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Teddy R

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#114975 May 9, 2012
joe wrote:
We should raise taxes on those making 250K...maybe three tiers up to 50-70% on the top with obvious deductions for investment in American corps hiring American workers.
Problem?
Yeah. You won't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs - because that goose can run. Capital and wealthy individuals will simply leave the US and go elsewhere, where they and their talents and their capital will be welcomed with open arms.

They already are - in rapidly increasing numbers.

http://www.webpronews.com/u-s-citizenship-ren...

At 70%, you'll see the few thousand wealthy Americans tax refugees renouncing every year hit 5 figures. Not good for America. Americans needs to wake up to the fact that the US is no longer the only, or even the shiniest, Eldorado in today's world. We are in cut-throat competition now for capital and the most innovative and brilliant people, and it's an uphill battle. Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg might be one in a million, but there are a thousand more just like them in China, and the surest way to get less of something is to tax it more.

Dumb idea, and a foolish price to pay, when this doesn't raise any really significant amount of new revenue, in comparison to what's needed to right the fiscal ship. There simply aren't enough '1 percenters' to even make a dent in the vastly over-bloated black hole/money sink inside the Beltway.

Go ahead and wage your progressive class war on the wealthy, but don't pretend it won't have negative consequences. You'll get exactly what you're wishing for - Amoerica reduced to a lower common demoninator.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#114976 May 10, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah. You won't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs - because that goose can run. Capital and wealthy individuals will simply leave the US and go elsewhere, where they and their talents and their capital will be welcomed with open arms.
They already are - in rapidly increasing numbers.
http://www.webpronews.com/u-s-citizenship-ren...
At 70%, you'll see the few thousand wealthy Americans tax refugees renouncing every year hit 5 figures. Not good for America. Americans needs to wake up to the fact that the US is no longer the only, or even the shiniest, Eldorado in today's world. We are in cut-throat competition now for capital and the most innovative and brilliant people, and it's an uphill battle. Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg might be one in a million, but there are a thousand more just like them in China, and the surest way to get less of something is to tax it more.
Dumb idea, and a foolish price to pay, when this doesn't raise any really significant amount of new revenue, in comparison to what's needed to right the fiscal ship. There simply aren't enough '1 percenters' to even make a dent in the vastly over-bloated black hole/money sink inside the Beltway.
Go ahead and wage your progressive class war on the wealthy, but don't pretend it won't have negative consequences. You'll get exactly what you're wishing for - Amoerica reduced to a lower common demoninator.
Let the geese run, and then bar them from ever returning to the US. We can even bar US businesses from doing business with any of them. Let them run.

At one time the top rate was 90% because that is what the nation needed. Did Ford run? Did the bush's and Kennedy's run?

I say let the lilly livered cowards run and then completely ostracize them from America.

Teddy's answer is to cut Food Stamps and housing from people who don't have enough food or housing.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#114977 May 10, 2012
The world you live in is this world that is right, from the Layman definition of Framer concept of tradition, but not from revolution.

Mormons are great and fine, as well-suited under the Constitution, since Mormon faith fits in the Constitution while it puts on not any label to specify in the conduct and lifestyle of the privacy of the president.

Therefore, Mormons are preferred than Muslim faith of Obama and some other faith, in reference to the Constitution or not.

You have a crazy, sick and insane pair Obama and Biden doing the crazy thing by doing queer support of gay marriage, as these two might as well marry each other, for they simply say anything that overthrows anything to become queer, as was impossible, is made possible in their hands to enhance a troublesome society in chaos.

This Obama extremist is always thinking of every day as a revolution as his chairman Mao says, by defying human rights principle as he realizes those like blind man dissident being abused in China can be ignored, and at the same time takes gay marriage instead, by thinking the whole world is for revolution for illegals , Muslims and Islams to come to USA to become the zoo of queer aninmals to have the animal way and gay encounters , to see what this new way of animal-style will be like, in order to make the new revolution style of having no borders and talking about terorism to beat to then.

The world's founded foundation goes on doing fine by adopting Mormon's definition of family structures and tradition for universal people, as like-minded world Internationals are feeling alike.

Within this universe, there will be the tradition that must go on , so that this universal decoration of tradition as lives of human structures and families shall be doing fine, as all people must finalize the fine tune that gay marriage is never and will never be the founded foundation of worldwide International people.

“"U.S. Constitution"”

Since: Mar 09

Tea-Party

#114978 May 10, 2012
joe wrote:
We should raise taxes on those making 250K...maybe three tiers up to 50-70% on the top with obvious deductions for investment in American corps hiring American workers.
Problem?
Yeah, like Obama's not a multi-millionaire. I love watching all you knuckleheads down picketing on Wall Street against the very same people that OBAMA GAVE BILLIONS OF TAXPAYER BAILOUT DOLLARS TO!
The lunacy and hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a finger. Get a clue, the liberal elite socialists running this country have absolutely NO CONNECTION to the working stiff, and NO COMPREHENSION of the strife they have caused us:

http://www.akdart.com/lib6.html
joe

San Anselmo, CA

#114979 May 10, 2012
Dee Lay wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, like Obama's not a multi-millionaire. I love watching all you knuckleheads down picketing on Wall Street against the very same people that OBAMA GAVE BILLIONS OF TAXPAYER BAILOUT DOLLARS TO!
The lunacy and hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a finger. Get a clue, the liberal elite socialists running this country have absolutely NO CONNECTION to the working stiff, and NO COMPREHENSION of the strife they have caused us:
http://www.akdart.com/lib6.html
Hey, pay attention. No one mentioned Obama or any individual. We're talking income brackets not political affiliation.

But, since you had to go and get all partisan, maybe you'd like to point out all the great things the Repub/tea party is proposing for the "working stiff." They have been running the House for quite awhile now. Where are all the job bills?

And please, don't give me that deficit cutting crap until you can demonstrate which countries are thriving by slashing their deficits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/world/europ...
Teddy R

Muscat, Oman

#114980 May 11, 2012
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
Let the geese run, and then bar them from ever returning to the US. We can even bar US businesses from doing business with any of them. Let them run.
Wow. Such progressive control-freak ANGER and RESENTMENT!

Those US businesses you want to bar from pursuing lucrative business overseas opportunities with foreign parners? Good luck with that. 1) The federal government would need a legal basis for interfering with perfectly legitimate business operations - what would it be? 2) They'll just move offshore even faster and easier; they don't have passports and citizenship to renounce - all it takes is a wire transfer ... and you've just succeeded in making America that much poorer. Congratulations. Dummy.

How do you see America's economy and people profiting by your mindless scorched-earth policy of angry retribution against all who dare to avoid your confiscatory tax grab, exactly?

From where I sit, if you wanted to accelerate America's decline into mediocrity and trickle-up egalitarian poverty, yours is the way to do it.
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
At one time the top rate was 90% because that is what the nation needed. Did Ford run? Did the bush's and Kennedy's run?
I say let the lilly livered cowards run and then completely ostracize them from America.
News flash: It's 2012. Not 1928.

Here's how the world works today:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-11/face...
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
Teddy's answer is to cut Food Stamps and housing from people who don't have enough food or...
No, that's OKB "The Strawman King" who's got nothing getting desperate and reverting to form - putting words in others' mouths again.

GTFO loser.
Teddy R

Muscat, Oman

#114981 May 11, 2012
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
Let the geese run, and then bar them from ever returning to the US. We can even bar US businesses from doing business with any of them. Let them run.
Woh woh WOH! LISTEN to US!! Now that's interesting - such progressive control-freak ANGER and RESENTMENT! Where's all that progressive control-freak anger and resentment coming from, OKB?

Those US businesses you want to bar from pursuing lucrative business overseas opportunities with foreign parners? Good luck with that. 1) The federal government would need a legal basis for interfering with perfectly legitimate business operations - what would it be? 2) They'll just move offshore even faster and easier; they don't have passports and citizenship to renounce - all it takes is a wire transfer ... and you've just succeeded in making America that much poorer. Congratulations. Dummy.

How do you see America's economy and people profiting by your mindless scorched-earth policy of angry retribution against all who dare to avoid your confiscatory tax grab, exactly?

From where I sit, if you wanted to accelerate America's decline into mediocrity and trickle-up egalitarian poverty, yours is the way to do it.
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
At one time the top rate was 90% because that is what the nation needed. Did Ford run? Did the bush's and Kennedy's run?
I say let the lilly livered cowards run and then completely ostracize them from America.
News flash: It's 2012. Not 1928.

Here's how the world works today:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-11/face...
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
Teddy's answer is to cut Food Stamps and housing from people who don't have enough food or ... WAAAH WAAAH WAHHHHH!!!
No, that's OKB "The Strawman King" who's got nothing getting desperate and reverting to form - putting words in others' mouths again.

GTFO loser.

“"U.S. Constitution"”

Since: Mar 09

Tea-Party

#114982 May 11, 2012
Biden to Obama: Sorry for jumping the gun
He apologizes for his shotgun comments on gay marriage that sparked a frenzy on the issue.

Causing the Obama the election...GO BIDEN!!!

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#114983 May 11, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. Such progressive control-freak ANGER and RESENTMENT!
Those US businesses you want to bar from pursuing lucrative business overseas opportunities with foreign parners? Good luck with that. 1) The federal government would need a legal basis for interfering with perfectly legitimate business operations - what would it be? 2) They'll just move offshore even faster and easier; they don't have passports and citizenship to renounce - all it takes is a wire transfer ... and you've just succeeded in making America that much poorer. Congratulations. Dummy.
How do you see America's economy and people profiting by your mindless scorched-earth policy of angry retribution against all who dare to avoid your confiscatory tax grab, exactly?
From where I sit, if you wanted to accelerate America's decline into mediocrity and trickle-up egalitarian poverty, yours is the way to do it.
<quoted text>
News flash: It's 2012. Not 1928.
Here's how the world works today:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-11/face...
<quoted text>
No, that's OKB "The Strawman King" who's got nothing getting desperate and reverting to form - putting words in others' mouths again.
GTFO loser.
So you think Americz needs those that will take from her but will not return the favor when America is in need? That is stating a fact, no hatred or jealousy involved. Let them run, don't let them back. Don't let them ever profit from America again. They are worse takers than someone on welfare because they have the ability to give back.

And remember, it was the government that ended workfare due to the cost.

Strawman? Why did you bring them up if it was a strawman? You are the one that said they would run and offered evidence, I just said let them run and hold them responsible for it. Do you have a problem holding them responsible for their actions?
Teddy R

San Francisco, CA

#114985 May 12, 2012
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think Americz needs those that will take from her but will not return the favor when America is in need? That is stating a fact, no hatred or jealousy involved. Let them run, don't let them back. Don't let them ever profit from America again. They are worse takers than someone on welfare because they have the ability to give back.
More progressive liberal claptrap from a clueless tool of the Political Classes.

Once again your words reveal your inability to distinguish between THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND OUR NATION and the PROFESSIONAL POLITICAL CLASSES in Washington that have usurped our federal government and bent it to provide themselves with personal political wealth and power.

"Giving back" to you only means handing over hard-won capital - our nation's economic seed corn - over to your political masters in Washington so they can continue to gorge themselves at the public trough, and we can watch it be squandered on more GM/Wall Street/UAW bailouts, more ObamaScares, more foolish Solyndras, and more treasonous Fast and Furious crimes. And then wonder why people have no jobs and the nation continues to slide into poverty, mediocrity, and increasing irrelevance in the world ...

That's all "giving back" means to OKB.

You can't conceive of putting your and your family's personal wealth and well-being at risk by investing in starting or growing an enterprise that provide many others with jobs and livlihoods as "giving back," can you?

You can't conceive of generating business and economic success that grows the American private economy and provides an ever-increasing standard of living for all Americans at large as "giving back," can you? In OKB's anti-corporate/anti-capitalist /neo-Luddite/socialist ideological mind, only the Great and Powerful OZ in WASHINGTON you worship can do that, right?

You can't conceive of the hundreds of billions of dollars annually of private philanthropy and giving by private foundations like the ones that scroll up the screen after every PBS program as "giving back," can you?

You can't conceive of the hundreds of billions of private and corporate giving that willingly provide your favorite social and political causes with means and a voice as "giving back," can you?

You can't conceive of the huge private endowments and private giving that makes America's crown jewels - its schools and Universities - a reality as "giving back," can you?

And you can't conceive of the hollowed-out shell of an America that will be left after your progressive political masters in Washington have sucked it dry and driven all our best and brightest talent elsewhere in the world, just as you propose.

You are a sad and clueless little progressive tool.
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
Strawman? Why did you bring them up if it was a strawman? You are the one that said they would run and offered evidence, I just said let them run and hold them responsible for it. Do you have a problem holding them responsible for their actions?
Go back and read the specific text of your post that my "strawman" comment refers to, OKB. You know, the whiny BS about "Teddy wants to take food out of the mouths of the poor."

You should be ashamed, you pathetic partisan political hack.

Again, just GTFO.
Marge

Gloversville, NY

#114986 May 12, 2012
Obama is too busy making shur you can get What what in your butt and then get married
HancockWalter

Cheyenne, WY

#114988 May 12, 2012
like Edith said I am blown away that any one able to earn $9105 in one month on the internet. have you seen this webpage http://zapit.nu/23a
Joe II

Singapore, Singapore

#114989 May 12, 2012
Obama constantly liesd . Here is a whopper about his father.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#114991 May 12, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
More progressive liberal claptrap from a clueless tool of the Political Classes.
Once again your words reveal your inability to distinguish between THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND OUR NATION and the PROFESSIONAL POLITICAL CLASSES in Washington that have usurped our federal government and bent it to provide themselves with personal political wealth and power.
"Giving back" to you only means handing over hard-won capital - our nation's economic seed corn - over to your political masters in Washington so they can continue to gorge themselves at the public trough, and we can watch it be squandered on more GM/Wall Street/UAW bailouts, more ObamaScares, more foolish Solyndras, and more treasonous Fast and Furious crimes. And then wonder why people have no jobs and the nation continues to slide into poverty, mediocrity, and increasing irrelevance in the world ...
That's all "giving back" means to OKB.
You can't conceive of putting your and your family's personal wealth and well-being at risk by investing in starting or growing an enterprise that provide many others with jobs and livlihoods as "giving back," can you?
You can't conceive of generating business and economic success that grows the American private economy and provides an ever-increasing standard of living for all Americans at large as "giving back," can you? In OKB's anti-corporate/anti-capitalist /neo-Luddite/socialist ideological mind, only the Great and Powerful OZ in WASHINGTON you worship can do that, right?
You can't conceive of the hundreds of billions of dollars annually of private philanthropy and giving by private foundations like the ones that scroll up the screen after every PBS program as "giving back," can you?
You can't conceive of the hundreds of billions of private and corporate giving that willingly provide your favorite social and political causes with means and a voice as "giving back," can you?
You can't conceive of the huge private endowments and private giving that makes America's crown jewels - its schools and Universities - a reality as "giving back," can you?
And you can't conceive of the hollowed-out shell of an America that will be left after your progressive political masters in Washington have sucked it dry and driven all our best and brightest talent elsewhere in the world, just as you propose.
You are a sad and clueless little progressive tool.
<quoted text>
Go back and read the specific text of your post that my "strawman" comment refers to, OKB. You know, the whiny BS about "Teddy wants to take food out of the mouths of the poor."
You should be ashamed, you pathetic partisan political hack.
Again, just GTFO.
So tell me, you indicated you were for a balanced approach, who do you suggest should pay more taxes?
Teddy R

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#114994 May 12, 2012
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
So tell me, you indicated you were for a balanced approach, who do you suggest should pay more taxes?
We've been over this before.

Flat tax, everybody over federal poverty level income pays, no deductions, how much did you make, take 17%, send it in. One-page tax return, no more tax lawyers, tax dodge artists, and legions of IRS agents - they all have to go get real jobs.
Teddy R

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#114997 May 12, 2012
Another example of what happens when one does NOT control spending and aggressively impose auterity budgets when one cannot pay one's bills:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/us/huge-new...

“"U.S. Constitution"”

Since: Mar 09

Tea-Party

#115000 May 13, 2012
Guinness Drinker wrote:
a politician making promises ? no such thing
Gov. Timothy M. Kaine won scattered applause from Liberty University students Monday when he spoke as a surrogate for Democrat Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, but not much support for some of Obama’s positions.

A buzz rippled through students assembled for one of Liberty’s three-times-a-week convocations when Kaine called Obama “a person of strong moral values.”

After Kaine talked about Obama’s ideas for the economy and national security, he brought up “issues on which there are some concerns”— abortion and gay marriage.
Politics as usual

Huntington Station, NY

#115001 May 13, 2012
apparently Obama is now asking for another stimulus/payoff.

Obama is getting desperate and will do anything for votes, including lieing,

kicking back tax dollars to special interest groups,

paying off campaign contributors with tax dollars like with the green jobs scam,

paying off supporters with government jobs even if they are not qualified for the job,

creating race riots,

creating false war on women, or minorities,

he will do anything and say anything.

he has no moral compass whatsoever, and he is the worst president in the history of America.

i don't care what he says his stimulus is, we can all count on the fact that it will drive up debt, it will not stimulate the economy, and it will payoff his supporters.

enough is enough, November can not come fast enough.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#115002 May 13, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
We've been over this before.
Flat tax, everybody over federal poverty level income pays, no deductions, how much did you make, take 17%, send it in. One-page tax return, no more tax lawyers, tax dodge artists, and legions of IRS agents - they all have to go get real jobs.
That was not the question, who do you think should pay more taxes? Everytime I mentioned the rich you poo-poo'd the idea. If more has to be collected it has to come from somewhere, so who do you suggest?

Now, the way you tax may answer that question indirectly, but I am looking for a direct response from you.

Your reliance on a method of taxation in order to answer the question is distorting because I may not agree with your method of taxation even if it taxes the rich more.
Teddy R

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#115003 May 13, 2012
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
That was not the question, who do you think should pay more taxes? Everytime I mentioned the rich you poo-poo'd the idea. If more has to be collected it has to come from somewhere, so who do you suggest?
Now, the way you tax may answer that question indirectly, but I am looking for a direct response from you.
Your reliance on a method of taxation in order to answer the question is distorting because I may not agree with your method of taxation even if it taxes the rich more.
You have my clear and direct answer, as far as the federal Income tax is concerned, so quit waffling and make up your mind.

It doesn't get any more clear and direct that what I've posted.

The question of taxes is properly addressed as nothing more nor less than a matter of finding the fairest and most efficient way of raising the revenue necessary to run the federal government. Period.

A simple Flat Tax with a means-tested zero-tax threshold and no looholes, deductions, complicated Credits, etc. is a progressive, objectively fair, and efficient tax that clearly meets meets this requirement.

But for you and your fellow Progressive partisan political class warrior idealogues, taxes are just another scheme - a political fight you're desperate to pick, in which there must be winners and losers that can be played off against one another for partisan political profit. The question of how the NATION benefits or loses and how well the taxpayers' scarce money is being used to deliver maximum value back to them in public goods and services with minimum wastage on pointless bureaucracy and political machinations holds no importance for you and your ilk, does it?

So your question deserves no answer from serious patriotic Americans - because it's a destructive and stupid one, typical of the professional Political Class that needs to be run out of Washington on a rail.

My answer? GTFO, partisan hack.

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