Police cite 12-year-old for punching teacher

Was the aide taken to the hospital because of minor injuries in order to document the reason for citing the youngster?

Sounds like a warm washcloth and maybe a bandaid would have done the job.

I wonder wrote:

Was the aide taken to the hospital because of minor injuries in order to document the reason for citing the youngster?
Sounds like a warm washcloth and maybe a bandaid would have done the job.

IF, in fact, the injuries were superficial. It is noted that in worker's compensation scenarios the employer would want to require the employee to seek medical attention, especially in light of modern world wherein "Universal Precautions" come into play. Some may call it CYA which is NOT short for California Youth Authority.

Hopefully the instructional aide has good union represenation and will never have to be in the same classroom with this student again!

If a teacher is assulted, they do recommend that they go seek medical attention, especially if it is a facial/head injury. The tecaher had to be transported by ambulance, so it couldn't have been that superficial.

Charge the parents with the bill. Not sure why the removed my earlier post but the kid should be sent to the CYA whether it was a superficial wound or not. He needs some discipline and obviously the parents aren't providing it.

Who is raising all these loser kids? Print their parents names for gosh sakes!

just to be clear. a classroom aide is not a teacher by any stretch of the imagination. These aides are helpers no more, no less. aides simply need more training.

carlos fernandez wrote:

just to be clear. a classroom aide is not a teacher by any stretch of the imagination. These aides are helpers no more, no less. aides simply need more training.

so what's your point, its okay to punch an aide but not a teacher. Peanl code applies to both

I meant penal code - sorry

carlos fernandez wrote:

just to be clear. a classroom aide is not a teacher by any stretch of the imagination. These aides are helpers no more, no less. aides simply need more training.

What? On how to block punches?

This incident occurred in a self-contained classroom for children with severe developmental disabilities and children who are severely emotionally disturbed (aka mentally ill). These children are not delinquents, they have brain damage and/or brain chemistry imbalance that results in them having difficulty being able to control their behavior.

The severely developmentally disabled, unless they receive intense therapy at a young age, may never be able to bring their behavior under control. With medication and intense therapy the severely emotionally disturbed may be able to get reasonable control of their behavior. However, in both cases punishment almost never results in behavior change.

I sure hope the police took into consideration the child's disability before citing him. For example, if he has autism, touching him unexpectedly could have triggered him to strike the aide, because the touch felt like he was being punch. Giving an autistic child a criminal record does not serve the child or the society!

The aide has grounds and sufficient evidence for a civil suit against the parents. Damages, pain and suffering can add up to more than just small claims court. Maybe that will encourage them to do a better job of parenting.
I would like to be on that jury.

Get it right wrote:

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so what's your point, its okay to punch an aide but not a teacher. Peanl code applies to both

No student should be allowed to hit, punch or touch a teacher, aide or fellow student just as these same rules apply to a teachers . Everyone is entitled to a safe school environment. In my day, if you ever hit a teacher you were expelled, never being allowed back in the same school district. The parents would have to pay to have their expelled child sent to a private school or another town. We are wasting valuable school tax dollars for the teachers to babysit problem students that are out of control.

No, now the school district will have to pay for a Non public school placement at about 50,000. Yes, the SCHOOL DISTRICT pays that. It may not be Woodland as the Horizon program serves all the districts in the County. Emotionally Disturbed children are in Special Education with an IEP. This child will go through a specific process and probably be moved to another school, but expulsion is not going to happen because they probably lashed out because of their disibility,like woodlander95 said.
No they CANT sue the parents either. Workers comp covers it and they have NO legal action that can be taken because their child is disabled. I know this first hand, and for school district employees they CANT sue the parents!

Knights Landing wrote:

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No student should be allowed to hit, punch or touch a teacher, aide or fellow student just as these same rules apply to a teachers . Everyone is entitled to a safe school environment. In my day, if you ever hit a teacher you were expelled, never being allowed back in the same school district. The parents would have to pay to have their expelled child sent to a private school or another town. We are wasting valuable school tax dollars for the teachers to babysit problem students that are out of control.

If you were in school before 1975, schools were not legally required to educate any disabled children. Schools could even refused to educate polo victims, children with spinal cord injuries, blindness, deafness, etc. The more severely disabled children where frequently institutionalized and given no educational opportunities.

Stupid cops, the boy is enrolled in a a self-contained classroom and serves students with severe developmental disabilities and those who are emotionally disturbed. I don't know where they get these cops from? Idiots!

you all keep using the word disability, as if it were some stupid kid on a wheelchair, it was a kid with ADHD, yes it is considered a mental disability but a dangerous one too, these kids are almost uncontrollable, they don't think of their actions, they could kill you in a instant and not show any remorse, as if nothing happened. Teachers are well aware of these types of people and how dangerous they are when they're hired for the job, So the teacher shouldn't complain, its more the school district fault, they need to hire big built men as teachers, lol

Woodlander95 wrote:

This incident occurred in a self-contained classroom for children with severe developmental disabilities and children who are severely emotionally disturbed (aka mentally ill). These children are not delinquents, they have brain damage and/or brain chemistry imbalance that results in them having difficulty being able to control their behavior.
The severely developmentally disabled, unless they receive intense therapy at a young age, may never be able to bring their behavior under control. With medication and intense therapy the severely emotionally disturbed may be able to get reasonable control of their behavior. However, in both cases punishment almost never results in behavior change.
I sure hope the police took into consideration the child's disability before citing him. For example, if he has autism, touching him unexpectedly could have triggered him to strike the aide, because the touch felt like he was being punch. Giving an autistic child a criminal record does not serve the child or the society!

In all fairness, in that Autism is a spectrum disorder (ASD) then it would also hold true that some ASD children would feel little to no pain. Also, it could also be true that this minor was a high functioning individual and should and can be held accountable for his conduct (as per UC SF Professor and Developmental Psychologist and Director of Autism Clinic, Byrna Siegel).

As far as the police goes, they are sort of between a rock and a hard plece. They have a duty to both the community and the victim. Therefore, if a law was broken they responded. It is up to the DA's office to decide whether or not to prosecute [as well as for which offenses, if any].

Someone posted that the boy had ADHD, so sounds as if we don't have all the facts.

BTW, criminal records are not 'given' they are earned and criminal records refer to adult convictions as minors are dealt with in a different manner.

Guilty wrote:

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In all fairness, in that Autism is a spectrum disorder (ASD) then it would also hold true that some ASD children would feel little to no pain. Also, it could also be true that this minor was a high functioning individual and should and can be held accountable for his conduct (as per UC SF Professor and Developmental Psychologist and Director of Autism Clinic, Byrna Siegel).

Yes, it does also hold true that some ASD children would feel little or no pain. It also holds true that how they interpret touch is affected by multiple factors/stresses. For example, a child with ASD may have no problem with a touch when sitting watching TV, yet would respond to it negatively to the same touch while transitioning from watch TV to going with his parents to the store.

A high functioning ASD individual is very unlikely to be in a self-contained classroom for "severely" developmentally disabled and emotionally disturbed. Schools are required to educate disabled children in the least restrictive environment. A self-contained classroom is the most restrictive there is while on a general education campus. A high functioning individual is capable of functioning, with support and maybe specialize classes, outside of a self-contained. Every parent of high functioning ASD individuals I know, including myself, would fight having their child placed in a self-contained classroom.

Kano wrote:

It was a kid with ADHD, yes it is considered a mental disability but a dangerous one too, these kids are almost uncontrollable, they don't think of their actions, they could kill you in a instant and not show any remorse, as if nothing happened.

Like Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), ADHD is a spectrum disorder. The vast majority of people with ADHD do not have uncontrollable behavior. If you have a co-worker who does not seem to be able to function without continuous coffee, soda, energy drinks, etc. s/he likely has undiagnosed ADHD.

ADHD is often just the tip of an iceberg of disabilities. Anytime a child is diagnosed with ADHD they should be evaluated for a range of other disabilities (i.e. learning disabilities, ASD, bipolar, depression, etc). The more severe the ADHD the more likely it is the child has other disabilities.

If my daughter's psychologist had stopped at the ADHD diagnosis, we would never had gotten her proper treatment for high functioning ASD and she would not be almost fully integrated with minimal support.

Was the teacher the instructor for the anger management class or the conflict resolution class?