it or not, we continue to have winning seasons with or without the draft and continue even after losing 2 NC in a row to attract the very best players from this country..... GO BUCKS!!!!! YOU DON'T KNOW the bottom line, you can't handled the bottom line....
No need to shorten the season. We have most up echelon teams
waiting almost a month or even more to play their next game.
We don't need to shorten the season as much as we need to
eliminate the easiest out-of-conference team on everyone's
schedule .... all they do is provide an exhibition game with
high ticket prices and an opportunity for the big schools to
run up scores that corrupt their offensive and defensive
stats.

Does Ohio State really need to play New Mexico State? Toledo?
These non-conference games typically scheduled by teams trying
to position themselves in the polls destroy the credibility
of the entire system. If you want to blame coaches and/or ADs,
start there. Meanwhile schools that attempt to test themselves
are penalized for the risk .... as in Oregon's case. Oregon
played 2 ranked teams (Utah and Boise State) in their non-con-
ference schedule. It may be easily argued that their easiest
non-conference opponent was Purdue.

It isn't surprising that a Boise State, which knocked off Oregon,
the toughest game on their easy schedule, after having months to
prepare and meeitng them in the first week of the season.
Similarly, it is no surprise that USC beat Ohio State on the
2nd week of the season. Just one question, really .... do
you think either Boise State or U.S.C. could win if they
played Oregon or Ohio State next week? I don't. And in their
guts I don't believe either Boise or U.S.C. believes it
either. Teams evolve over a season and those who pick an
easy path have an unfair advantage over those who attempt
to play the game testing themselves against the best available.

Toss out the garbage games and give us a playoff .... or
don't you believe Ohio State (#8) could beat Alabama (#1)
and then move on to play the winner of a #2 vs.#7?
Bill R

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#392
Dec 11, 2009
 
The point is simple .... with a playoff starting
with the 8 that has eliminated the pushover games
from their schedules, a national champion will
have defeated 3 teams in the top 8. Isn't that
better than the garbage system we have now?
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#393
Dec 11, 2009
 
Bill R wrote:
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No need to shorten the season. We have most up echelon teams
waiting almost a month or even more to play their next game.
We don't need to shorten the season as much as we need to
eliminate the easiest out-of-conference team on everyone's
schedule .... all they do is provide an exhibition game with
high ticket prices and an opportunity for the big schools to
run up scores that corrupt their offensive and defensive
stats.
Does Ohio State really need to play New Mexico State? Toledo?
These non-conference games typically scheduled by teams trying
to position themselves in the polls destroy the credibility
of the entire system. If you want to blame coaches and/or ADs,
start there. Meanwhile schools that attempt to test themselves
are penalized for the risk .... as in Oregon's case. Oregon
played 2 ranked teams (Utah and Boise State) in their non-con-
ference schedule. It may be easily argued that their easiest
non-conference opponent was Purdue.
It isn't surprising that a Boise State, which knocked off Oregon,
the toughest game on their easy schedule, after having months to
prepare and meeitng them in the first week of the season.
Similarly, it is no surprise that USC beat Ohio State on the
2nd week of the season. Just one question, really .... do
you think either Boise State or U.S.C. could win if they
played Oregon or Ohio State next week? I don't. And in their
guts I don't believe either Boise or U.S.C. believes it
either. Teams evolve over a season and those who pick an
easy path have an unfair advantage over those who attempt
to play the game testing themselves against the best available.
Toss out the garbage games and give us a playoff .... or
don't you believe Ohio State (#8) could beat Alabama (#1)
and then move on to play the winner of a #2 vs.#7?
You seem to forget who OSU has played occ wise these past years. We played Texas in 2005, then again in 2006 and we beat them when they were #2 in the nation. We've scheduled USC twice, then we got upcoming Miami, VaTech, OU, Tennesee...gey my drift.
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Dec 12, 2009
 
Go Ducks!
Bill R

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Dec 12, 2009
 
BUCKEYE AND NOLE wrote:
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You seem to forget who OSU has played occ wise these past years. We played Texas in 2005, then again in 2006 and we beat them when they were #2 in the nation. We've scheduled USC twice, then we got upcoming Miami, VaTech, OU, Tennesee...gey my drift.
I'm not questioning the decision to play USC, or Texas, or
the others you mention. Those that I mentioned may be
legitimately regarded as patsies for a school that regards
itself as a national powerhouse .... a nice paycheck for
the opponent offering himself for slaughter and the next-
best-thing to a bye week.

Don't get me wrong .... its not always the fault of the
perennially ranked team. Oregon was a doormat until about
1995 but since then has won about 70% of its games. Oregon
no longer gets invites from those who used to offer them
an opportunity to get a nice paycheck for a Saturday
slaughter. In short, OSU may have turned to New Mexico
State because on that particular date no one better was
available and NMS wanted the paycheck and exposure. Oregon
played Portland State last year because another school opted
out and Oregon to let it off the hook. We've been pleased
to book a Big 10 team every year in a home and home
arrangement because it assures us of a game being shown back
there, but it has also helped solve that scheduling problem.
Our problem has been that Oregon has earned the reputation
of being a tough place to play, so without a willingness on
the part of the non-conference school to schedule a home and
home agreement we tend to walk away from one year deals.
WAC schools have been willing and, as the nation has learned
in recent years, there are some very good teams in that conference.
BUCKEYE AND NOLE

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#396
Dec 13, 2009
 
Bill R wrote:
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I'm not questioning the decision to play USC, or Texas, or
the others you mention. Those that I mentioned may be
legitimately regarded as patsies for a school that regards
itself as a national powerhouse .... a nice paycheck for
the opponent offering himself for slaughter and the next-
best-thing to a bye week.
Don't get me wrong .... its not always the fault of the
perennially ranked team. Oregon was a doormat until about
1995 but since then has won about 70% of its games. Oregon
no longer gets invites from those who used to offer them
an opportunity to get a nice paycheck for a Saturday
slaughter. In short, OSU may have turned to New Mexico
State because on that particular date no one better was
available and NMS wanted the paycheck and exposure. Oregon
played Portland State last year because another school opted
out and Oregon to let it off the hook. We've been pleased
to book a Big 10 team every year in a home and home
arrangement because it assures us of a game being shown back
there, but it has also helped solve that scheduling problem.
Our problem has been that Oregon has earned the reputation
of being a tough place to play, so without a willingness on
the part of the non-conference school to schedule a home and
home agreement we tend to walk away from one year deals.
WAC schools have been willing and, as the nation has learned
in recent years, there are some very good teams in that conference.
All teams plays cupcakes. Its a given. I think OSU played a good ooc schedule this year though. Look at Navy for example they are very good this year. And referring to Oregon I was upset how they didn't get to prove themselves in 2001. Instead they put Nebraska who got hammered by Colorado to play Miami.

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#397
Dec 14, 2009
 
Bill R wrote:
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No need to shorten the season. We have most up echelon teams
waiting almost a month or even more to play their next game.
We don't need to shorten the season as much as we need to
eliminate the easiest out-of-conference team on everyone's
schedule .... all they do is provide an exhibition game with
high ticket prices and an opportunity for the big schools to
run up scores that corrupt their offensive and defensive
stats.
Does Ohio State really need to play New Mexico State? Toledo?
These non-conference games typically scheduled by teams trying
to position themselves in the polls destroy the credibility
of the entire system. If you want to blame coaches and/or ADs,
start there. Meanwhile schools that attempt to test themselves
are penalized for the risk .... as in Oregon's case. Oregon
played 2 ranked teams (Utah and Boise State) in their non-con-
ference schedule. It may be easily argued that their easiest
non-conference opponent was Purdue.
It isn't surprising that a Boise State, which knocked off Oregon,
the toughest game on their easy schedule, after having months to
prepare and meeitng them in the first week of the season.
Similarly, it is no surprise that USC beat Ohio State on the
2nd week of the season. Just one question, really .... do
you think either Boise State or U.S.C. could win if they
played Oregon or Ohio State next week? I don't. And in their
guts I don't believe either Boise or U.S.C. believes it
either. Teams evolve over a season and those who pick an
easy path have an unfair advantage over those who attempt
to play the game testing themselves against the best available.
Toss out the garbage games and give us a playoff .... or
don't you believe Ohio State (#8) could beat Alabama (#1)
and then move on to play the winner of a #2 vs.#7?
Texas, Alabama, USC, Gators, Boise, EVERYONE plays out of conference weak teams. Its all about the $$$$$$. These small schools get big bucks from the so-called elite teams every season my friend. Hey, I am with you, but the powers to be will not allow it to happen, as usual, they (schools, networks, coaches and the media)wouldn't make any $$$$$. These folks really don't care what we think. We just love the game, buy the jerseys, tickets, video games....no matter what....what do you think?

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Dec 14, 2009
 
BUCKEYE AND NOLE wrote:
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You seem to forget who OSU has played occ wise these past years. We played Texas in 2005, then again in 2006 and we beat them when they were #2 in the nation. We've scheduled USC twice, then we got upcoming Miami, VaTech, OU, Tennesee...gey my drift.
Hey B&N how are ya!!!! Looking forward to 1 Jan my friend!!! GO BUCKS!!!!!
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#399
Dec 14, 2009
 
Truebuckeyefan wrote:
<quoted text>Hey B&N how are ya!!!! Looking forward to 1 Jan my friend!!! GO BUCKS!!!!!
Hey True. I can't wait to see our Buckeyes take on the Ducks. Hope all is well with you. Today I celebrated my 28th birthday I'm glad to make it this far.
Bill R

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Dec 14, 2009
 
Truebuckeyefan wrote:
<quoted text>Texas, Alabama, USC, Gators, Boise, EVERYONE plays out of conference weak teams. Its all about the $$$$$$. These small schools get big bucks from the so-called elite teams every season my friend. Hey, I am with you, but the powers to be will not allow it to happen, as usual, they (schools, networks, coaches and the media)wouldn't make any $$$$$. These folks really don't care what we think. We just love the game, buy the jerseys, tickets, video games....no matter what....what do you think?
I am aware of the "big bucks" you are referring to and,
if you actually knew what the payouts were, you'd be
surprised and shocked to know how predatory large
schools and conferences are. Unless there is a strong
media tie-in the real numbers are usually pathetic, based
on the premise that the pushover opponent's athletic
department is in desperate need of a boost. When you
are broke a $150,000 paycheck seems like a lot when,
in fact, it is not.
Bill R

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Dec 14, 2009
 
BUCKEYE AND NOLE wrote:
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All teams plays cupcakes. Its a given. I think OSU played a good ooc schedule this year though. Look at Navy for example they are very good this year. And referring to Oregon I was upset how they didn't get to prove themselves in 2001. Instead they put Nebraska who got hammered by Colorado to play Miami.
Oregon wound up ranked #2 that year and the majority
felt as you did .... that Oregon might well have been
the genuine #1 but never was given the chance for
what were political and/or media preferences. Oregon
is a small media market .... not something the big boys
like. Sort of like how Major League baseball feels
when a Tampa Bay or Minnesota or Colorado gets into
the World Series.
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Dec 17, 2009
 
Duck in Portland wrote:
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being the 32nd defense isn't average. ASU has the 12th ranked defense and we rolled them up. Keep thinking your defensive stats mean all that.
LOL.........you have played one spread offense this year I think, you lost to purdue.
Don't even think you play well against spread offenses, you have three consecutive losses to schools who run a version of the spread. LOL.......yeah, you play real well against the spread!!! I will come back the 2nd no matter what.
Keep talkin'....The Purdue loss was due to massive turn-overs not lack of defense. The Ohio St defense is going to stuff and frustrate the Oregon offense. Ohio St plays fast and physical. I am sure that USC can attest to that as they went on a downslide after playing the Buckeyes. Oregon fans should be very weary. Keep in mind Ohio St is not playing the number #1 or #2 team, we are playing Oregon. I don't think I would put Oregon in the same league with a FLA or LSU. Oregon better spend less time figuring out which uniform they are going to wear and more time into figuring a way to keep our defensive linemen off of Massoli. The Buckeye defense will SHUT IT DOWN.

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Dec 17, 2009
 
Reese wrote:
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Keep talkin'....The Purdue loss was due to massive turn-overs not lack of defense. The Ohio St defense is going to stuff and frustrate the Oregon offense. Ohio St plays fast and physical. I am sure that USC can attest to that as they went on a downslide after playing the Buckeyes. Oregon fans should be very weary. Keep in mind Ohio St is not playing the number #1 or #2 team, we are playing Oregon. I don't think I would put Oregon in the same league with a FLA or LSU. Oregon better spend less time figuring out which uniform they are going to wear and more time into figuring a way to keep our defensive linemen off of Massoli. The Buckeye defense will SHUT IT DOWN.
To keep the Buckeye defense off Masoli the Ducks will give the ball to LaMichael James & in the 2nd half the Buckeyes will get Blounted. Ducks win this Rose Bowl by @ least 2 TD's.
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Reese wrote:
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Keep talkin'....The Purdue loss was due to massive turn-overs not lack of defense. The Ohio St defense is going to stuff and frustrate the Oregon offense. Ohio St plays fast and physical. I am sure that USC can attest to that as they went on a downslide after playing the Buckeyes. Oregon fans should be very weary. Keep in mind Ohio St is not playing the number #1 or #2 team, we are playing Oregon. I don't think I would put Oregon in the same league with a FLA or LSU. Oregon better spend less time figuring out which uniform they are going to wear and more time into figuring a way to keep our defensive linemen off of Massoli. The Buckeye defense will SHUT IT DOWN.
One of the funniest ploys is the one where Ohio State fans
actually try to convince us that U.S.C. won the game but never
recovered from the physical beating they took. Get serious.
It is genuinely sad when you try to make a loss into a win
with that "you oughta see the other guy" trash talk. Ohio
State lost and would lose again, mostly because their coach
hasn't had a new idea in a decade and has gotten away with
it because he coaches in the Big Ten.

All of this sounds familiar .... like the pre-game puffery
from Oklahoma State before last year's bowl game. But I've
seen both OSUs (Ohio State & Oklahoma State last year) and
Oklahoma State was faster. But more than that, it isn't about
raw speed, though Oregon fares well in that regard. Its
about the pace of the game that will have Ohio State sucking
wind halfway thru the 3rd quarter. Pace and speed are not
the same, but you'll find that out.
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#407
Dec 17, 2009
 
philtheduck wrote:
<quoted text> To keep the Buckeye defense off Masoli the Ducks will give the ball to LaMichael James & in the 2nd half the Buckeyes will get Blounted. Ducks win this Rose Bowl by @ least 2 TD's.
The more aggressive OSU's defense attempts to play, the
better it is for the Ducks. Such defenses overplay
their hand and overcommit.

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#408
Dec 17, 2009
 
I wonder if the game will be televised

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Dec 17, 2009
 
BigDan wrote:
I wonder if the game will be televised
Notre Dame lost to UConn & Navy and did the right thing by turning down an invitation to one of the toilet bowls. So no television for you. GO DUCKS!

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philtheduck wrote:
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Notre Dame lost to UConn & Navy and did the right thing by turning down an invitation to one of the toilet bowls. So no television for you. GO DUCKS!
You're an Oregon fan, so I won't put you down. I am sure just being a fan of Oregon is embarrassing enough.
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Dec 17, 2009
 
BigDan wrote:
I wonder if the game will be televised
You won't know unless you buy a TV and try.:}

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BigDan wrote:
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You're an Oregon fan, so I won't put you down. I am sure just being a fan of Oregon is embarrassing enough.
The fact is - ND football has been a joke for over 15yrs and they don't have the guts to play the Ducks.

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