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of course not. Because the United States likes war, not peace. It likes to kill innocents; likes bloodshed. Well, you wanted a war. You were just asking for it.
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Mahmoud El-Yousseph wrote:
<<<I'm not interested in advice from someone who would say "I have one advice to you". Learn English and proper phrasing within the language before you propose to speak in a public forum.>>>
Ok mack trapper, I give it to you. I stand corrected. You English is better than mine. But who gives a rat!
I should have said,"I have an advice for you" instead, you silly cow! So you are looking for grammatical error through out my post rather than engaging with some thing that has substance.
Considering I made only on mistake, I feel very proud of my English. BTW, I can speak and write two other foreign languages. How many languages can you speak besides English? Inquiring mind wants to know!
I certainly hope you are not counting english among them.
By the way, I have no need of any language other than the one used in America - and I suggest that if you intend to stay, you should make an attempt to improve in it's usage, although you do quite well indeed.
Outside of that, please convey to your bretheren that they continue down the path they are on by their own choice - everyone is welcome in America as long as they pose no threat to others and live in peace, respecting the rights of others.
My original point, after us both going off on so many tangents, was that the good Muslim people of America need to hold themselves responsible to correct the bad in their own group. If this does not happen, reprecussions are sure to follow. Dosen't make it right, but it is the nature of humans of all religions and backgrounds. If you, as a group, do not want unecessary and unjust actions taken by others, then it is up to you to take steps to prevent it. There will always be the folks among us, willing to take unjust action against a real or imagined threat.
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Nov 9, 2009
 
Bring our troops home wrote:
<quoted text>With that mentality , we should have troops in N.Korea , Venezuela,etc
Yes we should we ar the greatest land ever and we should just take what is ours.

Now this is change we can count on.
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Martin wrote:
hey, America wanted a war with Muslims, they attacked & provoked bloody confrontation with Muslims; they got a war. If you keep slapping a rattlesnake, eventually it will bite you. you all keep talking about how terrible it is, but I say B.S. Look at all the bloodletting to mostly innocent people in Arab contries America has committed. Nobody in America ever mentions that. Yeah, it's worth mentioning.
We have plenty of amo for anyone who wants war with us and for muslims we have pig fat on all of them.

Now you want to say we started this then you do not know your own history as you are the prodict of murder, slavery and the sword and you worship the moon and a rock that fell out of the sky.

you follow the bastard son of the real faith. How does it feel to follow a sone who was tured away by his father?
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stormyggirl wrote:
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Mr. El-Yousseph,
I hope my question does not offend you or any other person, but I really hope you can answer me. Why do so many fundamentalists commit terrorist acts in the name of their religion? Please note, I did not state why do so many commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam. The reason I don't, is because perhaps the biggest terrorist act known to man kind were the Holy Wars done in the name of Catholicism, but "Christians" sort of want to forget that time period and pretend it didn't happen. It would seem to me that anyone committing an act of terror against others would NOT want to invoke the name of Allah or God because I would imagine that would be the first thing that would get you kicked out of paradise. This is an answer that I've been searching for, for a very long time. Thank you in advance.
For those of you who are curious, I am not a Muslim, I am Catholic.
Islam is not a faith of peace they have raped, emslaved and still are today in west Africa and other places all aorund the globe. They treat dogs better than women on the whole. And you treat this with kindness and blast the Christians like a good lib.

Bow down to your muslim mast Obamanation and prepair to be a slave for some muslim that beats his wife and children or runs them over in a car or has the son kill them and calls it an hornor killing for not wearing a rug over every inch of her body or stoning.

You libs make me sick with you fear you surrender to be a slave.
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Similarity's; they ALL want to be "like god" and are all equally blood guilty of trying to be "like god". Everyone that suffers at the hands of the social mental illness of religion (that's what it is folks) understands what Jesus suffered on the cross; religion and especially religious authority(s) IS the devil. To say the Muslim traitors attack on the American Army has nothing to do with religion because it feels kumbahya good is a political self delusion. Sorry General Cone, I know you mean well. All religions think they are the most important thing on earth, and will kill anyone to prove it (forever and ever if need be). Islam is just as self deluded as all the rest. There's no reason to be ashamed of being a Muslim, Catholic, or Jew, or erectile dysfunction. Be ashamed of taking it serious. We can't all be God.
Enzyte Bob wrote:
Islam and Christianity
Similarities and Differences
by James Abdul Rahim Gaudet, Rabia Mills
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Contents
Introduction
Similarities - Creation
Similarities - The Lord's Prayer compared to Surah Fatehah
Similarities - Quranic verses to the Biblical 10 Commandments
Similarities - Quranic verses to Laws of Consanguinity
Similarities - Basic Concepts
Similarities - Moral Code
Similarities - Practices
Differences - Basic Concepts
Differences - Moral Code
Differences - Practices
Similarities - Secularism
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the truth wrote:
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Islam is not a faith of peace they have raped, emslaved and still are today in west Africa and other places all aorund the globe. They treat dogs better than women on the whole. And you treat this with kindness and blast the Christians like a good lib.
How are they any worse than Talibangelical abortion-clinic bombers?
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sorry but wrote:
Muslims can't play the victim card convincingly because it is their own mosques and madrassahs that regularly condition and commission these terrorists for global action.
http://www.globalincidentmap.com/map.php
WHO doesn't know this? The moderate muslims act as if they don't know...they are afraid..
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Nov 9, 2009
 
ishpeming wrote:
I have a question? If Arabs that hate America for supporting Israel have stated emphatically, that they would stop trying to attack if America stopped supporting Israel, why doesn't America just stop supporting Israel? Stop sending Israel money, weapons,food, aid. The Arab countries have stated many times (as have anti-american organizations in those countries) that when American stops supporting Israel; they will stop trying to harm America. Why can't America stop supporting Israel? Can't America just cut Israel off the nipple? Can't America just tell Israel "hey, it's been a ride, but you're on your own now"? And if no, why not? Let the Israelis fend for themselves. That would be the quickest way to peace between United States & Arab world. Hey America, stop supporting Israel, mind your own business for a change. The arabs will then leave you alone. You leave them alone, they will leave you alone. Ahhhh....can't do it, right?
That is a very good question.. I think Obama agrees! He is not so hot on Israel! I think he is on the right track here..
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Nov 9, 2009
 
<<<Mr. El-Joseph,

I hope my question does not offend you or any other person, but I really hope you can answer me. Why do so many fundamentalists commit terrorist acts in the name of their religion? Please note, I did not state why do so many commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam. The reason I don't, is because perhaps the biggest terrorist act known to man kind were the Holy Wars done in the name of Catholicism, but "Christians" sort of want to forget that time period and pretend it didn't happen. It would seem to me that anyone committing an act of terror against others would NOT want to invoke the name of Allah or God because I would imagine that would be the first thing that would get you kicked out of paradise. This is an answer that I've been searching for, for a very long time. Thank you in advance.

For those of you who are curious, I am not a Muslim, I am Catholic.>>>

Stormy girl, you question did not offend me. In fact I checked your comments on other threads and find you genuine,

First, Please accept my sympathy for the loss of all your trust fund left by your later father. Secondly, I do share your view about president Obama broken promises.

As far as what causes radicals to resort to terrorism. I am not really sure, as I never met one. But I will venture to guess, it is out of desperation. Targeting innocent civilians is dead wrong, and I do condemn it. You have fundamentalist in every religion. People who bomb abortion clinics and assassinate doctors also use Christianity to justify their acts, The Jews have JDL, they use terror and bombing against their opponents. As far as Muslims, we have few of those. I am sure you read about it every day in the main steam media and write wings websites. No need to go into details.

That is said, I don't believe in the notion that resisting brutal foreign military occupation is terrorism. In fact it is protected by UN. Charters.
It is a moral and religious duty to defend your self, your family, and your country against invaders and occupiers. Just like we did in American during the War of Independence against the British occupations. Weather it takes place in Iraq, Afghanistan of in Palestine. Please tell me, what is the difference.

I think the posters Martin & Toledo sited many examples as to why America is hated abroad, and specially in the Arab and Muslim world.
I get sick and tired of hearing the question, " why do they hate us?"
No one seems to bother asking the hard question: What did America do wrong or have failed to do in the last 61 years.

That is my two cents. Hope my humble response answer your question.

Rebel: This Muslim observer fear only God and no one else.

Truth: What you say is the furthest from truth. You should consider changing your screen name.

Mac & Cheese: talking to you is useless. It reminds me of the Arabic expression, " like the goat that get get laid from the back; she did not enjoy it nor she has became pregnant." Pardon the expression!
the truth

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Enzyte Bob wrote:
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How are they any worse than Talibangelical abortion-clinic bombers?
You mean like the so called dr that kill babies. they are all alike and you should go hug oasma bin laden fool and stop takeing that enxyte is is not helping you by keeping the blood out of your brain to feed you one cell in it.
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Mahmoud El-Yousseph wrote:
<<<Mr. El-Joseph,
I hope my question does not offend you or any other person, but I really hope you can answer me. Why do so many fundamentalists commit terrorist acts in the name of their religion? Please note, I did not state why do so many commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam. The reason I don't, is because perhaps the biggest terrorist act known to man kind were the Holy Wars done in the name of Catholicism, but "Christians" sort of want to forget that time period and pretend it didn't happen. It would seem to me that anyone committing an act of terror against others would NOT want to invoke the name of Allah or God because I would imagine that would be the first thing that would get you kicked out of paradise. This is an answer that I've been searching for, for a very long time. Thank you in advance.
For those of you who are curious, I am not a Muslim, I am Catholic.>>>
Stormy girl, you question did not offend me. In fact I checked your comments on other threads and find you genuine,
First, Please accept my sympathy for the loss of all your trust fund left by your later father. Secondly, I do share your view about president Obama broken promises.
As far as what causes radicals to resort to terrorism. I am not really sure, as I never met one. But I will venture to guess, it is out of desperation. Targeting innocent civilians is dead wrong, and I do condemn it. You have fundamentalist in every religion. People who bomb abortion clinics and assassinate doctors also use Christianity to justify their acts, The Jews have JDL, they use terror and bombing against their opponents. As far as Muslims, we have few of those. I am sure you read about it every day in the main steam media and write wings websites. No need to go into details.
That is said, I don't believe in the notion that resisting brutal foreign military occupation is terrorism. In fact it is protected by UN. Charters.
It is a moral and religious duty to defend your self, your family, and your country against invaders and occupiers. Just like we did in American during the War of Independence against the British occupations. Weather it takes place in Iraq, Afghanistan of in Palestine. Please tell me, what is the difference.
I think the posters Martin & Toledo sited many examples as to why America is hated abroad, and specially in the Arab and Muslim world.
I get sick and tired of hearing the question, " why do they hate us?"
No one seems to bother asking the hard question: What did America do wrong or have failed to do in the last 61 years.
That is my two cents. Hope my humble response answer your question.
Rebel: This Muslim observer fear only God and no one else.
Truth: What you say is the furthest from truth. You should consider changing your screen name.
Mac & Cheese: talking to you is useless. It reminds me of the Arabic expression, " like the goat that get get laid from the back; she did not enjoy it nor she has became pregnant." Pardon the expression!
I guess I'm not really surprised that you are an expert at having sex with goats. Must be the culture and customs you are so proud of.
You still don't get it - get your act together as a people, or face the wrath of others and GOD.
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Mahmoud El-Yousseph wrote:
<<<Mr. El-Joseph,
I hope my question does not offend you or any other person, but I really hope you can answer me. Why do so many fundamentalists commit terrorist acts in the name of their religion? Please note, I did not state why do so many commit terrorist acts in the name of Islam. The reason I don't, is because perhaps the biggest terrorist act known to man kind were the Holy Wars done in the name of Catholicism, but "Christians" sort of want to forget that time period and pretend it didn't happen. It would seem to me that anyone committing an act of terror against others would NOT want to invoke the name of Allah or God because I would imagine that would be the first thing that would get you kicked out of paradise. This is an answer that I've been searching for, for a very long time. Thank you in advance.
For those of you who are curious, I am not a Muslim, I am Catholic.>>>
Stormy girl, you question did not offend me. In fact I checked your comments on other threads and find you genuine,
First, Please accept my sympathy for the loss of all your trust fund left by your later father. Secondly, I do share your view about president Obama broken promises.
As far as what causes radicals to resort to terrorism. I am not really sure, as I never met one. But I will venture to guess, it is out of desperation. Targeting innocent civilians is dead wrong, and I do condemn it. You have fundamentalist in every religion. People who bomb abortion clinics and assassinate doctors also use Christianity to justify their acts, The Jews have JDL, they use terror and bombing against their opponents. As far as Muslims, we have few of those. I am sure you read about it every day in the main steam media and write wings websites. No need to go into details.
That is said, I don't believe in the notion that resisting brutal foreign military occupation is terrorism. In fact it is protected by UN. Charters.
It is a moral and religious duty to defend your self, your family, and your country against invaders and occupiers. Just like we did in American during the War of Independence against the British occupations. Weather it takes place in Iraq, Afghanistan of in Palestine. Please tell me, what is the difference.
I think the posters Martin & Toledo sited many examples as to why America is hated abroad, and specially in the Arab and Muslim world.
I get sick and tired of hearing the question, " why do they hate us?"
No one seems to bother asking the hard question: What did America do wrong or have failed to do in the last 61 years.
That is my two cents. Hope my humble response answer your question.
Rebel: This Muslim observer fear only God and no one else.
Truth: What you say is the furthest from truth. You should consider changing your screen name.
Mac & Cheese: talking to you is useless. It reminds me of the Arabic expression, " like the goat that get get laid from the back; she did not enjoy it nor she has became pregnant." Pardon the expression!
YOU should FEAR other Muslims extremists apparently they are vicious when they are "desperate" and shoot people, that is your quote. I do not care about your "God". AND you and your countrymen are still angry about a thousand years ago?? And oh, I know why Muslims hate America, women's freedom and the freedom from religion of American society. So you and your religion and everyone else's is a PRIVATE matter keep it to yourself. funny how you sit in judgment of others and you are "religious'.....

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rebel wrote:
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YOU should FEAR other Muslims extremists apparently they are vicious when they are "desperate" and shoot people, that is your quote. I do not care about your "God". AND you and your countrymen are still angry about a thousand years ago?? And oh, I know why Muslims hate America, women's freedom and the freedom from religion of American society. So you and your religion and everyone else's is a PRIVATE matter keep it to yourself. funny how you sit in judgment of others and you are "religious'.....
My people grew up with muslims; you just read about them in some KKK newsletter. There are good and bad among them, just like there are good and bad among Christians. By and large, they want the same things Christians want AND, if anything, they are far more devout than your typical Christians. MOST Muslims are good people. The bad ones are no different than the "Christians" who bomb aboortion clinics, join the KKK or kidnap minors across state lines.
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This Fort Hood shooter was an extremist Muslim, one of the BAD ones, end of story! Why is the media and everyone making excuses for him? He should be put to death via firing squad! He got a free ride through medical school in the US Army. This coward has never even been deployed. He,like so many protected classes gets a "pass"! This guy planned this murderous event.

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Mournful wrote:
This Fort Hood shooter was an extremist Muslim, one of the BAD ones, end of story! Why is the media and everyone making excuses for him? He should be put to death via firing squad! He got a free ride through medical school in the US Army. This coward has never even been deployed. He,like so many protected classes gets a "pass"! This guy planned this murderous event.
I'm not making excuses for the guy, but life is complicated and a LOT goes on with people. He could have a mental imbalance, depression, could just be someone who never learned to reach out and socialize with others. I bet if more people reached out to him, he might not have resorted to these actions. Life is more complicated than saying he did wrong, let's execute him. Again, not making excuses for the guy, but someone like this is far more complicated than someone who robs the corner liquor store. Robbing a liquor store is an impulse that could have been prevented; blowing away 40+ people shows there's something wrong with the guy and he didn't have control over his actions.

Again, not saying the guy should be set free and not making excuses for him. Just saying this is a more complicated situation.
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I'm not making excuses for the guy, but life is complicated and a LOT goes on with people. He could have a mental imbalance, depression, could just be someone who never learned to reach out and socialize with others. I bet if more people reached out to him, he might not have resorted to these actions. Life is more complicated than saying he did wrong, let's execute him. Again, not making excuses for the guy, but someone like this is far more complicated than someone who robs the corner liquor store. Robbing a liquor store is an impulse that could have been prevented; blowing away 40+ people shows there's something wrong with the guy and he didn't have control over his actions.
Again, not saying the guy should be set free and not making excuses for him. Just saying this is a more complicated situation.
Did you feel the same for Timothy McVey? I mean, I heard he had a lot of problems with the way Waco matter was handled by the Clinton Administration. I know it was also very complicated... Do you feel he should have been given leniency?

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Did you feel the same for Timothy McVey? I mean,
Then? No.

Now? Probably.
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there mean very untrustworthy we let them in they kill us and nothing is done about it we have such a great gov to protect us lol never have trusted them never will
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You are wasting your pity on these losers. What about the scores of victims and their families? This country is caught up in the protected class syndrome! Let's stop making excuses for mass murderers.
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