Police investigate fatal accident involving state trooper

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Larry

Waco, TX

#1 Oct 28, 2007
Ok here is a news flash! As a fellow police officer in another state there are several contributing factors that may have existed.#1 Was she possibly utilizing a cell phone?#2 What are you supposed to do when you see lights and hear sirens?(Most people I come up behind freak out instead of pulling to the right)Police officers are REQUIRED to pass on the left. I find it unlikely that the officer would be on a cell phone while driving in a coded mode. If you want proof that the officer had his emergency equipment activated,(as I am sure the collision reconstructionist have done) check his switch boxes in the cruiser. Unfortunatly no matter what type of person the girl was, if she was trying to turn left while a police cruiser was approaching from behind with systems activated, then she had some form of distraction in the car or was totally at a loss as to what to do when an emergency vehicle approaches. My prayes go out to her family and to the officer involved. Accidents happen and we as police officers put it on the line everyday. The general public must understand that in order for us to protect and serve them, then we MUST make exceptions to the rules. How would anyone feel if they were under attack in there home and the police just did the 30 or 55 mph speed limit, stopping at every light and stop sign along the way?
David

Brockport, NY

#2 Nov 1, 2007
your out of line.
Better Days

Fairport, NY

#3 Nov 3, 2007
I agree WAY OUT OF LINE!!!
Cops covering for cops will never know the truth.
Yes check the switch box have not heard one thing about this in the news yet.That will tell the truth for sure if he had lights on or not.
Another thing the speeds these cops are allowed to go to what ever call is $%$$%%^ nuts. I don't care if what the call is still have to travel at a safe
speed. The news said he hit car from the rear and turned over several times, several times how fast do you have to be going to flip that many times?
Remember the public may acted different to emerencgy situtions but it is the public that the cops serve, Don't forget that.
David-Shondas dad

Brockport, NY

#4 Nov 8, 2007
The Wayne Count D.A. will be releasing his report soon..I can say that the case will most likely go before a grand jury..top speed 126.
Better Days

Fairport, NY

#5 Nov 10, 2007
HMMMMMMMMM check this out not related but intersting.

Man sues Irondequoit police officer, town for wife's de

(November 10, 2007) IRONDEQUOIT Roger Lok has filed a lawsuit in state Supreme Court seeking damages in the wrongful death of his wife, Odette.

On Nov. 3, 2006, she was struck and killed by an Irondequoit Police Department cruiser as she was walking at the intersection of Culver and Heberle Roads.

The lawsuit, which was filed on Nov. 2, also claims that Roger Lok was illegally detained by Irondequoit police officers on the night of the accident and seeks damages for emotional pain and suffering caused.

The town of Irondequoit, Monroe County and Chad Rahn, the Irondequoit police officer who was driving the cruiser that struck Lok, are named as defendants in the lawsuit.

Rahn was placed on paid leave after the accident and did not face criminal charges in connection with it. Irondequoit Police Chief Richard Boyan said the officer has not returned to duty.

Papers filed with the Supreme Court say that Odette Lok was walking home from the house of her daughter, Monica Lauzier, when she was struck by the cruiser driven by Rahn.

When Roger Lok went to look for her, the suit says, he was detained at a police roadblock near the accident, interrogated in a police car and not given any information about his wife for several hours.

"He was told he couldn't leave," said Sheldon Boyce, Lok's attorney.

The suit contends that "the conduct of the Town's police officers constituted an unlawful arrest and detainment of Roger (Lok), causing him severe mental and emotional distress and anguish."

Monroe County is also named as a defendant in the lawsuit because it maintains the intersection where the accident occurred. Boyce said the adequacy of the lighting there is in question.

The town of Irondequoit and Roger Lok declined to comment on the lawsuit.
David-Shondas dad

Brockport, NY

#6 Nov 10, 2007
Better Days wrote:
HMMMMMMMMM check this out not related but intersting.
Man sues Irondequoit police officer, town for wife's de
(November 10, 2007) IRONDEQUOIT Roger Lok has filed a lawsuit in state Supreme Court seeking damages in the wrongful death of his wife, Odette.
On Nov. 3, 2006, she was struck and killed by an Irondequoit Police Department cruiser as she was walking at the intersection of Culver and Heberle Roads.
The lawsuit, which was filed on Nov. 2, also claims that Roger Lok was illegally detained by Irondequoit police officers on the night of the accident and seeks damages for emotional pain and suffering caused.
The town of Irondequoit, Monroe County and Chad Rahn, the Irondequoit police officer who was driving the cruiser that struck Lok, are named as defendants in the lawsuit.
Rahn was placed on paid leave after the accident and did not face criminal charges in connection with it. Irondequoit Police Chief Richard Boyan said the officer has not returned to duty.
Papers filed with the Supreme Court say that Odette Lok was walking home from the house of her daughter, Monica Lauzier, when she was struck by the cruiser driven by Rahn.
When Roger Lok went to look for her, the suit says, he was detained at a police roadblock near the accident, interrogated in a police car and not given any information about his wife for several hours.
"He was told he couldn't leave," said Sheldon Boyce, Lok's attorney.
The suit contends that "the conduct of the Town's police officers constituted an unlawful arrest and detainment of Roger (Lok), causing him severe mental and emotional distress and anguish."
Monroe County is also named as a defendant in the lawsuit because it maintains the intersection where the accident occurred. Boyce said the adequacy of the lighting there is in question.
The town of Irondequoit and Roger Lok declined to comment on the lawsuit.
I just read that this morining..thats a strange deal.

I'm trying to get info about the home invasion that happened the night of my daughters death..I dont think theres anycover up but i cant get any real info and i wonder why.
The trooper was going to back up a sheriff car who thought he had suspects...turns out he didnt...but i was also told by the D.A...that there was at lest one other sherrif car ther before the trooper hit my daughter while she was going home.

I just want facts.
Better Days

Fairport, NY

#7 Nov 10, 2007
I hope you get the facts because you deserve them and there is a fair judgement made. I read the news and hear something like this and sorry as it may seem all I can think of is all the times I saw cops speeding by my house at excessive speeds(30mph limit going 85+++) and wonder how those excessive speeds can be justified!
I hope for all of us that something good can come out of this and we the people can feel safe that it doesn't happen again.
Sorry for your family's loss.
David-Shondas dad

Brockport, NY

#8 Nov 10, 2007
Better Days wrote:
I hope you get the facts because you deserve them and there is a fair judgement made. I read the news and hear something like this and sorry as it may seem all I can think of is all the times I saw cops speeding by my house at excessive speeds(30mph limit going 85+++) and wonder how those excessive speeds can be justified!
I hope for all of us that something good can come out of this and we the people can feel safe that it doesn't happen again.
Sorry for your family's loss.
Well thank you...its people like you that can make a differance.

When the speeds get so high that it puts us and them at risk you gota wonder is it really nessacary to go that fast...speeds over 100 on rt-104 are way to high im my mind...the risk outweighs the benafits of getting there a few minutes faster.

This accident should have been avoidable.
Better Days

Fairport, NY

#9 Nov 10, 2007
Well said and don't give up on finding out the TRUTH.It will help someone else some day to not have to go threw the same or similiar pain that your family is in.
Again good luck to you and your family and BETTER DAYS ahead for all of us.
steve

New Kensington, PA

#10 Nov 14, 2007
cops, like anyone else, need to use common sense.
Jim

Penn Yan, NY

#11 Nov 29, 2007
Larry wrote:
Ok here is a news flash! As a fellow police officer in another state there are several contributing factors that may have existed.#1 Was she possibly utilizing a cell phone?#2 What are you supposed to do when you see lights and hear sirens?(Most people I come up behind freak out instead of pulling to the right)Police officers are REQUIRED to pass on the left. I find it unlikely that the officer would be on a cell phone while driving in a coded mode. If you want proof that the officer had his emergency equipment activated,(as I am sure the collision reconstructionist have done) check his switch boxes in the cruiser. Unfortunatly no matter what type of person the girl was, if she was trying to turn left while a police cruiser was approaching from behind with systems activated, then she had some form of distraction in the car or was totally at a loss as to what to do when an emergency vehicle approaches. My prayes go out to her family and to the officer involved. Accidents happen and we as police officers put it on the line everyday. The general public must understand that in order for us to protect and serve them, then we MUST make exceptions to the rules. How would anyone feel if they were under attack in there home and the police just did the 30 or 55 mph speed limit, stopping at every light and stop sign along the way?
In this case the officer was clearly out of control. He rounded a sharp corner at 126 mph which would of had him over on the left side going around the corner. When he turn to the left to avoid shonda is when he lost control spinning out and slamming her car from the rear. When the officer hit her he was sideways. It would not matter if shonda was on a cell, drunk, or high because she had her car in control and the officer didn't. The officer hit her at 83 mph and we was told by the da the officer was on his computer in the car which mean he would have to take his eyes off the road to read the screen. Shonda had no time to react to the officer because of his speed and the corner is only 800 feet to the intersection and at 126 mph there would only be a couple of seconds before the officer was right on her. We dont believe the officer in the United States have to stop at every intersection but we do expect them to use better judgement on the rate of speed they are using.( its only common sense ). Running high speed is only endangering other people on the road and if a accident happens you will not be able to make it to the sceen anyway. So you got no where fast !!!!!!
BETTER DAYS

Fairport, NY

#12 Dec 21, 2007
Any news about the out come of this incident???

Thanks in advance.

“Shonda, I Miss you”

Since: Dec 07

North Rose

#13 Dec 22, 2007
yes this is Shonda's Mom. The case was presented to the Grand Jury yesterday and they decided to not charge him with anything. What we should do now,,,I really don't know.It's nice to know there are people out there that care. Thank you so much for asking how this is going.
Vic

Conesus, NY

#14 Dec 23, 2007
Let's remember that a grand jury chose not to indict the trooper. This is not a case of cops covering for other cops.
nimbleh bimbleh

Penn Yan, NY

#15 Jan 18, 2008
screw it! lets all take a break from this bizz and play COPS AND ROBBERS!!

we can rear-end the robbers and they wont see us coming because we wont have our lights or sirens on. After all the crashing, we can say that we had to cut our buckles off and save the people we crashed into. Then we can waste 2 minuets reporting that another car was involved in our "Game of Cops and Robbers". After all that is done, we can then talk our way out of trouble and have our buddy troopers and sherrifs cover our PIG ASSES!

Too bad life isn't a game. Too bad it's too fragile, and too bad it was my mothers life that I'm talking about.
surprised-NOT

Rochester, NY

#16 Jan 18, 2008
To Larry- NEWSFLASH!! not all cops have their lights and sirens on while flying down the road- cuz a sheriff came inches away from hitting me when i was pulling into my driveway and he was going fast just cuz he can!!! and when a cop says "we'll get someone to you as soon as we can we are in the middle of a shift exchange" and it took 15 minutes and 36 seconds for someone to come and they weren't 5 miles down the road we got a problem. not all police are bad but let me tell you there are more rotten than good out there. and if that was your daughter that was killed i can bet you wouldn't be saying maybe she was on the cell etc. thats a disgrace!! no one has control like that going at such a high rate of speed!! That is totally UNACCEPTABLE!!! and cops do cover up for other cops!!! you should be ashamed !!!!!!!!!

“Shonda, I Miss you”

Since: Dec 07

North Rose

#17 Jan 18, 2008
NEWS FLASH FOR LARRY....I wouldn't expect you to go the speed limit nor would I want you to go 127...there is no reason on this earth for anyone to go that fast right before a curve knowning there is an intersection right after the curve..
ACC Rochester NY

Rochester, NY

#18 Feb 12, 2008
Use your head, this macho lunkhead was blasting over 120mph and they are making light of the fact that "he was only doing 80mph" when he hit her. Even if his lights and sirens were on, at that speed of 120MPH+ he was on top of her prior to her brain being able to sort out the information and react.

Emergency responders still are required to obey all traffic laws and rules of the road, the lights and sirens should not give them a "get out of jail free" card as it did in this instance!

More power to the family on the civil suit, where can I contribute?
Tyler Adams

Denver, PA

#19 Apr 22, 2008
this is shonda's child ty-bug. i want you al to know i hate all you FAT PIGS! i will NEVER forgive you. this is for you mom luv u lots :'(. luv u ash and grama <3!!
Tyler Adams

Denver, PA

#20 Apr 22, 2008
love u lots!!

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