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Beijing, China

Oct 26, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger

Dalai Lama losing hope for Tibet autonomy

Full story: Manawatu Evening Standard

LOSING HOPE: A senior aide says that Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama lost hope of reaching an agreement with Beijing over Tibetan autonomy under Chinese rule.

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Leonard

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you won't find a sadder story than what China has done to Tibet, China has really never had any intentions of working with the Tibetans in any kind of substantial way,

China just invaded Tibet and raped it end of story, there never was any kind of intention from Beijing to discuss anything meaningful in regards to Tibet, CCP wanted Tibet, CCP took and raped Tibet and no further discussion is warranted or welcome
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Leonard wrote:
you won't find a sadder story than what China has done to Tibet
It's your story, not others.
If he really want a 'human right' Tibet, he should done it when he lived in Tibet, and did not control Tibet as a slave holder.
Good Citizen of the world

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China wants to make use of Tibet's land, use all Tibet's rich mineral resources, divert Tibet's river towards China, make Tibet stragetic point to attack India.China wants Tibet land and massacre all the Tibetans.
Free Tibet
Tibet is not part of China
Chinese Hero

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Oct 27, 2008
 
Hey man, you are wrong!!!
why did say that? You are stupid 'cause you dont nothing? Give me any evidence!!!You media in these days can make you have four boobies or six heads!!!!
None knows the truth more clearly than we Chinese native. Everyone can feel the unity of Chinese people. Donot speak evil of us. what u feel if we induce one part to your country to depart from you?
THANK ALL

Shenzhen, China

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Oct 27, 2008
 
Good Citizen of the world wrote:
China wants to make use of Tibet's land, use all Tibet's rich mineral resources, divert Tibet's river towards China, make Tibet stragetic point to attack India.China wants Tibet land and massacre all the Tibetans.
Free Tibet
Tibet is not part of China
I am confused to see nothing concrete in your statements, all conclusions which are based on what the separists told you, isn't it?
You have to come to Tibet, see the situation and hear the Tibetans' voices for yourself.
Be a realistic and responsible person.
Trevor Swistchew

Jonesboro, AR

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Oct 27, 2008
 
Amanda wrote:
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It's your story, not others.
If he really want a 'human right' Tibet, he should done it when he lived in Tibet, and did not control Tibet as a slave holder.
Were you alive 60 years ago?was your family raped and head cut off by China ?were you a serf ?what do you know of Tibet? were you left with a infant half chinese? were you murdered by liars who went to peaceful liberation?do not talk from lie or from CCP love troll you have no love.
Trevor Swistchew

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I am confused to see nothing concrete in your statements, all conclusions which are based on what the separists told you, isn't it?
You have to come to Tibet, see the situation and hear the Tibetans' voices for yourself.
Be a realistic and responsible person.
Man with picture of Dalai Lama get in jail CCP liar China in Tibet from hate not love .CCP rule from murder.
Leonard I

La Jolla, CA

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Oct 27, 2008
 
New Dalai Lama will be born soon, Cheers!!

Since: Mar 08

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Oct 27, 2008
 
Dala is losing hope not for Tibet autonomy, but for him to return to Tibet as the god king.
Pandamonium

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Oct 27, 2008
 
China is a savage country rule by savages! Argh
lenovo

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Oct 27, 2008
 
Free T-back! Free tobed!
Road to heaven!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
By HanHong(A Tibetan singer singing in Chinese)

Since: Oct 08

Beijing, China

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Oct 27, 2008
 
Trevor Swistchew wrote:
<quoted text>Were you alive 60 years ago?was your family raped and head cut off by China ?were you a serf ?what do you know of Tibet? were you left with a infant half chinese? were you murdered by liars who went to peaceful liberation?do not talk from lie or from CCP love troll you have no love.
So,U r just told about it!
Have u been there?en?
everything is triggered by you, blind separatists
Jane

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Trevor Swistchew wrote:
<quoted text>Man with picture of Dalai Lama get in jail CCP liar China in Tibet from hate not love .CCP rule from murder.
What did the man with picture of DL say to the locals? Did he say that DL can issue ticket to heaven, but first you have to chop off the head of that evil Han woman selling clothes at the market.
Leonard

Beaverton, OR

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Oct 28, 2008
 
Amanda wrote:
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It's your story, not others.
If he really want a 'human right' Tibet, he should done it when he lived in Tibet, and did not control Tibet as a slave holder.
he had no slaves, that is just CCP propaganda in an attempt to legitimize the invasion.

Dalai Lama has won the Nobel Peace Prize and has been awarded america's highest honor and so much more---do you really think all of this would have happened if he really were the evil slave master you say he is?

try to think on your own
Leonard

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Oct 28, 2008
 
Chinese Hero wrote:
Hey man, you are wrong!!!
why did say that? You are stupid 'cause you dont nothing? Give me any evidence!!!You media in these days can make you have four boobies or six heads!!!!
None knows the truth more clearly than we Chinese native. Everyone can feel the unity of Chinese people. Donot speak evil of us. what u feel if we induce one part to your country to depart from you?
actually it is the Chinese that are the biggest dunces on this issue,

your chinese govt is totally to blame thru miseducation, propaganda, etc

you in effect are one of many victims of your own govt and you are not even aware of it
Leonard

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THANK ALL wrote:
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I am confused to see nothing concrete in your statements, all conclusions which are based on what the separists told you, isn't it?
You have to come to Tibet, see the situation and hear the Tibetans' voices for yourself.
Be a realistic and responsible person.
I have been to Tibet...and it was under Chinese martial law, chinese soldiers with automatic weapons were everywhere in Lhasa,

all things tibetan were confiscated at the border, any pic. of the Dalai Lama or Tibetan flag that was snuck in had to be given to a tibetan secretly and when it was, they were so delighted

and so much more
Leonard

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Oct 28, 2008
 
lenovo wrote:
Free T-back! Free tobed!
Road to heaven!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
By HanHong(A Tibetan singer singing in Chinese)
appears to be modern day Chinese propaganda video,
subtitle is not Tibetan

very easy to see for someone like myself who knows about the issue, woman singer doesn't look Tibetan and her name does not sound Tibetan at all, the other chinese in tibetan costumes dancing around her makes me sick

the video is made for dunces

so sad and disgusting

Since: Oct 08

Beijing, China

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Oct 28, 2008
 
Leonard wrote:
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actually it is the Chinese that are the biggest dunces on this issue,
your chinese govt is totally to blame thru miseducation, propaganda, etc
you in effect are one of many victims of your own govt and you are not even aware of it
hey,why did you blame our govt.
isnot yours bad?
I said, you sonavabirch know nothing,but your shit
casrf

Beijing, China

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Oct 28, 2008
 
You never understand china and tibet,you know nothing about china and chinese people
they love tibet,if you want know the truth, you should come to tibet and see it
Leonard wrote:
you won't find a sadder story than what China has done to Tibet, China has really never had any intentions of working with the Tibetans in any kind of substantial way,
China just invaded Tibet and raped it end of story, there never was any kind of intention from Beijing to discuss anything meaningful in regards to Tibet, CCP wanted Tibet, CCP took and raped Tibet and no further discussion is warranted or welcome
objectivity

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Oct 28, 2008
 
I think you have all missed the point. The Dalai Lama is stepping aside. On one hand, you say he wants this he wants that, but none of what you have said reflects what he wants and your own arguments against Chinese critics apply in reverse in this case. On the other hand, you say this is bad and that is bad, but the significance of this situation is much broader than the scope of your arguments. These Han Chinese living thousands of miles from Tibet and those free Tibet supporters, who don't seem to know or care how and when the movement actually began, are fighting in circles that fall far outside the reality of the situation.

China controls Tibet. They took control 50 years ago. They won't admit to having lost control in the early part of last century. They won't admit that occupying armies from England and India a few centuries threw power into question. They don't see it that way no matter what anyone says.

America supported a rebellion that failed miserably because they only wanted to upset the Chinese and never really cared see Tibet as a separate country. This did upset the Chinese and it has been the source of constant unpleasantness since that time.

China's growth and obvious power on the world stage has been hard to swallow for the western elite. However, swallow it they must. The Dalai Lama has been used by those elite to remind the Chinese that although they have the upper hand in terms of money there will always be little problems that the west will exploit to embarrass and challenge them. This has embarrassed and challenged the people in power in China, who enjoy their 10% growth per year, because they will never forget the western involvement in the failed uprising.
So the west played games with the Tibetan peoples lives. The Chinese government will never entertain the western media's portrayal of the situation in Tibet. The Dalai Lama will never have a positive influence under these circumstances. If he steps aside now it won't be because he wants to go back to Lhasa to live out his days where he was born. That seems a bit absurd to me now. It will be because whatever it is that will promote a change in the Tibetan's lives, in and out of China, will only come into fruition with him out of the picture.
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