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timmy
Youngstown, OH
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If they are worth so much and do so much then why is Ohio and the Nation in such perils ! Over paid and under worked. If you have them YOU educate them !
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Turbob174
Columbus, OH
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GW Was awsum wrote: i believe in the free market. emplouyerrs should be able to determing whut they pay. people shoving a minimum wage does employeers throats were pinko **** socialists. b HUSSAIN obamaa is a **** for limiting ceo pay.
but lets force schools to cut teacher pay. their just over paid babysitters. I am surprised I got through one whole page of comments before some idiot blamed this on the current government. I sincerely hope that you either have no children, or they do have a decent teacher. Given you lack of grammer skills, absimal spelling,and an apparent lack of a shift key on your computer, your children doen't stand a chance.
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angry reader
Spencer, OH
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scuba steve wrote: Being a teacher is a part time job.Teachers get 3 months off in the summer,a week off for Christmas,a week off for spring break,another weeks worth of government/union mandated holidays and two weeks of sick/personal days.Teachers barely work 8 months out of the year.For this paltry effort teachers start out making around $35,000/year,average over $55,000/year and can top out over six figures for teachers who worm their way into the vast education bureaucracy.Teachers need to stop acting like a bunch of greedy money grubbing slugs and shut up and just do their jobs.In case they have forgotten what that is I will refresh their memory.TEACH OUR KIDS.I have a one word answer to all the teachers who whine and moan about how rough they have it.QUIT!!! Come join the rest of us poor working stiffs out here in the real world.We have to work all year long and don't get to spend our summer days lounging by the pool. go back to watchin your movies scuba steve,obviously your job at mcdonalds is not working out for you, find a new job and stop hating on the people who teach our children
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Gahanna OH
Columbus, OH
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What about all those retired teachers who are then rehired and collect both their teacher retirement and teaching salaries at the same time? This just doesn't seem fair when so many teachers are being laid off due to these budget cuts.
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VoteNo
Columbus, OH
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geezermom wrote: "Ohio requires teachers to have a master's degree by the end of their 12th year."
SO- students get out of college, usually have to sub for a year (at 1/2 the pay of a first year teacher), THEN get a position started around $32,000. Then, in addition to re-paying college loans, they are required to earn a master's degree within 12 years. At $600 per grad hour, that's $24,000 a new teacher pays to get a master's.
I don't have a problem with young teachers rising in salary, given these realities. Who pay the grad degrees? The answer is taxpayers! They should either get the degrees first before taking the teaching job or pay themselves grad degrees while geting annual raises. Just ask all those with grad degrees, especially Ph.Ds, who work in non-secondary education, when they get their degrees before or after?
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VoteNo
Columbus, OH
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angry reader wrote: You have some nerve putting a story out there about teachers not taking pay cuts when normally your stories are about our children needing the best education possible. Decide what your view is!... have your editors or owners taken a pay cut because of the economy? I really hate how the media (including your paper) is all about searching for stories that are half-way researched and just going for shock factor, and usually I look past it, but when you are trying to create an issue against people who are working to help our children and our future, how can you justify that? How bout your owners take a pay cut along with legislators and the heads of the big businesses that support your paper and donate that money to our children's education... Hey, we taxpayers do not pay editors or owners. But we pay all those teachers!
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phyveaux
Marion, OH
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The average American worker works 5 day per week, for 52 weeks per year. This equals 260 days per year. Most American workers get two weeks of paid vacation per year, or less. This means that most American workers work at least 246 days per year. The Ohio school year is only 160 days per year. Let's throw in an additional 20 days of training/other requirements, this still leaves teachers only working 180 days per year. Teachers are thus only working about 73% as often as the average American worker. Therefore, they should expect far less money than a member other trades. You cannot work 73% as often as someone else, and expect to be compensated the same as someone else clocking in over 60 days more per year. Teachers can, and should, use those extra 60 days of leave to pursue other money-making opportunities to close the gap.
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Bob
Atlanta, GA
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Does anyone here know if teachers pay the Social Security penalty or are they part of PERS ?
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angry reader
Spencer, OH
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GW Was awsum wrote: i believe in the free market. emplouyerrs should be able to determing whut they pay. people shoving a minimum wage does employeers throats were pinko **** socialists. b HUSSAIN obamaa is a **** for limiting ceo pay.
but lets force schools to cut teacher pay. their just over paid babysitters. Obviously your teachers were overpaid babysitters, because they did not teach you a thing
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angry reader
Spencer, OH
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phyveaux wrote: The average American worker works 5 day per week, for 52 weeks per year. This equals 260 days per year. Most American workers get two weeks of paid vacation per year, or less. This means that most American workers work at least 246 days per year. The Ohio school year is only 160 days per year. Let's throw in an additional 20 days of training/other requirements, this still leaves teachers only working 180 days per year. Teachers are thus only working about 73% as often as the average American worker. Therefore, they should expect far less money than a member other trades. You cannot work 73% as often as someone else, and expect to be compensated the same as someone else clocking in over 60 days more per year. Teachers can, and should, use those extra 60 days of leave to pursue other money-making opportunities to close the gap. Does anyone putting up posts like this realize that teachers only get paid for the months that they work, they can decide to have it spread out through the year so they get paid during summer or they can go without pay during the summer, get your facts straight
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angry reader
Spencer, OH
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VoteNo wrote: <quoted text>
Hey, we taxpayers do not pay editors or owners. But we pay all those teachers! guess ya missed the point... anyway...
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bob dole
Grove City, OH
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wow.. am i the only one surprised the dispatch actually printed this? *appluads* nothing again the educators of this state...but the giant gorilla in the school funding room IS teacher compensation. sorry. does anyone have a comparison of private/parochial teacher&admin salary percentage vs public school?? i'm curious to see those numbers..
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GW Was awsum
Columbus, OH
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callin someone a p i n k o gets edited? Jeesh sheepul. It looks like the dispatch cant handle the trooth. If beeing a d student was good enoof for GW, its good enoof for me. you grammer elitist,
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GW Was awsum
Columbus, OH
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GW Was awsum
Columbus, OH
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Turbob174 wrote: <quoted text>
I am surprised I got through one whole page of comments before some idiot blamed this on the current government. I sincerely hope that you either have no children, or they do have a decent teacher. Given you lack of grammer skills, absimal spelling,and an apparent lack of a shift key on your computer, your children doen't stand a chance. Who washes the windows on your glass house?
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phyveaux
Marion, OH
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Oops! Sorry, too early in the morning. Ohio has 180 days of school instruction, so let's assume 200 working days (of course, they always take 5 days off per year for "snow" since of course it's too slippery for the teachers to drive in to work to plan/clean/grade even though the taxpayers have to drive to work) but we'll grant them the 200 to be nice. Also, since those two weeks of paid vacation are two work weeks, the average American number actually is 250 (10 days of paid vacation). So, teachers are working 80% as often, not 73%. Sorry for the error. My point still remains.
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Frustrated
Alexandria, VA
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I wonder when the administrator of Marysville's schools will do his part? For years, Marysville has petitioned to raise taxes and yet they build shcool facilities which are too small on the day they open (Creekview Middle School), complain that classrooms are over crowded (about 25 students to a room) and the administrator is making thousands of dollars each year in bonuses and perks. It really is a case of playing the fiddle while Rome burns.
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Thomas Paine
Columbus, OH
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Gahanna OH wrote: What about all those retired teachers who are then rehired and collect both their teacher retirement and teaching salaries at the same time? This just doesn't seem fair when so many teachers are being laid off due to these budget cuts. That's actually a great deal for the district and the teachers and most especially the students. The students get a veteran teacher with decades of experience to draw from. The district gets to pay a teacher with decades of experience as if they were a first year teacher making minimum salary. Finally the teacher make extra money in their retirement. Would you rather the retired teacher stay in the field making 2.5x the salary costing the district more or stay home and be non-productive getting replaced by a first year teacher that typically cannot find their butt in the dark with both hands and a flashlight?
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phyveaux
Marion, OH
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angry reader wrote: <quoted text> Does anyone putting up posts like this realize that teachers only get paid for the months that they work, they can decide to have it spread out through the year so they get paid during summer or they can go without pay during the summer, get your facts straight Uh, I understand that. The point is that teachers don't work as many days per year as average Americans, therefore they deserve to have that reflected in their pay. If person A works 10 days for you and person B works 8 days for you, who deserves to get paid more? Person A obviously. Teachers have 50 extra days per year to go get a second job, pursue another career, or do odd jobs. By working as often as the average American, they can increase their pay. The average American does not have this luxury.
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Thomas Paine
Columbus, OH
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bob dole wrote: wow..
am i the only one surprised the dispatch actually printed this?
*appluads*
nothing again the educators of this state...but the giant gorilla in the school funding room IS teacher compensation. sorry.
does anyone have a comparison of private/parochial teacher&admin salary percentage vs public school??
i'm curious to see those numbers.. Private school teachers typically make 2/3 of what a public school teacher makes and charter school teachers around half. You get what you pay for. If you want your kids getting the quality of education found in Mississippi then pay them that and you will get the results you deserve.
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