gokeefe

Galloway, OH

#23 Jun 17, 2012
The Author wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why I said "most religions". Be thankful you didn't have baptist relatives, like I did, who even thought playing solitaire with cards was the devil's work. And there was a coalition of religious groups who fought the casino amendment tooth and nail.
I think I have made clear I play only what I feel like losing, and it's only out of discretionary money.
I think everyone has relatives who are well, "out there." I have relatives who will claim they've seen apparitions of the Blessed Virgin in their oatmeal. Basically they're ignored unless it's really important. Like life or death important.

As for gambling, I don't because of any religious restraint. Been to Vegas, played slots and blackjack. It just doesn't interest me. Neither does lottery tickets. Just seems like a waste of money to me -- I have other diversions though that does cost money. Prefer to spend my money there. Gambling or good wine? Wine. Wins hands down everytime.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#25 Jun 17, 2012
The Author wrote:
<quoted text>
The following uses the rhetorical "you", not aimed at you personally.
I guess if you go to a casino or a racino, and you don't have self-control, either because you get caught up in the excitement or you have an addictive personality with gambling, then demonizing said facility might be a good coping mechanism to help you stay out of the place, and if that's the case, then I support that.
My quibble is that others will accept that casinos or gambling are evil based on what he wrote, and my point was to say he and his son did not use a good strategy. Of course, if you are religious, most religions teach that gambling is evil, but for a lot of people they are a form of entertainment where you at least have some chance of getting some of your money back. IF you know and adhere to your limits. Some can, some can't. Learning how to play these games with an acceptable level of loss is an education, and all education costs something.
Many a child's food, medical bill payment, hobbies, etc., etc., has been lost to gambling addictions. Evil? You betcha. Not saying others can't do it but I wouldn't glorify it, either.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#26 Jun 17, 2012
Wouldn't glorify it for creating jobs, either. I got distracted. Hope it made sense.
gokeefe

Galloway, OH

#27 Jun 17, 2012
Wait what wrote:
Wouldn't glorify it for creating jobs, either. I got distracted. Hope it made sense.
Not sure if anyone is glorifying. I just see it as what it is. It is employing others. Using that type of logic, you can then "glorify" or "damn" liquor stores, gas stations for selling lotto tickets, Walmart for selling condoms, the internet because it has porn sites, etc. Pick the "evil." Many things can become addictive--gambling, booze, sex, drugs. Do we then outlaw everything because someone ultimately gets a dopamine high from it?(The trigger to most addictions...the dopamine levels in the brain...)
The Author

Grove City, OH

#28 Jun 17, 2012
Wait what wrote:
Wouldn't glorify it for creating jobs, either. I got distracted. Hope it made sense.
I understand the point you were making. I don't agree with gambling being inherently evil.
The Author

Grove City, OH

#29 Jul 29, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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From the State of PA:
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/TR/...
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The difference between a slot machi~le and a VLT may not be readily apparent simply by looking at the unit but must be examined in term of the manner in which they operate internally. VLTs often look just like slot machines in appearance. In fact,
manufacturers are very good a t making VLTs that look very similar to slot machines from the patron's point of view. I-Iowever, there is a clear difference between a slot machine in Pennsylvania and a VLT used in states such as New York or Washington. In a basic sense, that difference is realized by the co-existence of 2 factors unique to VLTs.
The first factor is the existence of a single Random Number Generator located at the central system as opposed to the Random Number Generator located at the machine level. However, this difference alone does not separatc a machine as a VLT. In some
instances newer technology has created slot machine server based systems which qualify as slot machines even though each individual unit does not have a random number generator but instead random numbers are generated individually by a server for each game.
The second and more important factor is the existence of a finite depleting prize pool. The Random Number Generator located at the central system in a VLT randomly selects a prize from a known group of winning and losing prizes. The VLT then proceeds
to show the patron through the use of spinning reels or playing cards the outcome of this randomly selected prize. This is different from a slot machine, which does not use a finite depleting prize pool. Nor does a slot machine's random number generator pick winners. Instead, a slot machine's random number generator picks symbols which correlate to an approved pay table.
For example, the most widely used analogy l"or a VI,T is that of scratch off lottery tickets. When a batch of scratch off lottery tickets is manufactured, there is a finite amount of winning and losing tickets. The tickets are then randomly distributed for sale
at vending machines and convenience stores. When a patron purchases a scratch off ticket it is not only one less ticket out in the market but the patron's outcome has already been
determined since that ticket came from a finite prize pool.
And an article in today's Dogpatch (my derogatory term for the Columbus Dispatch) said the only difference between a slot machine and a video lottery terminal is in the type of monitoring. Same machines, different monitoring.

Who really knows?

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#30 Jul 29, 2012
sidekick wrote:
I hit 3 bars and popped 3 cherries tonight.. is that considered a winner?
You're not being fair to the casino. You're a two armed bandit.
Life is Good

Delaware, OH

#31 Jul 29, 2012
Nobody is pulling you by the arm, forcing you to go to Racino. But they do give you $5 Promo every week(if you have a membership card), which we've won over $400 with.

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#32 Jul 29, 2012
Life is Good wrote:
Nobody is pulling you by the arm, forcing you to go to Racino. But they do give you $5 Promo every week(if you have a membership card), which we've won over $400 with.
I've been to many casinos including Vegas,Atlantic City, Indiana, New Mexico, etc. I've just never developed a liking for video type machines.
The Author

Grove City, OH

#33 Jul 29, 2012
Life is Good wrote:
Nobody is pulling you by the arm, forcing you to go to Racino. But they do give you $5 Promo every week(if you have a membership card), which we've won over $400 with.
Only if you spend a certain amount. We both got that for July, but only I did for August, cuz I went more than the wife.
The Author

Grove City, OH

#34 Jul 29, 2012
rowdy01 wrote:
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I've been to many casinos including Vegas,Atlantic City, Indiana, New Mexico, etc. I've just never developed a liking for video type machines.
Scioto Downs has a number of reel-type slots...3, 4, and 5 reel, in addition to the video games.

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#35 Jul 29, 2012
The Author wrote:
<quoted text>
Scioto Downs has a number of reel-type slots...3, 4, and 5 reel, in addition to the video games.
Cool! I may drop in soon. I was under the assumption they were all video slots. That's all they seem to show in their commercials.
Life is Good

Delaware, OH

#36 Jul 29, 2012
The Author wrote:
<quoted text>
Only if you spend a certain amount. We both got that for July, but only I did for August, cuz I went more than the wife.
NO NO NO, We got $5 each week(Sunday-Friday) of Promo money on our cards in July & turned it into $400.
The Author

Grove City, OH

#37 Jul 29, 2012
Life is Good wrote:
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NO NO NO, We got $5 each week(Sunday-Friday) of Promo money on our cards in July & turned it into $400.
Yeah I got that. But your first post left the impression with people that you get $5 for every week with a membership card, without mentioning that that was only for July. Since I played enough in July, I got $5 every week for August too. But if you don't play enough, that faucet gets shut off. You did note in the above post it was for July, but not in your first post. I just like to be precise.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#38 Aug 29, 2012
Anyone get stuck in the traffic yesterday?$25.00 free play on the slots sure brought out the gamblers. The promo, that was supposed to end at noon, had to be extended to midnight. Hope it was worth an all day experience of waiting in traffic and lines to get in the racino for the faithful gamblers to hit the "big one".

Didn't read anything in the article about a big payout...imagine that.

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#39 Aug 29, 2012
GlitterSucks wrote:
Anyone get stuck in the traffic yesterday?$25.00 free play on the slots sure brought out the gamblers. The promo, that was supposed to end at noon, had to be extended to midnight. Hope it was worth an all day experience of waiting in traffic and lines to get in the racino for the faithful gamblers to hit the "big one".
Didn't read anything in the article about a big payout...imagine that.
Those numbnuts probably burned 25.00 worth of gas each sitting in traffic. What a deal!

“Where did I put my tiara?”

Since: Dec 11

Columbus, OH

#40 Aug 29, 2012
rowdy01 wrote:
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Those numbnuts probably burned 25.00 worth of gas each sitting in traffic. What a deal!
I'm at work yesterday and on the radio they said avoid that area there is something going on there and ODOT is shutting down ramps, this was around noonish. Didn't affect my drive home, so off I went. Read the paper this morning...REALLY????
The Author

Grove City, OH

#41 Aug 29, 2012
The wife and I won a combined $62.34 on our $50 ($25 x 2) "free money", playing 2-cent reel machines. We went about 7 p.m. It was still busy, but not like it was earlier in the day. And the "racino" junked the "swipe your card in a kiosk" to get your money, it was already loaded when we activated our cards in the machines that we picked. Thanks to a security guard for clueing us in, we didn't have to stand in a still-long line for nothing.

Didn't hear if anyone was winning jackpots. They usually announce those when they happen, but it was so noisy, I doubt anyone could have heard. To believe that the "journalists" in this town would have the brains to ask that question is being a trifle naive.

Since: Aug 12

Hilliard, OH

#42 Aug 29, 2012
The Author wrote:
The wife and I won a combined $62.34 on our $50 ($25 x 2) "free money", playing 2-cent reel machines. We went about 7 p.m. It was still busy, but not like it was earlier in the day. And the "racino" junked the "swipe your card in a kiosk" to get your money, it was already loaded when we activated our cards in the machines that we picked. Thanks to a security guard for clueing us in, we didn't have to stand in a still-long line for nothing.
Didn't hear if anyone was winning jackpots. They usually announce those when they happen, but it was so noisy, I doubt anyone could have heard. To believe that the "journalists" in this town would have the brains to ask that question is being a trifle naive.
October 8 on the West Side will be a frigging nightmare.
The Author

Grove City, OH

#43 Aug 29, 2012
Henry Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>October 8 on the West Side will be a frigging nightmare.
Oh yeah. Just like the first day at the racino. I won't go to Hollywood for at least a week. In fact, I make it a point never to go to anyplace that's having it's first day...store, restaurant, blockbuster movie, etc. It's always too much chaos.

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