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Winston Smith

Hampton, VA

#155941 Aug 22, 2012
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>You are not really from Chicago are you? Let me guess you think Taco Bell is real Mexican food right?
Nowt like fine dining in the swill factories is there?
Bazooka Joe

Monrovia, CA

#155942 Aug 22, 2012
It's always nice to say, whooa willy, first.
Bazooka Joe

Monrovia, CA

#155944 Aug 22, 2012
You'll always get what you need with Bazooka Joe.
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#155945 Aug 22, 2012
Prof Dingleberry wrote:
<quoted text>
Only creepy sickos express obsessions over other people's sexual activities. You're one sick, fat assed bastard Gary.
Winnie called me "velvet lips" and suggested my "panties" were wadded all up in my a**! Yell at him too. I dunno if he's fat.

YUK!YUK!YUK!

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Atlanta, GA

#155947 Aug 22, 2012
Prof Dingleberry wrote:
<quoted text>
OMGosh! That gets funnier everytime you repeat it. Not.
Stupid shill.
<quoted text>
Gary, the nonsense in massresistance isn't "evidence" of anything other than prejudice and hate.
<quoted text>
Oooh, this should be fun everyone. Gary will be taking us on a journey, page by page of a book he previously stated sickened him. Odd that if it sickens him he quotes it nearly everyday! I sure do hope that he'll be pointing out where the GSLEN is noted as a supporter of the book!!! Let's not hold our breath though!!!
Carry on shill!
<quoted text>
Yes Gary. We gays do that alot. I'm almost 50, but my husband and I are still referred to as "the boys" by most of our friends. Sorry, but your "evidence" doesn't exist here dipshit.
<quoted text>
Awesome. Given that the intended readership for your beloved Little Black Book includes 18 to 22 year olds, the inclusion of the Bagley Gay Youth Alliance Club seems totally appropos.
So, will your "evidence" that the book was secretly intended for children be coming anytime soon Gary?
See...?

The totality of this idiot's rebuttal was "People refer to me and my husband as "boys" all the time."

Ergo, The Little Black Book was intended for young adults OVER 18.

And the fact that the term "youth" is used time and again to refer to the readership -- I know: "People refer to me and my husband as "youth" all the time too (even though you're 50)

Very important lesson here: You can't win a debate with an idiot.

“Just keeping it real”

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#155948 Aug 22, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
5. Speaking of the doctor cartoon character the editors so cleverly name "Dr. Dick" -- he's a 1930s public domain cartoon character used in high school health education texts of that era . His purpose back then is the same purpose the editors of the The Little Black Book had in mind -- to grab the interest of children.
If you and massresistance say so Gary! Boy, you must have had a great time typing out this post!!

So, about htat evidence you were talking about, will you be providing it anytime soon? I'd like to turn your "evidence" over to authorities so we can make sure all those that commited a crime against minors are dealt with accordingly. While I appreciate your efforts to type out your beloved Little Black Book, honestly I've already read it, and there's not much in it for me sicko.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
6. Peer Action ad. Peer Action is another man-boy hook-up club for underage boys. The number is in the booklet; call them up and ask them.
Gary, I'm not a fat assed pedophile like you, I have no interest in calling these folks. Honestly, if what you are saying is true, it would seem very unChristian of you that you haven't turned over this information to the local authorities so that they could protect the children you keep referring to. Why haven't you done that Gary?
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
7. The booklet was handed out at high school youth conferences.
No Gary, it wasn't. That's just a lie that you and massresistance try and convince people of. We've already been over this. Is your actual "evidence" coming anytime soon you perverted pedophile bastard?
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
8. The booklet was handed out to every boy -- as young as 14!-- who entered the "Youth on Fire" drop-in center for runaways.
I'm not familiar with them like you are. Please present evidence of this.(pssst - the massresistance website is not evidence, nor is stating that "you called").
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
9. The book introduces the ritual of "coming out" and explains what it means and the best way to do it.
And? People come out at all different ages you moron!!

Will your "evidence" be forthcoming?
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
There's more but I'll stop here.
Oh look everyone. Gary must have shot is wad at this point. He's too tired to quote some more from his beloved Black Book.

Hey numbnuts, you can't provide NOTHING and then state there "is more". That makes you sound stupider than you usually do.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Bottom line, the reason why the booklet was taken out of circulation was because its editors knew there was no way anyone with a brain would believe it WASN'T intended for under-age boys.
I wasn't aware it was no longer in circulation. That's great to know. It demonstrates even further what a complete tool you are for wasting days of posts for nothing.

Oh, and um, actually, someone with a brain would be able to produce actual evidence to support themselves.

Hey Gary, we're all still waiting for you to point out where in your beloved Little Black Wank It Booklet that the GSLEN is credited. Why such a chicken shit coward Gary?
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Or maybe you'd like to explain why they stopped handing it out?
Don't know and don't care. You're the only one obsessed with this booklet Gary. Not me or anyone else.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
I won't hold my breath.
No one cares what you do you cowardly fat assed bastard.

Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#155949 Aug 22, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
You really haven't been paying attention much in here have you? Gary Lloyd is your favorite little buddy in here, aka Prof Marvel. You don't really need to feign ignorance either, it shines through in each post you make.
If you really want me to hold the sex talk you need to speak to Gary first, along with some of your other overly obsessed e-friends. They seem to be fixated on the bedroom activities of total strangers. Quite telling, don't you think?
I don't read much of Prof Marvel's posts or that dingleberry guy who's obsessed with him. Too off topic, obsessive, long and boring. You'll have to provide a post number where I defended him, I don't remember doing that. Maybe I was just reacting to that Prof Dingleberry whacko and you interpreted it as defending Prof Marvel?

Whatever. Glad it made you angry. Of course I have no way of controlling other posters as you so strangely request. So, no.

“Just keeping it real”

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#155950 Aug 22, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
"Youth" means underage.
Not always Gary. Sorry, but you don't get to just make up meanings of words to try and support your stupidity and pedophilac obsessions.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Young adult means over 18.
Ditto above.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
You know this, anyone with a brain knows this, but in order to protect the pedo predators who published and distributed this kiddie porn recrutment tract you would have us believe the word "youth" now only means young adults over 18.
I've done nothing of the sort. All I've done is point out your lies and stupidity. It's really all I ever do here doofus.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you no shame, Dingleberry?
Not over this issue twit. Personally I would think YOU should have some shame for wasting so much time on a book you now inform us isn't even in publication anymore. Seriously dude, talk about obsessed. You're sick.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't there a limit to the lengths you'll go to help pedo predators gain unfettered access to underage boys?
Um, who exactly did I help do this? when? How?

Speaking of limits. Isn't there a limit to how long you'll cowardly ignore responding to your lies? We're all still waiting Gary. I mean, come on, you nearly re-typed the entire little booklet, but you couldn't just take time out to type out the part where you claim the GLSEN was involved with the booklet? Why such a chicken shit coward Gary?

What a total fucktard you are!

“Just keeping it real”

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#155951 Aug 22, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
If you really want me to hold the sex talk you need to speak to Gary first, along with some of your other overly obsessed e-friends. They seem to be fixated on the bedroom activities of total strangers. Quite telling, don't you think?
Seriously. It's both sick and creepy. Especially with pedophile Gary.

“Just keeping it real”

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#155952 Aug 22, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
See...?
The totality of this idiot's rebuttal was "People refer to me and my husband as "boys" all the time."
No Gary, that was NOT the totality of my rebuttal. The totality of my rebuttal was addressing each individual point of your drawn out repititious diatribe in order to repeatedly demonstrate what a complete moron you are.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Ergo, The Little Black Book was intended for young adults OVER 18.
You really should learn how to use "therefore", "ergo" and words like them properly. Based on your posts its obvious you don't currently know how to use them. These type of words require preceding examples that make a conclusion that stands on its own, not that is totally created out of thin air like you do Gary. Real authors would know this Gary. But then, we all know you're not really an author don't we shill?

What a shame your such a incompetent clod.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
And the fact that the term "youth" is used time and again to refer to the readership -- I know: "People refer to me and my husband as "youth" all the time too (even though you're 50)
Nope, they sure don't. Gary, you can barely speak for yourself, please don't burn your limited brain cells attempting to speak for me. It's both rude and insulting given what a moron you are.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Very important lesson here: You can't win a debate with an idiot.
Are you under the impression that we have been engaged in a debate?!! Damn, you never cease to amaze me by continually demonstrating you are dumber that I could have imagined.

Now run along Gary. I'm sure that penis suit in your closet is feeling lonely again. You should go wrap yourself up in it take it out for a walk around your neighborhood.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#155953 Aug 22, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
<quoted text>
tell me again how you are NOT a hate filled angry bully...
Tell me again how you went to law school.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#155954 Aug 22, 2012
marcy q wrote:
<quoted text>
"Mona Lott" is nothing but cyber-trash. A slob that frequents various threads and forums, spewing garbage and nonsense. Lott's upbringing and station in life has a lot to do with the way the pig is.
A failed human being, that's what Mona Lott is.
ASSume away, Miss Thing. You know nothing about me. You may wish to check out this article:

http://abovethelaw.com/2012/04/texas-couple-w...
Jane Dough

Montpelier, VT

#155955 Aug 22, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me again how you went to law school.
meow.
Reality

Madison, WI

#155956 Aug 22, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL 50 out of 53 framers of the Constitution were Christian, why don't you tell them? Also the Consitution was made based on NATURAL LAW, which had even existed in Roman & Saxon legal system, before it was taken over by queers & fell from corruption from within.
Are you stuck on stupid? Damn morons..........

treaty of Tripoli

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Common Law

According to the Constitution's 7th Amendment: "In suits at common law... the right of trial by jury shall be preserved; and no fact, tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States than according to the rules of the common law."

Here, many Christians believe that common law came from Christian foundations and therefore the Constitution derives from it. They use various quotes from Supreme Court Justices proclaiming that Christianity came as part of the laws of England, and therefore from its common law heritage.

But one of our principle Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, elaborated about the history of common law in his letter to Thomas Cooper on February 10, 1814:

"For we know that the common law is that system of law which was introduced by the Saxons on their settlement in England, and altered from time to time by proper legislative authority from that time to the date of Magna Charta, which terminates the period of the common law... This settlement took place about the middle of the fifth century. But Christianity was not introduced till the seventh century; the conversion of the first christian king of the Heptarchy having taken place about the year 598, and that of the last about 686. Here then, was a space of two hundred years, during which the common law was in existence, and Christianity no part of it."

"... if any one chooses to build a doctrine on any law of that period, supposed to have been lost, it is incumbent on him to prove it to have existed, and what were its contents. These were so far alterations of the common law, and became themselves a part of it. But none of these adopt Christianity as a part of the common law. If, therefore, from the settlement of the Saxons to the introduction of Christianity among them, that system of religion could not be a part of the common law, because they were not yet Christians, and if, having their laws from that period to the close of the common law, we are all able to find among them no such act of adoption, we may safely affirm (though contradicted by all the judges and writers on earth) that Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#155957 Aug 22, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL 50 out of 53 framers of the Constitution were Christian, why don't you tell them? Also the Consitution was made based on NATURAL LAW, which had even existed in Roman & Saxon legal system, before it was taken over by queers & fell from corruption from within.
...yawn...
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#155958 Aug 22, 2012
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>Are you stuck on stupid? Damn morons..........
treaty of Tripoli
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
Common Law
According to the Constitution's 7th Amendment: "In suits at common law... the right of trial by jury shall be preserved; and no fact, tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States than according to the rules of the common law."
Here, many Christians believe that common law came from Christian foundations and therefore the Constitution derives from it. They use various quotes from Supreme Court Justices proclaiming that Christianity came as part of the laws of England, and therefore from its common law heritage.
But one of our principle Founding Fathers, Thomas Jefferson, elaborated about the history of common law in his letter to Thomas Cooper on February 10, 1814:
"For we know that the common law is that system of law which was introduced by the Saxons on their settlement in England, and altered from time to time by proper legislative authority from that time to the date of Magna Charta, which terminates the period of the common law... This settlement took place about the middle of the fifth century. But Christianity was not introduced till the seventh century; the conversion of the first christian king of the Heptarchy having taken place about the year 598, and that of the last about 686. Here then, was a space of two hundred years, during which the common law was in existence, and Christianity no part of it."
"... if any one chooses to build a doctrine on any law of that period, supposed to have been lost, it is incumbent on him to prove it to have existed, and what were its contents. These were so far alterations of the common law, and became themselves a part of it. But none of these adopt Christianity as a part of the common law. If, therefore, from the settlement of the Saxons to the introduction of Christianity among them, that system of religion could not be a part of the common law, because they were not yet Christians, and if, having their laws from that period to the close of the common law, we are all able to find among them no such act of adoption, we may safely affirm (though contradicted by all the judges and writers on earth) that Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
He isn't going to believe you. He is indeed stuck on stupid.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#155959 Aug 22, 2012
Jane Dough wrote:
<quoted text>
meow.
Is that your best Andrew Shirvell imitation?
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#155960 Aug 22, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL 50 out of 53 framers of the Constitution were Christian, why don't you tell them? Also the Consitution was made based on NATURAL LAW, which had even existed in Roman & Saxon legal system, before it was taken over by queers & fell from corruption from within.
RiccardoFire.

You are right. Following the revolution, the revolutionary political ruling class *(now in power)* changed the underlying fundamental tenet of American jurisprudence from equal justice under the Law into one where the political motive of those who commit the act is the determinant factor that is used to judge culpability. One of the best examples of this is that Obama's pal Holder heads the now politicized revolutionary era capricious "justice" system.

Ronald 155927 Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

thisGuy.

It is unnecessary to state the obvious truth that all of the founding documents of the American nation expressed belief in, and fidelity to, the Christian God. Only through the use of the most clever of convoluted argumentation can the Godless revolutionary "Liberals" deny that simple truth.

The fact is that all the preambles to our State Constitutions also declare a deep and abiding faith in God as their authorities. The Godless "Liberals" *(now in power)* would have us believe otherwise. They would say that because the Constitution and the State Constitutions do not specifically give advantage to the Christian over rights granted the ignorant Godless secularist, that means those governing documents are not Christian documents. Nothing could be farther from the truth. In fact equal treatment under the law is a fundamental precept of Christian Law:

"Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God." (Leviticus 24:22)

As Solomon observed long ago, there is nothing new under the sun. As if to emphasize the truth of his observation, the Bible might just as well have been speaking of the Godless secularist termites who came to power during the revolution, and thereafter acted to destroy Christian civilization as well as debauching our womenfolk:

"For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ." (Jude 1:4)

"I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not." (Jude 1:5)

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.(Jude 1:6)

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." (Jude 1:7)

"Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities." (Jude 1:8)

"Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee." (Jude 1:9)

"But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves." (Jude 1:10)

"Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core." (Jude 1:11)

Source: http://tinyurl.com/3b3mwxg

Ronald

“Just keeping it real”

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#155961 Aug 22, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL 50 out of 53 framers of the Constitution were Christian, why don't you tell them?
14 of the 15 people in my office are Christians. That doesn't make my company a Christian Company. The majority of my neighbors are Christian, that doesn't make my neighborhood a Christian neighborhood. Seriously, did you actually think that was an argument?
thisGuy wrote:
<quoted text>
Also the Consitution was made based on NATURAL LAW, which had even existed in Roman & Saxon legal system, before it was taken over by queers & fell from corruption from within.
Um, Nature isn't a god. Dang, where do you people come up with this stuff?

"As the Government of the United States of America is NOT, IN ANY SENSE, FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
- The Treaty of Tripoli
-signed and drafted under the administration of George Washington
-ratified and signed under the administration of John Adams
June 10, 1797


This treaty demonstrates that our Founding Fathersw intentionally established a government divorced of ANY religion. This treaty was written in order to explicity reveal to other countries our SECULAR nature.

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Atlanta, GA

#155962 Aug 22, 2012
Prof Dingleberry wrote:
<quoted text>
If you and massresistance say so Gary! Boy, you must have had a great time typing out this post!!
So, about htat evidence you were talking about, will you be providing it anytime soon? I'd like to turn your "evidence" over to authorities so we can make sure all those that commited a crime against minors are dealt with accordingly.
No one cares what you do you cowardly fat assed bastard.
Yet more evidence that taking this dingbat seriously is a waste of time.

Here's the bottom line:

The Little Black Book is actually worse than kiddie porn. Kiddie porn is intended for sick adults like Larry Brinkin. The Little Black Book was meant to recruit innocent young boys into a sex cult.

It's all there: first, the welcoming greeting -- "Hey, Queer Boys!" then line after line of encouragement and tactics the adolescent readers should use to have that first glorious homosexual experience.

It talks about "Coming Out" as it's the most awesome experience a boy can have. In doing this it completely blurs the line between homosexuality and heterosexuality. Every page reads like it's a foregone conclusion the reader will have a homosexual experience in the near future.

Dingleberry wants us to believe the information in the booklet is only about safe sex, but read it yourself and see if you agree with this outrageous lie:
http://www.massresistance.info/downloads/Litt...

Indeed, in two instances the editors actually give the name and numbers of two of the Boston area's notorious man-boy clubs -- places described by registered pedophile Adam Flanders about "Gay-Straight Alliance Clubs," detailing exactly what they are: places where men and boys hook up.

http://mainebusiness.mainetoday.com/newsdirec...

Whoever heard of a safe-sex manual that encouraged boys "to come out", that referred them to man-boy clubs, that listed gay bars with descriptions like "young hot leather crowd" and "mutual jerking off is hot fun!"

Honestly, what do you think happens to the kid when he reads something like that?

And no matter that it uses the terms "boys" and "Youth" whenever it addresses its readers, Dingleberry wants you to believe it wasn't intended for boys and youth; that it was intended for exclusively adult males over 18.

But the booklet was handed out to boys as young as 14 throughout the Boston-Cambridge area -- we know this because every boy that entered the Youth on Fire drop-in center for runaways got one.

All the youth organizations in this area are now run by gay men and we can only assume it was their bright idea to publish and distrute this filth -- until, that is, they got busted handing it out to kids who were supervised -- that would be kids at that Brooklyn high school youth conference.

And when they got busted they lied -- they said it was an accident, that the booklet was never intended for high schools, that it fell off the truck and rolled onto a display table ...

You straight morons who support same-sex marriage were warned about this sort of thing. You were told you can't trust homosexuals -- that the moment your back is turned they'll go after your kids.

The Little Black Book is all the evidence you should need.

"Being honest and outfront about your sexuality is cool."

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