Teen suspected of stealing car is fatally shot

We do not have to pay for his jail time as he is dead. All over a stolen car. Why not work and buy a car? When are our youth going to learn? CRIME DOES NOT PAY!!! Take your chances if you want to but look where it can get you. Graveyard dead! Is this what you want? Is it worth it? The answer should be no but I know that some of you are thinking it will never happen to me. That may have been what he thouight also. Think before you do stupid things like this punk did.

Jerry,Jerry,Jerry , You ever hear that old saying about believeing half of what you hear ? Or are you just one of those BLINDER wearing people that think the Police can do no wrong. The story the police are telling sounds so trite they didn't even have to say it , It is always the same when the cops gun down a kid .Watch every time you hear of a police chase where someone is killed they say " We ended the pursuit 30 seconds before the crash", Or the officer was in fear for his life , The police are trained how to approach a vehicle and do the felony stop they dont walk up to the car. This was an over reaction and this cop needs to lose his job and face some jail time for murder. The kid didn't steal the car it was already stolen according to the story, then the kid trying to avoid a police car in front of him backs up and oops he hits the police car behind him now its a felony and it is because the cops forced it by being right on his tail, The kid was just trying to get away and the joy ride cost him his life. Did you see not to long ago the cops killed a guy who was trying to avoid a stop stick in a very low speed vehicle chase then they say he was trying to run the other officer down, what bull crap , I'll bet if it were your kid you would have a slightly different view on this matter.

Jerry wrote:

We do not have to pay for his jail time as he is dead. All over a stolen car. Why not work and buy a car? When are our youth going to learn? CRIME DOES NOT PAY!!! Take your chances if you want to but look where it can get you. Graveyard dead! Is this what you want? Is it worth it? The answer should be no but I know that some of you are thinking it will never happen to me. That may have been what he thouight also. Think before you do stupid things like this punk did.

I know what you mean Jerry, I'm 24 years old and I'm absolutely appalled by how idiotic people just a few years younger than I are acting. Why kids think it's absolutely okay to just shoot and kill someone because they are in a stupid argument or steal someone else's car because you don't have one and try to run over a cop with it. Surely these idiots know they are going to get caught for their crimes, especially when it's so damn out in the open. So many people don't have the simple ability to think about how their actions are going to affect other people.

The police officer did the right thing. Why do these little immature teenagers think that they can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it so easily. There are alot of teenagers, and I am not saying all of them, that do these kinds of things and the only thing they get is a slap in the wrist. ALL criminals should be treated the same. If a teenager murders someone, then throw them in prison with all the other murderers. They need to start changing the laws for these teenagers. They need to be tougher on them.

Alex Did you read the same story I did ? Maybe you are just another one of the idiots that think the police can do no wrong. Or you must not know anyone that has ever had contact with the police. Try this on and tell me what you would think if it were you .

My Daughter was 15 and a honor roll student perfect attendance all through her school , one summer afternoon she was riding a Yamaha Razz scooter I had given her down to the park to see her friends Now this town is small 3 gas stations 1 IGA store and a voulentary fire department My pole barn is bigger than the library, high school is 8 miles away , And there is nothing for the young people to do , and yet a Sheriff's Depuity pulls her over asked her if she had stolen it. Her first time ever having contact with law inforcement and she is thought to be a thief.
She is now attending Purdue University and has not had any other contact with the police . But the point is the cops are not perfect. Open your mind and your eyes, Try reading some of the news instead of snap judgments.

Alex_Ft Worth wrote:

The police officer did the right thing. Why do these little immature teenagers think that they can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it so easily. There are alot of teenagers, and I am not saying all of them, that do these kinds of things and the only thing they get is a slap in the wrist. ALL criminals should be treated the same. If a teenager murders someone, then throw them in prison with all the other murderers. They need to start changing the laws for these teenagers. They need to be tougher on them.

To Bondo_Morocco, IN
Apparently, you're the idiot. What story did you read b-cuz the one I read says these teenagers tried to, not only steal the vehicle, but attempted to runover the police officer too. Sorry what happened to your daughter but did she attempt to run away and run over the police officer? I did not see that in your post. Just in case you missed it in the story, I went ahead and copied so you can read on:

<<The shooting occurred when a plainclothes detective saw two stolen, unoccupied Hondas in the apartment complex parking lot. As he waited for additional officers to arrive, the detective sat in an unmarked police car. At some point, two suspects -- a 19-year-old from McKinney and a 17-year-old from Irving -- arrived at the complex and burglarized one of the stolen vehicles, police said. The men returned to their vehicle and drove away as the detective followed them, police said. Responding patrol officers stopped that vehicle a short distance from the complex and arrested the two men, police said.

The detective returned to the two stolen Hondas still at the complex. Two other suspects got into one of the vehicles and drove away, police said, as the detective radioed the information to other responding officers.

An officer blocked that vehicle in the parking lot with a patrol car, police said, and the driver of the vehicle shifted into reverse and rammed the detective's vehicle that had been following them, police said.

The patrol officer got out of his vehicle and attempted to get the suspects out of their vehicle, police said.

When the vehicle accelerated toward him, the officer fired multiple times, Irving police spokesman David Tull said.>>

Now, next time read the whole story before posting any snap judgements. Just in case you misunderstood my previous post, I did say NOT ALL TEENAGERS are like that. FYI, I don't think that the police can do no wrong. These police officers did the right thing! Let tell you something, my sister had her vehicle stolen to by some idiotic teenagers. They ended up burning it too. The police in her town did not do anything about it. They wouldn't even make a dam report. These teenagers are now harrassing her and the police still won't do anything. All they could say is for her to tell the parents. What good is that going to do. Yeah, these cops in her town aren't perfect but at least the ones in Irving did something about it. You don't live in Texas like I do, so you have no idea how bad crime has got between teenagers. Maybe next you should read or see the whole news that happens here and not just what happens where you're at.

To Alex Please read the story nice and slow and try to picture the events unfolding in your mind.
1. plainclothed police in unmarked police car find 2 stolen hondas in same lot.

This means the cars are already stolen, not about to be , when the first 2 arrived why did he not arrest them ?

2.Marked police unit blocks escape of second set of kids .

They dont try to ram the officer, they try to back up and find another way out , But they hit a squad behind them an accident not intentional ramming.

3. Officer is caught up in the heat of the moment the kids cant go backwards they just hit a car so the drive forwards and the cop is on his way to attempt to arrest as they try another escape and he shoots.

There are proper steps to take to make a felony arrest he didn't do that and put himself in front of the fleeing suspects . They were trying to get away not hit the officer .

So tell me what you dont understand. When is a car worth a life the cops could have rammed the honda and disabled it and then make the arrest but no ,Shoot first ask questions later.

Maybe if you don't want to get shot, you shouldn't steal.

Good thing we can't put the 10 commandments in schools.

What country are you from ? Theft is not a capitol offence in this one.

MJM wrote:

Maybe if you don't want to get shot, you shouldn't steal.
Good thing we can't put the 10 commandments in schools.

Bondo wrote:

What country are you from ? Theft is not a capitol offence in this one.
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It's legal to shoot someone stealing your stuff, though.

And the law of Moses agrees with such penalty.

Yea in Texas if they come on your property to steal it , if its on the street you dont have the right to kill . It was not the police officers job to find them guilty and impose the death penalty. If you want to be so true to God's law given unto Moses then by all means Do the world A favor and Kill your self I am sure at one time or another you have looked at a woman not your wife or spouse and thought " I sure would like some of that " and that is coveting , not as bad as killing but one of ten given to Mo for the people.

MJM wrote:

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It's legal to shoot someone stealing your stuff, though.
And the law of Moses agrees with such penalty.

Bondo wrote:

Yea in Texas if they come on your property to steal it , if its on the street you dont have the right to kill . It was not the police officers job to find them guilty and impose the death penalty. If you want to be so true to God's law given unto Moses then by all means Do the world A favor and Kill your self I am sure at one time or another you have looked at a woman not your wife or spouse and thought " I sure would like some of that " and that is coveting , not as bad as killing but one of ten given to Mo for the people.
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Get a lfe and a reality check. He had a stolen car, tried to run over a cop. The punk got what he deserved. Now tax payers like me, not you probably, will not have to foot his legal defense bill, appeals , and cost of his prison time that he surely would have gotten. Good ridance to another part of the problem in the good old USA!!

Bondo wrote:

To Alex Please read the story nice and slow and try to picture the events unfolding in your mind.
1. plainclothed police in unmarked police car find 2 stolen hondas in same lot.
This means the cars are already stolen, not about to be , when the first 2 arrived why did he not arrest them ?
2.Marked police unit blocks escape of second set of kids .
They dont try to ram the officer, they try to back up and find another way out , But they hit a squad behind them an accident not intentional ramming.
3. Officer is caught up in the heat of the moment the kids cant go backwards they just hit a car so the drive forwards and the cop is on his way to attempt to arrest as they try another escape and he shoots.
There are proper steps to take to make a felony arrest he didn't do that and put himself in front of the fleeing suspects . They were trying to get away not hit the officer .
So tell me what you dont understand. When is a car worth a life the cops could have rammed the honda and disabled it and then make the arrest but no ,Shoot first ask questions later.

Bondo, I really don't think you can say much. You live in a small town and not in a big city. You don't know how bad crime is in a city. "They were trying to get away and trying to find another escape," you say. How stupid does that sound. First of all, you don't try to escape from the police or find another way to. If you were smart, you would just stop. Why do you think the police unit blocks their escape. What the hell do you think the police were suppose to do, let them go and put other people's lives in danger. Second, it was 1 detective against 2 suspects, that's why he waited to call other officers. If you really see or read the news, you would know that so many officers had gotten shot just by trying to stop 1 suspect. It's been happening way to much here and I don't blame them for not taking a stupid risk by them getting shot or killed first. You seem to be defending these idiotic thiefs for what they did. I bet if these officers wouldn't of done anything about it everyone would of been on their case. Come live over here, maybe you would get a reality check!

Bondo wrote:

Yea in Texas if they come on your property to steal it , if its on the street you dont have the right to kill . It was not the police officers job to find them guilty and impose the death penalty. If you want to be so true to God's law given unto Moses then by all means Do the world A favor and Kill your self I am sure at one time or another you have looked at a woman not your wife or spouse and thought " I sure would like some of that " and that is coveting , not as bad as killing but one of ten given to Mo for the people.
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So if they've already stolen the property successfully and are running from the police, we should let them go?

Chill out. The lust in my heart stays beaten down as best as I can.

Why is it important for you to defend criminals while engaged in criminal behavior?

It's really simple to me. Don't steal a car, cops won't shoot me. Steal a car, risk getting shot. I choose option A.

Alex just because I live in a small town now don't mean I was borne here, I am from Chicago borne there rasied on the south side south of 55th streetand east of loomis ,went to Holmes school @ 55 and peoria and libby school at 53rd and loomis grade schools tilden tech 4747 s. union then for a while around North ave & Kedzie At 18 joined the Marine Corps MCRD for boot then ITR @Camp pendelton . My son was borne in Anaheim Ca. I have been to quite a few big citys and I tell you now These kids were not Adults thinking like adults they were kids thinking like idiots, Too bad they ran across what has to be one of the dumbest police officers on the planet. His training taught him how to effect an arrest and he didn't use the felony arrest procedures, Even in a combat zone there are rules of engagement, The way I see it Suspected terrorist in Iraq have a better chance of living in a war zone than a teenager in this country out for a joy ride.

MJM_Dallas TX, Great post and good choice.
Bondo, it's obvious you just want to find any excuse to defend these idiotic criminals. It's not right to break the law in this country, nor is it right to steal, run away from the police, or try to runover them. If you really think there's a better chance living in Iraq, then go move and live over there.

To Alex , Al sometimes when I come across people who think like you do I try and have them sit back a few seconds and try to remember time when they were young and foolish, Thinking how uninformed their parents are and also thinking they were going to live forever. I do not think these kids were thinking about anything but getting away and trying to kill a police officer was not what they were thinking they were gonna do . If you look at the story and play it in your mind in slow motion you will see what I mean.

They did not ram the officer that blocked the exit did they ? NO
They back up, they are scared not realizing they have a unmarked unit right behind them , Bamthe hit the unmarked squad , This is an accident not an attempt to ram AN ACCIDENT,
Now pay attention right hear The rear is blocked by the unmarked squad, back into drive trying to find another way out and the officer Opens fire, Killing a kid for what taking a ride in a hot car. you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty , what happens when the other kid tells the story the way I am is the officer mistake still a good reason to kill someone ?if you think like that you belong in Iraq . If you think Killing someone for nothing is the right thing to do then you belong on the other side.

Alex _ Ft Worth wrote:

MJM_Dallas TX, Great post and good choice.
Bondo, it's obvious you just want to find any excuse to defend these idiotic criminals. It's not right to break the law in this country, nor is it right to steal, run away from the police, or try to runover them. If you really think there's a better chance living in Iraq, then go move and live over there.

Bondo wrote:

To Alex , Al sometimes when I come across people who think like you do I try and have them sit back a few seconds and try to remember time when they were young and foolish, Thinking how uninformed their parents are and also thinking they were going to live forever. I do not think these kids were thinking about anything but getting away and trying to kill a police officer was not what they were thinking they were gonna do . If you look at the story and play it in your mind in slow motion you will see what I mean.
They did not ram the officer that blocked the exit did they ? NO
They back up, they are scared not realizing they have a unmarked unit right behind them , Bamthe hit the unmarked squad , This is an accident not an attempt to ram AN ACCIDENT,
Now pay attention right hear The rear is blocked by the unmarked squad, back into drive trying to find another way out and the officer Opens fire, Killing a kid for what taking a ride in a hot car. you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty , what happens when the other kid tells the story the way I am is the officer mistake still a good reason to kill someone ?if you think like that you belong in Iraq . If you think Killing someone for nothing is the right thing to do then you belong on the other side.
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They were resisting arrest.

So you claim the cops didn't follow procedure? Praytell, BONDO.

Who claimed they were killed for nothing? They were shot while committing two felonies and resisting arrest, assaulting a police officer with a deadly weapon, and grand theft auto. I'm guessing resisting arrest is a misdemeanor. I'm not sure, I've never tried to run from, then over, a policeman doing his job while I was stealing someone else's property.

I have zero sympathy for the dead 16 yr. old.

If he had run over the police officer, he would have been tried as an adult, for murder!!

Personally, I'm glad the officer is safe and able to go home to his wife and children while he's keeping my neighborhood safe from low life thugs that prey on the innocent.

How is somebody dumb enough to steal a car and then risk there lives for a stupid prank.