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TruthBeTold

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Nov 9, 2009
 
The ohio courts have spoken and smokers found to be at fault!!!
Which is where that fault should be!

Its about time you smokers were held accountable for your selfish actions and addictions!

Do it to yourself no one gives a rats ass...inflict your stinky nasty dangerous habit on everyone else...this is a HUGE problem!

The law has spoken as have the masses...so stay home, no one wants you!
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#1463
Nov 9, 2009
 
Sheri wrote:
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So, the child's grandmother on her father's side used this insane policy to prevent the child's mother from seeing her child. My bet is this custody battle has nothing to do with smoking and certainly does not address the child's needs. I suspect that the paternal grandmother would do anything to get revenge from the former wife of her grandson. I would like to see cases like this taken all the way to the US Supreme Court where it would have to be proven that shs presented a danger rather than an odor from smoking. It would be interesting to see shs science picked apart at the US Supreme Court level.
This story appeared on the local news here in Cincinnati (Channel 9 WCPO). They had a video interview with the mother. She said she decided not to appeal to the Supreme Court, and will abide by the ruling of the Appeals Court.

She'll get to see her son. She just can't smoke when her son is around or allow him to be exposed to the second hand smoke of others. If she does, her visitation could be revoked.

“Schip needs us”

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Nov 9, 2009
 
TruthBeTold wrote:
The ohio courts have spoken and smokers found to be at fault!!!
Which is where that fault should be!
it appears that nobody cares since no letters or fines have been issued which means nobody cared enough t report a smoker..might be because the ODH declared smoking not a violation you're a hoot

“Schip needs us”

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#1465
Nov 9, 2009
 
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“Just Say No to Smoking Bans”

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<quoted text>NO....... what its about is accountability and child endangerment!
Nice way to try and "spin" it yet again!
Everything but accepting responsibility for your actions!
I didn't deny a child the right to see her mom. The freaks at anti-smoking did that. Perhaps that angry child will grow up to be a psychopath. Separating a child from his/her mom is eugenics at its worst.

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Nov 9, 2009
 
Sez Who wrote:
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This story appeared on the local news here in Cincinnati (Channel 9 WCPO). They had a video interview with the mother. She said she decided not to appeal to the Supreme Court, and will abide by the ruling of the Appeals Court.
She'll get to see her son. She just can't smoke when her son is around or allow him to be exposed to the second hand smoke of others. If she does, her visitation could be revoked.
Yet, parental rights are restored every day for child beaters and heroin addicts.

“ I used to be indecisive”

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now I'm not so sure.

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Nov 9, 2009
 
just candid wrote:
Quote for the day,--- "Smoking is not a smart thing to do" ---
I know, Albert Einstien was such a degenerate moron . At least in your opinion.
JC, the degenerate anti-freedom troll.

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<quoted text>Jimmy...that is a great question.
The answer is....the bans will extend to the homes when the selfish continue to endanger their kids and say it is their right as a parent/guardian to do it.
So essentially, the selfish idiots who abuse their privilege of smoking, are going to ruin it for those who are respectful of others and responsible.
Its like the ones who lazily throw their butts on the ground outside the doors at work instead of using the proper receptacle causing the rule makers to eliminate smoking at the workplace!
What? You don't think that the people are mad enough as it is? Th are a lot of people PO'ed about the amount of freedoms lost already and you want to limit what they can do in their own homes? Just wait and see what happens then. Your kind play the child abuse card over every little thing. What do we end up with then? Undisciplined children and a generation in government care facilities.
TruthBeTold

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Perhaps that angry child will grow up to be a psychopath. Separating a child from his/her mom is eugenics at its worst.
Perhaps those with the selfish habit will give it a rest, and give the children a break! hmmm
TruthBeTold

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Nov 9, 2009
 
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>What? You don't think that the people are mad enough as it is? Th are a lot of people PO'ed about the amount of freedoms lost already and you want to limit what they can do in their own homes? Just wait and see what happens then. Your kind play the child abuse card over every little thing. What do we end up with then? Undisciplined children and a generation in government care facilities.
What...I suppose you believe you can do whatever you like in your home too!
Guess what, in most cities and towns you cannot invade the neighbors airspace with obnoxious odors, with yours!

If you think you can walk around in front of an open window that provides that others can see you in a state of indecency, you can be charged with indecent exposure.

If a person thinks they can participate in or deliver domestic abuse or disturbance, then they can be charged!

So if you think rules and regulations and ordinances are not important in a civil society, then I suggest moving to the Ukraine or some other such place!
TruthBeTold

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Nov 9, 2009
 
Sheri wrote:
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Yet, parental rights are restored every day for child beaters and heroin addicts.
Is this another crazy example of "two wrongs make a right"?

“Just Say No to Smoking Bans”

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<quoted text>Perhaps those with the selfish habit will give it a rest, and give the children a break! hmmm
LOL When you are able to stop parents from hitting, raping, neglecting, and killing their kids in drunken rages; come back and talk about smoking a cigarette in front of a child.

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Nov 9, 2009
 
TruthBeTold wrote:
<quoted text>Is this another crazy example of "two wrongs make a right"?
Nope, but that's one of those clever diversions from the anti-smoker "how to talk about smoking" manuals.

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Nov 9, 2009
 
Sheri wrote:
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LOL When you are able to stop parents from hitting, raping, neglecting, and killing their kids in drunken rages; come back and talk about smoking a cigarette in front of a child.
you have noticed that the antis never mention those which is real child abuse, nope, they are too busy praising mentally abusing children and the horrid use of for anti smoking agenda

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Nov 9, 2009
 
u cannot own me wrote:
<quoted text> you have noticed that the antis never mention those which is real child abuse, nope, they are too busy praising mentally abusing children and the horrid use of for anti smoking agenda
AMEN

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Nov 9, 2009
 
TruthBeTold wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps those with the selfish habit will give it a rest, and give the children a break! hmmm
that would be that great grandma who is punishing th ekid because her mom smokers if th ekid wants to be with her mom. She is holding both the kid and mom hostage to her own ignorance. That is child mental abuse
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Nov 9, 2009
 
TruthBeTold wrote:
<quoted text>You are such a f-ing child!
Grow up you addicted mental case.
Never.! Im Peter Pan.
PreachingToTheGa rbage

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Nov 9, 2009
 
TruthBeTold wrote:
The ohio courts have spoken and smokers found to be at fault!!!
Which is where that fault should be!
Its about time you smokers were held accountable for your selfish actions and addictions!
Do it to yourself no one gives a rats ass...inflict your stinky nasty dangerous habit on everyone else...this is a HUGE problem!
The law has spoken as have the masses...so stay home, no one wants you!
This is not a Democracy its a Republic.
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#1480
Nov 9, 2009
 
There's now two video clips of the mom who cannot smoke during visitation:

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/Mom-Proh...

No one is keeping her from seeing her daughter, both the original judge and the Appeals Court decided she could not smoke or allow her daughter to be exposed to second hand smoke, or risk loss of visitation. She has agreed to comply.
just candid

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Nov 9, 2009
 
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>I know, Albert Einstien was such a degenerate moron . At least in your opinion.
JC, the degenerate anti-freedom troll.
Good old Albert had to be brought in from the rain. He used to go boating on the Hudson river at his fishing camp near Amsterdam N.Y., and the locals would have to go out and get him in off the river when there was a storm. He lived in his own world, but they said he was a rather nice old chap. PS/ You "Little nothing" need to take a course in reading comprehension. Remember; Most degenerates are cigarette smokers, but that is not saying most smokers are degenerates.
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