Accident caused by lighter

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May Fong wrote:

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THey have laws about cell phones... In cars. Just wait. Smoking will be next. For the safety of others they will use this accident as their main cause to push it through.
Or smoking with kids in the cars..... CHILD ABUSE. LOL
You have to wear a seat belt or get fined.... ANd you cant smoke in any public place. They will get to your car soon enough.......

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Proud Smoker wrote:

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Well, even I as a smoker agree with the part about children being in the car. I never have nor will I ever smoke with my child in the car (or my home for that matter). He doesn't need to suffer for my habit.
And those saying about this being negligence, yes, I agree he shouldn't have grabbed for his lighter. But when I say it was an accident, I mean he didn't purposely try to run the bikers down and I'm sure he'll live with regret for his entire life. It was more than likely just relex, when you drop something, you try to get it. I've done it, and I'm sure you've done it. All this rehashing and slamming him won't help the matter any.

May Fong wrote:

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I have to say. The WOrld has changed since I was a kid. Back then we had accidents and people understand sometimes bad things happen.
Now there are just Liabilities. If anything happens plan on being Liable.... Whether it was an unintentional accident or not.

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May Fong wrote:

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I have to say. The WOrld has changed since I was a kid. Back then we had accidents and people understand sometimes bad things happen.
Now there are just Liabilities. If anything happens plan on being Liable.... Whether it was an unintentional accident or not.

cableguy802 wrote:

<quoted text>ya back then people were still held liable.

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cableguy802 wrote:

<quoted text>ya back then people were still held liable. someone would have been held at fault. driving is a privilege that should be taken seriously. if you drop something and need it so bad, you should pull over and stop then retrieve it. like i said earlier, it was only some bikers. dont worry about them or thier families and how this will impact them the rest of thier lives. it was just an accident right?? get **** real. because of a stupid lighter(i really believe he was texting also) these people lives are changed forever. i bet if you lost your leg you would be looking for someone to hold liable.

Zeb wrote:

The sad thing is that this driver will probably be sited for a minor violation and at possibly a small fine. I hope the injured parties all file civil suits against him, as it is the only real recourse they have.

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Proud Smoker wrote:

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So you are proposing people cannot smoke in their vehicles now? Yeah, when YOU pay my car payment, YOU can tell me that I cannot do something that is perfectly legal in MY vehicle.
My thoughts and prayers go out to those injured, and also for the person that caused the (key word here folks) ACCIDENT.

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duke wagner wrote:

<quoted text>i don't think they can ban people from smoking in their cars, but it is possibly a good idea. in massachusetts one company found when they charged smokers a surcharge, they drove many drunks and druggies off their roster as well as the mentally ill. they saved a lot of money that way. we need to acknowledge that tobacco is THE gateway drug for all other addictions and that self destructive behavior is not desirable in traffic situations.

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KNOW HIM WELL wrote:

Trust me when I tell you this was no accident. Mr Materson is a substance abusing jerk that belongs locked up. He's no role model in leavittsburg and I know for sure, that's where I'm from. Masterson has had some close calls and not getting caught has been his luck. Masterson you just messed up alot of lives I hope the courts mess yours up to. And as for the media quit stereotyping bikers with helmets and alchol.

duke wagner wrote:

<quoted text>i don't think they can ban people from smoking in their cars, but it is possibly a good idea. in massachusetts one company found when they charged smokers a surcharge, they drove many drunks and druggies off their roster as well as the mentally ill. they saved a lot of money that way. we need to acknowledge that tobacco is THE gateway drug for all other addictions and that self destructive behavior is not desirable in traffic situations.

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Proud Smoker wrote:

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I don't see how tobacco is a gateway drug. I am a 27 year old, working, self-sufficient member or society and have never done any other types of drugs. I realize my post came off as harsh, but really, come on. The person causing the accident could have been reaching for a pop, the radio, or been texting... anything else for that matter. Highlighting the fact that he says it was a lighter just lets people jump on their high horse about anti-smoking. It is a legal product for adults and yes, if you drop a cigarette or a lighter, it could cause an accident (wanted to add that before someone added about alcohol being legal, because this is in no way meant to advocate driving under the influence). But the same could happen with a number of different things (such as a bee flying in your car, the list could go on and on...).
Again, my heart goes out to the people injured and I am not trying to defend the person who was driving the vehicle. I am just so sick of these anti-smoking rants anymore.(By the way, as a smoker, I support and abide by the smoking ban in *most* public places... it being banned in bars is just absurd... but that's a whole other topic xD)