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A family member of one of the Imperial Avenue victims says the victim and her cousin were buried on top of each other at Sowell's home.

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#62
Nov 15, 2009
 
MSSMITH wrote:
are you seriously so ignorant that you believe this a cultural. wake up. you want to judge a whole society by the conduct of a select few. don't even bother to reply on this site if you as so cold and racist that you would write something so dumb.
The below is what we use to judge your group, they are called actions.

Major Findings
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are
black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39
million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are
three times more likely.
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#63
Nov 15, 2009
 
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It's funny how YOU don't know what I do for a living so you assume that I just sit and say WE..I have been a Housing Counselor and a Financial Fitness Counselor for people of all races and backgrounds. I have helped place women and families who were living in public housing into their own homes, taught them how to budget, finance and get their credit together. I have shown women who are single, low income and average income that there is another way of living.. I am also a Gulf War Veteran who served our country. And just to let you know I grew up in an environment(public Housing)and around people who had addiction issues. So believe me I don't sit back and do nothing because I understand how it is to have nothing, overcome and be an inspiration to others.
So if you want to sit here and constantly try to bait me on what I'm doing, it might be beneficial for you and others if you take the time to volunteer your services to those who do want to get out of their situations or want help and don't know how..Find a private non-profit organization that need volunteers or make your own. But don't keep talking unless YOU have some ideas or solutions to the problems.
I am done saying what I have to say so you can bait someone else now...:)
You are part of the problem, you put a bunch of garbage on paper work and walah an unemployeed person owns a house. NOW Pitypat and I must pay the price when your sucess story fails. Whatever, I was already paying for their housing anyway.
Trista

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Nov 15, 2009
 
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You are part of the problem, you put a bunch of garbage on paper work and walah an unemployeed person owns a house. NOW Pitypat and I must pay the price when your sucess story fails. Whatever, I was already paying for their housing anyway.
Yes I'm sure you believe I'm a part of the problem since I'm Black.
If you are gonna be prejudice and racist don't be undercover about it just tell the truth. So guess what I'm Black you're White and you don't like Black people. So stop all of this blaming and pulling up statistics. You have every right not to like me or any other Black person on this earth but believe me I am not going to loose any sleep because of how you feel about me or any other minority group. If you have a problem with Black people you might want to think about moving to the North Pole.
And I'm sure you are going to church this morning singing hymns and taking communion. I don't have to judge you because God know's
your heart...and that's between You and Him..
So don't be mad at me be mad at your ancestors. Oh yeah and some of your ancestors are actually my ancestors since they raped and raped and raped my people so now I'm almost your skin color.
Oh yeah by the way I voted for Obama..LOL!
Anna

Huntsville, AL

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#65
Nov 15, 2009
 
Since Im not joining sides in a well-dragged debate such as this, I'm throwing in my two cents and getting out of here before I get a massive headache from reading all this junk. Not one gives a hoot if your paying for the mistakes of others. Mistakes of are what society and humans do best. Secondly, how the crap did the whole statistics crap came on here? Why should we judge people based on the actions of others? That goes for everybody. I guess people forgot the golden rules they taught in elementary school. And finally, must we jolt politics into everything? Blaming one group of people just makes the other look as ignorant as the other.
Now to the topic at hand, I wish the families peace for their lost love ones.
Anna

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#66
Nov 15, 2009
 
Since Im not joining sides in a well-dragged debate such as this, I'm throwing in my two cents and getting out of here before I get a massive headache from reading all this junk. Not one gives a hoot if your paying for the mistakes of others. Mistakes of are what society and humans do best. Secondly, how the crap did the whole statistics crap come on here? Why should we judge people based on the actions of others? That goes for everybody. I guess people forgot the golden rules they were taught in elementary school. And finally, must we jolt politics into everything? Blaming one group of people just makes the other look as ignorant as the other.
Now to the topic at hand, I wish the families peace for their lost love ones.
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#67
Nov 15, 2009
 
The way it is. Now you know better to blame a certain culture for their actions. They just can't help it. Do you blame the mentally retarded for having a difficult time learning and comprehending? You can't blame the inner city youth for sticking a gun on a guy or shooting up the East Side. You have to respect their culture. It's not your decision on what the Government does with your taxes to distribute to the less intelligent. Just keep taking it like a man... I do every pay-check in the sum of $1,500....
Anna

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Nov 15, 2009
 
Wolfman57 wrote:
The way it is. Now you know better to blame a certain culture for their actions. They just can't help it. Do you blame the mentally retarded for having a difficult time learning and comprehending? You can't blame the inner city youth for sticking a gun on a guy or shooting up the East Side. You have to respect their culture. It's not your decision on what the Government does with your taxes to distribute to the less intelligent. Just keep taking it like a man... I do every pay-check in the sum of $1,500....
Lol. You have a point there. An inner city kid has few options for himself/herself.Its already hard to leave and you've got three choices: sell drugs/join a gang, do nothing, or get the heck out. Although its there ultimate decision to pick up a gun,they don't have many choices. That doesn't condone what they did however.
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#69
Nov 15, 2009
 
wolfman57
hire me I'll be a tax writeoff and save you paying so much in taxes. I do windows.
da streets

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Nov 15, 2009
 
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Lol. You have a point there. An inner city kid has few options for himself/herself.Its already hard to leave and you've got three choices: sell drugs/join a gang, do nothing, or get the heck out. Although its there ultimate decision to pick up a gun,they don't have many choices. That doesn't condone what they did however.
Anna you make a good point about the culture in the inner city and the choices that life places in front of you, with the wisdom gained by this experience I hope the majority of these residents choose doing none of the things these victims did that places them in the frying pan circling over the fire, there is very little if any money to be won in a lawsuit so better study times to improve the quality of life is about the only option and only time will tell how far the victims families can rise above this behavior.
JERRY

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#71
Nov 16, 2009
 
MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILIES...... THIS MAN IS A SICK PERSON TO BE HONEST I THINK DEATH BY THE NIDDLE ISNT EVEN ENOUGH BUT THATS MY OPINION YOU CAN SAY THATS TO MUCH BUT LOOK AT WHAT HE DID DONT FEEL BAD FOR SOME ONE THAT MAY HAVE KILLED SOME ONE YOU LOVE IF HE DIDNT GET CAUGHT

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Nov 16, 2009
 
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you are am idiot, who cares this site is not about you, take your judgement and stick it in your uptight ear.
Let see "You are am idiot." Right. Stick it in my uptight ear? Now that is a first. Truth hurts, doesn't it? I am speaking from experience here. When we were looking to buy our house here in Houston, we looked at a lot of foreclosures. Of the 20 or so we looked at only one was owned by a white family. And they lost it because of medical bills. The house was in pristine condition. The others were owned by hispanics or blacks who lost it because they couldn't afford it. And they were trashed. So you tell me, I am racist because I point out the truth? I think you are the one that is uptight. Best go take a deep breath.

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Yes I'm sure you believe I'm a part of the problem since I'm Black.
If you are gonna be prejudice and racist don't be undercover about it just tell the truth. So guess what I'm Black you're White and you don't like Black people. So stop all of this blaming and pulling up statistics. You have every right not to like me or any other Black person on this earth but believe me I am not going to loose any sleep because of how you feel about me or any other minority group. If you have a problem with Black people you might want to think about moving to the North Pole.
And I'm sure you are going to church this morning singing hymns and taking communion. I don't have to judge you because God know's
your heart...and that's between You and Him..
So don't be mad at me be mad at your ancestors. Oh yeah and some of your ancestors are actually my ancestors since they raped and raped and raped my people so now I'm almost your skin color.
Oh yeah by the way I voted for Obama..LOL!
And you voted for him because he is black? ROFL. He is half white too. So when we comment about him we are not racist. And most evangelical churches do communion only once a month. I guess you must not go. I don't care if you are green, red, yellow, blue or pink. You are the racist one here. It is blacks with your attitude that cause all of the problems in your culture.
Trista

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And you voted for him because he is black? ROFL. He is half white too. So when we comment about him we are not racist. And most evangelical churches do communion only once a month. I guess you must not go. I don't care if you are green, red, yellow, blue or pink. You are the racist one here. It is blacks with your attitude that cause all of the problems in your culture.
You are too funny!! And you have made 923 comments on different posts! You need a hobby or something. Go volunteer in the inner city then you can talk all the mess you want! Stop all this running your mouth about nothing. Misery loves company but you know they have medicine for people like you...
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Even if these women put them selves in danger, this doesn't give anyone the right to murder them.
(people like you) sounds racist to me. My prayers are with these families. May GOD help and bless all of these families in their time of sorrow and those who have wrote such ignorant comments.
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#76
Nov 16, 2009
 
My feelings is that this creep should be put in a chain link cage on a main street so people can do what ever they want to him. He doesn't deserve jail or the death penalty. I am sick of paying for these sick-O's.
The relatives to these people probably didn't want to report them missing so they could continue to collect their welfare checks.

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You are too funny!! And you have made 923 comments on different posts! You need a hobby or something. Go volunteer in the inner city then you can talk all the mess you want! Stop all this running your mouth about nothing. Misery loves company but you know they have medicine for people like you...
How does her amount of posts effect you? Maybe you should do something more constructive than count posts.

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Oh yeah by the way I voted for Obama..LOL!
Count me as one who didn't vote for Obama. LOL!
please help if you can

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Nov 16, 2009
 
Missing Persons Report: PLEASE FORWARD THIS:
My brother Robert (Gus) Newcomb disappeared last night 11-15-09 during the 4th quarter at Fed-Ex Field in Landover, Maryland. He was wearing a Broncos sweat shirt and grey jeans. He left his seat to go use the restroom and has not been seen or heard from since.  His vehicle is still parked on Jerrico Street but he cannot be located. He was seated in section 215 row 20 seats 39 & 40. Anyone with any information or who may have seen him after the game please contact me via this comment thread. We've already checked with the police and the hospitals in Prince George County Maryland as well as Landover Maryland and surrounding Counties. I am hoping that by circulating this that someone somewhere may have some information that can help us locate him!
please help if you can

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Nov 16, 2009
 
P.S. I posted that for a friend who is beside herself with worry.

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Trista wrote:
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You are too funny!! And you have made 923 comments on different posts! You need a hobby or something. Go volunteer in the inner city then you can talk all the mess you want! Stop all this running your mouth about nothing. Misery loves company but you know they have medicine for people like you...
ROFL. Now you are the funny one. Who cares how many posts? I sure don't. And I don't need a hobby. I am busy enough with work and my family. Just happen to have internet access here at work and the ability to use it. And I am a fast typist. Doesn't take much time to type retorts to the likes of you. How about you get a job? I don't need to volunteer in the inner city. I choose to live. If you want to, you go right ahead. Earn your welfare check.
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