School board rescinds intelligent design policy

Full story: KOB.com Eyewitness News 4 - New Mexico

The Rio Rancho school board has dissolved a policy allowing alternative theories of evolution to be discussed in public school science classes.
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The Dude

London, UK

#303 Apr 3, 2008
"Is the so-called debate really about the truth one way or another of evolution?

Or is it about defending Christian orthodoxy at any cost?"

The bottom one. It's never been a scientific debate. The fundies have never cared about the science one way or the other. They just wanna turn everyone in the world into Christians. And they want it to be their particular brand of Christianity.
Stop The Insanity

Havertown, PA

#304 Apr 3, 2008
Bud wrote:
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Well he's buttered his bread, now he has to sleep in it.
LOL

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#305 Apr 3, 2008
Recordo wrote:
<quoted text>If you haven't got a sense of humor to go along with that clump of algae you mistake for bathroom mirror intelligence, you're missing the show and watching the commercials.
Taking yourself too seriously has its consequences and one of them is being public about your thoughts and fielding criticism or, God forbid, sarcasm. It's one thing to wish you were Superman and another to spend your life avoiding Kryptonite.
How can I put it so I won't offend your fragile ego... I guess I can't. So if you can't stand the heat, get out of the oven.
Look, dude, I appreciate humor as well as the next guy.

But posting the SAME STUPID DRIVEL 10 or 20 times in a row is just lame.

It wasn't all that funny the FIRST time you spammed it.

It was CERTAINLY not funny the 20th time you did.

That was all I was trying to say-- it ain't got nothing to do with MY ego.

I was just pointing out how STUPID you appeared by re-posting the EXACT SAME THING OVER AND OVER.

And now this?

Stupid-is as stupid-does, I guess.

Some people simply cannot learn.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#306 Apr 3, 2008
Recordo wrote:
Is the so-called debate really about the truth one way or another of evolution?
Or is it about defending Christian orthodoxy at any cost? In other words,(Bob) ownership.
Be cynical: ultimately, who stands to gain the most out of fighting for a place on the school board and deciding what is "right or wrong" for their children, therefore our children... and is grass roots populism enough of a meter bar to set the standard for the rest of the academy?
While you argue over grammar and punctuation the water levels are rising, the levees are rotting and fewer and fewer of our children are graduating from high school. And those that do can't spell or recall anything from the History Channel.
Intelligent Design is another coffin nail in a war favoring ignorance that is being fought on balance sheets and showing up in the media as a crusade.
Now THAT is a comment worth reading.

Something of Substance.

Or, can I expect to see the EXACT SAME THING on multiple threads again? <eyeroll>

“Question everything.”

Since: Jan 07

Lookingglass Land

#307 Apr 5, 2008
Stop The Insanity wrote:
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Grab the bull by the hands!
You're barking down the wrong tree!
Button your seat belts!
Wait.......... this isn't the mixed metaphor thread.........
Those aren't mixed metaphors; they are just silly versions of old sayings.

“Question everything.”

Since: Jan 07

Lookingglass Land

#308 Apr 5, 2008
Bud wrote:
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Well he's buttered his bread, now he has to sleep in it.
Now that's a good mixed metaphor. lol
Stop The Insanity

Havertown, PA

#309 Apr 5, 2008
Abbey Yoyo wrote:
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Those aren't mixed metaphors; they are just silly versions of old sayings.
I couldn't remember the term for a botched metaphor so I was using a bit of poetic license. Not too many grammarians on this thread.........

Since: Mar 08

Santa Fe, NM

#310 Apr 5, 2008
The Dude wrote:
It's never been a scientific debate. The fundies have never cared about the science one way or the other. They just wanna turn everyone in the world into Christians. And they want it to be their particular brand of Christianity.
Too right, Mate! The fundies want to have their supernatural religious myths taught as science.
Ralph

United States

#311 Apr 5, 2008
Given the right leanings of the incoming superintendent of schools, it may be back in. Keep an eye on him.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#312 Apr 5, 2008
Rush Limpblob wrote:
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Too right, Mate! The fundies want to have their supernatural religious myths taught as science.
As science, or rather in place OF science.

They want the whole ball'o'wax.
Thor

Albuquerque, NM

#313 May 27, 2012
rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that Godís loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth."

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#314 May 29, 2012
Ossuary wrote:
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No, this is a triumph for God:
"We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as 'one theory among others' is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among Godís good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that Godís loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth."
"An Open Letter Concerning Religion and Science"
http://www.butler.edu/clergyproject/religion_...
Pure and total smelly bull. You religious zealots have forced us to lower educational standards for almost a decade and all it's done is destroyed our economy and eradicated our contributions to science, making us a laughing stock. Go to your church, pray your life away, and leave reality to people who live in it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#315 May 29, 2012
Thor wrote:
rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that Godís loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth."
A plan that involved tricking a couple of humans into doing something that they didn't know was wrong and then condemning all their offspring just because of that? Nice plan, I hope he never leads a military strike ... though that would explain why it took so long for us to win three wars, and why it took so long to get on deranged and idiotic psycho hiding in mountains, and why those other wars are still going on.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#316 May 29, 2012
Not the best form to dig up ancient threads, where everyone has moved on long ago and no one is monitoring them. Just clogs up the Evolution Debate board, doesn't it?:)

“Transitional Molecular Fossils”

Since: Dec 06

Somewhere in Penn's Woods

#317 May 29, 2012
Gillette wrote:
Not the best form to dig up ancient threads, where everyone has moved on long ago and no one is monitoring them. Just clogs up the Evolution Debate board, doesn't it?:)
Not to mention jumping into a five year old thread and attacking someone whom is no longer around to defend himself. Don't bother to read past the first three posts to attain an understanding of the point he was trying to make. He was an amazing and brilliant man that was respected and loved by ALL in the evolution forum, atheist and theist alike. We were all fortunate that he posted here the last several months of his life.

Ossuary wrote:
Let me be absolutely clear on this: SCIENCE SAYS NOTHING ABOUT RELIGION. Science does not even address religion, since it is beyond the natural world, and that is the sole domain within which "science" operates. Our children are on a very steep learning-curve from Day 1, and we need to present topics with much more clarity than we achieve today, if we're ever going to get back in the top tier worldwide. We simply +cannot+ muddy the waters by mixing up the measurable with the fantastic. Never mind what the law says about separation of church and state; this is about the separation of science from religion. By all means teach faith-based topics, if you can convince the Supreme Court to allow it; I know of no scientist who would stand in your way. It's when you want to use science as a Trojan Horse, a way of getting religion back into the curriculum +BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE+ that you run into trouble. Of course, when I say 'you', I'm not addressing you personally, so please don't take this as a personal slight.

Ossuary wrote:
You misconstrue the situation. Teach science in the science classroom, teach religion in the religion classroom. If that religion classroom is in a publicly-funded school, then you are required to teach it as a comparative study, rather than favoring one particular variant. If you have to sneak religion into the school curriculum by pretending it's science, as a way of subverting the law, then you are "bearing false witness." Many, many, many scientists in this country are also Christians: "Evolution =/= Atheism".

Miss you old wise one, you were never just the "old bag of bones" as you often stated in your self-deprecating manner. Rest in peace my friend.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#318 May 30, 2012
Yes, Ossuary was one of the great ones. Always kind, even as he spoke the eviscerating truth to these folks. :)

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#319 May 30, 2012
Rick wrote:
What a sad day for our schools. Darwins 'theory' of evolution won out over truth.Scientists have been scrambling to prove this theory for years and have found nothing to prove any of it but now you will teach this stupidity to our kids.Shame on you.
How's that homeschoolin' going? Have your kids learned about evil atoms yet?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#320 May 30, 2012
Gillette wrote:
Not the best form to dig up ancient threads, where everyone has moved on long ago and no one is monitoring them. Just clogs up the Evolution Debate board, doesn't it?:)
I fail to see your point.

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