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wettill10

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#81
Dec 15, 2011
 
Like anything in life, you get out of it what you are willing to put into it. Success in this program, as in life, comes with hard work, persistance, commitment and a positive outlook. When it comes to children, if there is any negativity involved, they WILL pick up on it.
I would think that if you are willing to pay alot of money for something, you would certainly read the contract and ensure that you do exactly what is suggested. My suggestion, if you decide to go with this program, is to be cosistant and, instead of finding reason why you cant do a procedure, find a way help your child become successful and do what is suggested. It really works if you work it.
However, if you want to pay that much money for an alarm and think you can just sit back, not do anything more, and wait for it to happen magically, well, good luck with that. How has that worked out for you so far? I believe, under those circumstances, you will also get what you put into it.
Me, I am very happy there is something out there that works, if it is followed like it should be.
For those of you who have signed up and are struggling. Keep in contact with your Case Director, keep on it, you will get through it and your child will be so happy you did this for them. I know its hard. It's really hard, but it is worth it in the long run. I know there are many of you out there that feel discouraged because you are doing everything to the tee and it seems worthless, but it's not. Believe in yourself and your children. You are doing better than you think, I can assure you.
No one should have to miss out on sleepovers, have to wear pull ups, feel like a failure, and feel like its hopeless just because their parents are not willing to put in the effort required to help them be successful.
For those of you who have all these complaints, but are not willing to put in the effort required to successfully complete this program, I have a novel idea. How about setting your children up for success instead of failure?
Clint

Orem, UT

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Feb 11, 2012
 

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beverly wrote:
But Mr. Draper, there is no further info to be found on your website! It is vague and every link results in a request for a brochure. If you can't be up front about what your treatment offers, why should people trust you?
I agree with you 100%. I don't mind paying $2000-$3000 if that is what it takes to help my child, but it will be to a true professional. But I will not pay that kind of money to a company who uses these types of sales tactics & business antics. On this feed there are three groups of people: 1: dozens of people that have been wronged by PI, 2: those of us who are researching it, 3: the majority of the other people on this site are employees of PI. It is blatant & obvious. They are the ones clicking "clueless" and "disagree" emoticons for anyone that does not praise PI. Here's an idea, how about you spend some of the effort you are spending trying haplessly improve your online image by actually improving your services. That is not likely to happen, because you are who you are. But this stuff is no secret and there are better companies out there that are doing it right. Do your research and you will find better. Pacific International will not be getting my money.
esmy

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#83
Feb 20, 2012
 
Chris982 wrote:
I finally got to read the comments that have been posted recently, interesting that those that were seeking help from this Company, now based on the negative comments they decided not to do it, ignoring the positive ones. I guess everyone that posts their good results, must work for the company, so they should be dismissed?
If I had done that when I also had my doubts, my daughter will still be wetting, but now more than ever I am very suspicious of those negative experiences, because the work involved is really (and I mean really), hard. How many of you gave up saying this won't work? I was as well as my daughter very close to quitting, but thanks to our case worker that gave us the encouragement we needed, we stuck to it and now we have a totally happy daughter enjoying her teenager years, something that just a year ago she was not doing.
So, I guess according to eeg, I wasted a ton of money because limiting juice and soda, buying a cheap alarm or just waiting for her to outgrow the problem is enough. Really? if that easy why so many teenagers and adults have the problem?
The "no lose end" contract, another really? No needed, just believe your clients will do as expected, not trying to break it and demand their money back after doing nothing?
The selling pitch 101.. they go to your house for free, how many times they should go to your house till you decide, who will absorb that cost? So "gimmicky" to say, you sign today is this price, but if we have to come back will be more expensive, because then we will have more travel costs? Is that so outrageous?
And the "secrecy" on their website, offering a FREE brochure, for you to decide first if you would be interested or not. You people would complain if you were given a whole speech over the phone, and at the end was not what you thought, that they wasted your time.
Only valid point made, the person on the phone was rude when someone wanted to cancel. I would have been upset and demanded to talk to a supervisor, people like that shouldn't work in customer service "anywhere".
I hope those of you waiting and buying the cheap alarms get the result you hope for. I paid a lot but I can not be happier with mine.
I think it was pointed out the rude "person" on the phone WAS the supervisor. Ms. Van Meter
Ronny Banada

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Feb 28, 2012
 

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I'm glad I found this forum! I started trying to train myself to wet the bed because I hated my roomates, so I'd fall asleep on the couch and wet the bed, or couch actually. Sometimes I'd just do it standing up and blame it on the dog. However, now sometimes when I get black out drunk (like 15-20 drinks in a night) I'll wet the bed. Do you think that Pacific International could help me break my bad habbit without having to change my binge drinking?
wettill10

Wisconsin Rapids, WI

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#85
Feb 29, 2012
 
Ronny Banada wrote:
I'm glad I found this forum! I started trying to train myself to wet the bed because I hated my roomates, so I'd fall asleep on the couch and wet the bed, or couch actually. Sometimes I'd just do it standing up and blame it on the dog. However, now sometimes when I get black out drunk (like 15-20 drinks in a night) I'll wet the bed. Do you think that Pacific International could help me break my bad habbit without having to change my binge drinking?
Sounds like a psychological and drinking problem rather than a true bed wetting problem. Maybe you should consider counseling or simply growing up.
wettill10

Wisconsin Rapids, WI

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Feb 29, 2012
 
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I think it was pointed out the rude "person" on the phone WAS the supervisor. Ms. Van Meter
I am sure there are people above this supervisor in the company who would like to know that Ms. Van Meter is rude and turning away potential costomers.
Tim

Mccall, ID

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#87
Mar 28, 2012
 
WOW!!!!!

What a great place to get opinions from all the people who have used and not used this Program

I have some very fond memories working for Mr. Drapper years ago 1975 or so. He is a hard taskmaster believe me and I don't doubt some people could find him to the point ALWAYS.

All I can say is you can try all the different ways to have your child stop bedwetting and some work and yes most outgrow it MOST. The children and adults I signed up for the program all completed and where dry. How do I know that we always got a report when they completed the program. The reps who call on you at your homes are out late at night and out at it again early in the mourning away from thier families. We where given 100's of people to call every week and I will admit it's a very emotional call always always always stop and think about the problem we are dealing with. How do I know what kind of problem it is because I was a Bedwetter myself till 13 yrs old and I had 8 younger brothers and sisters who didn't wet so You can imagine the humiliation I had to put up with growing up and You would think that my siblings would keep something like this to them selves oh no everyone at school knew my problem also. I could go on and on with the problems bedwetters face but I say one thing about the cost expensive yes(I will tell you MR. Drapper did a few for free yes free because they where really poor folks) there where also people we could not sign up because the parents would not commit to the program. But I never had a child who didn't want to start that night.
I'm just so glad I found this site what a great caring company and what a great bunch of people I helped.

Tim
SEMPER FI Mr. Drapper
mary

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#88
Apr 27, 2012
 
Chris982 wrote:
My family is researching this company, because we have a 14 yr old daughter with this problem, and we are at a point to try anything, I got to meet another family whose child was "cured" by this company, and I can tell you that many things posted here are true.
They also felt at first that it sounded like a scam, it was too much money, although much less that the amount some of you disclosed, the way of communication is very outdated, and it was not an easy program to follow. It took this family close to 3 yrs, and they were ready to quit more than once, but unlike what some of you say, they got the help they needed, including a study of their child diet and medication, they worked with their counselor and a manager, they got the help they expected and more, and that convinced us to keep with our research.
I find interesting and not at all negative like Heather seems to do, that people that worked for this company feel so strongly about what they do, they still took time to reply here. And if they have been in business 60 years (according to their website), how is that being a scam and a joke, they have not been put out of business yet?
Everyone is entitled to do as they please, but my family is going to contact this company, schedule a visit and judge by ourselves, we are more inclined to believe those with good results, rather than those out to smear some business, because things didn't work out for them,(and who knows why it didn't).
Hi Chris,

Did you follow through with the company? Did it work out?
Tami

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I wet the bed till I was 11 years old. My mom called PI and I'd say several weeks later I never wet the bed again and that was about 19 years ago. I'm assuming they offer financial help, cause my mom was a single mother working in a low paying factory.
wettill10

Wisconsin Rapids, WI

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Jan 9, 2013
 
Margrita J wrote:
Hello Bill,
I would be a little wary of this company because I believe they are a big sales pitch. Their program may or may not work--they say it's guaranteed to work within 4 months on average but could take a few years. And that makes me wonder if the child is not just growing out of it by then. A rep from PI sat with us for two hours--brought our impressionable 8-year-old into the sales pitch--and at the end of all that, sprung the $2000 bill on us. Well, that was out of our budget as I'm sure it would be for most people. And I think the scare tactics and guilt they put on the parents are really unforgiveable. We are good parents looking to help our child and they took advantage of that.
You shouold really get your facts straight. It is guaranteed to work withing 4 years (not 4 months)for those who actually do the work required. If you decide to buy the program, it will NOT work miraculously, you actually have to work at it.

My suggestion is to read the contract before you start making false accusations and be prepared to do the work involed. If you do those things, it will work. If you don't want to work (just some time each day is all that is required) dont buy the program or you will just be another one of the people who complain about spending money for a program they want to work without doing any actual work.
Mark H

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#91
Jan 10, 2013
 
We gave it everything we had for 6 months and it didn't work. The reason we quit was that the customer service was non-existent. They switched reps on us halfway through and someone dropped the ball. We lost $2300 and hope that this can save one family from doing the same. It was almost like they were glad we quit because their contract is "iron clad" and they knew they could keep our money.
Go figure?
wettill10

Wisconsin Rapids, WI

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Jan 10, 2013
 
Mark H wrote:
We gave it everything we had for 6 months and it didn't work. The reason we quit was that the customer service was non-existent. They switched reps on us halfway through and someone dropped the ball. We lost $2300 and hope that this can save one family from doing the same. It was almost like they were glad we quit because their contract is "iron clad" and they knew they could keep our money.
Go figure?
It's too bad that you gave up on your child like that. The only one who really pays for that is your child. I suspect the people who dropped the ball is the parents...typical. Customer service is certainly NOT non-existent. You sinply have to pick up a telephone, even if your "rep" is not available, there is always someone (another "rep") there to help you. If helping your child was that important to you, you would have done whatever it takes. Instead, it's way easier to blame someone else for YOU giving up on YOUR child when participating for a SHORT 6 months. If I threw that much money into something, I would certainly finish the program per the stated time in the contract and actually do what is asked. Then, if it didn't work, I would know I had a reason to complain and ask for a refund. I understand your frustration, however, six months is really not a long enough time to judge if it worked or not. Makes me sad when I see parents crush thier childrens hope for success.
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Jan 22, 2013
 
iwas told by rep if after 6months to ayear if wetting didnt stop they would refund my $2,600
Called after 10 months of hell and was told contract reads no refunds for 4 years, rep lied!!
wettill10

Wisconsin Rapids, WI

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Jan 22, 2013
 
eric wrote:
iwas told by rep if after 6months to ayear if wetting didnt stop they would refund my $2,600
Called after 10 months of hell and was told contract reads no refunds for 4 years, rep lied!!
It's really sad that so many people feel their reps lied. The truth is that anyone can request a refund at anytime they wish. They will not actually qualify fot the refund until they have PARTICIPATED for the time stated in the contract they signed when they signed up for the program. Please, please read the contract BEFORE you sign anything or at the very least very soon after so that there are no misunderstandings. That way you will be able to cancel your contract within the time stated in the contract.

I am very sorry to those out there who feel they are not being treated fairly. Protect yourselves and this obtains to all contract you might sign in your lifetime. READ YOUR CONTRACTS, UNDERSTAND THE CONTRACT. DO THE PROGRAM AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE CONTRACT. That way you will be protected legally as opposed to going by what you hear the rep tell you.

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Mar 30, 2013
 
They always told me, don't worry you will outgrow it, but the bedwetting problem continued into my teen years and then followed me to college. Still to this day, bedwetting episodes are occurring, and now 25 years old, I will try anything to get to dry. Am looking into this program and would like to know if any other adults have found success using Pacific International's program.
Concerned Parent

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#96
Mar 31, 2013
 
Pacific International will never give a refund. We also got transferred to a new counselor and then cut off from communication. We wasted $2500 on a company that should be downgraded by the BBB or shut down altogether. They are a big fraud and I will spend the rest of my life letting parents know this, because of how they treated us.

Stay away from them!
Mark H

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#97
Apr 1, 2013
 
I'm just warning all. They treated us poorly and would not refund any money. They make no effort to work with you, but rather site the legal ramifications of the contract that you have to sign. If this is called "Customer Service" so be it.
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#98
Apr 30, 2013
 
I agree with her I'm in the process right now and can't get anyone to help us. The piece of equipment is a rusted mess I've sent in report cards asking for a phone call and nothing! I believe the company is a fraud and I will be contacting better business. My advice don't do business with this company. If you do use a credit card you can charge back don't use their convenient financing plan.
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Replying to you might be a waste of time, as you will dismiss everything with a very easy "you must work there".
This is a very small community, so yes... around here every one has worked, knows somebody that works, even a couple families had a child in the PI program, so I think I have a fair idea of how they work.
And what I know is that it is not about selling (renting) you an alarm, this is to work with the person (case director) that is assigned to you, that's why the salesman stopped contacting you. You have to send some kind of report regularly, so they can tell you what to do next. Depending on how the child is doing, they send different instructions, look at their diets and what kind of drinks they have, etc....
They can not work with you if you don't tell them what's going on. It's not an easy process and they know that,(see Mila's message above), so they are in contact with their clients, and send letters to them when they don't hear back, till after a time of not getting replies,(those 3 months seem about right), they ask for the alarm back if you are not using it.
You said you didn't want to wait to see if it had worked, and just stopped. I find interesting that after paying all that money, you didn't contact this people yourself demanding help. You didn't answer either, what your lawyer said?
And I don't know if my statement was out of the sales pitch, I never got one so you might be right, but the fact is that I'm a mother of three and I feel exactly like that about my children, sorry if it sounded "phony".
As I said this is a very small community and I didn't like to see this company put down and called a scam just because you think so. I wanted to remind everyone, there is always another side to every story.
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Apr 30, 2013
 
eric wrote:
iwas told by rep if after 6months to ayear if wetting didnt stop they would refund my $2,600
Called after 10 months of hell and was told contract reads no refunds for 4 years, rep lied!!
Did you read your contract? I have learned after many years of working with people that people fix on only certain aspects of a coversation that they want to be true. I am not saying you are lying, the rep might have told you that, but I am not sure why they would tell you something different than what is in writing in plain sight on a simple piece of paper you are signing. I mean wouldn't that put them in a position of being found "lying" right in front of a person who had a different "truth" right in front of them in the contract they are about to sign? Wouldn't that be waisting their time and undermining their own integrety?
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Apr 30, 2013
 
Cbuck wrote:
I agree with her I'm in the process right now and can't get anyone to help us. The piece of equipment is a rusted mess I've sent in report cards asking for a phone call and nothing! I believe the company is a fraud and I will be contacting better business. My advice don't do business with this company. If you do use a credit card you can charge back don't use their convenient financing plan.
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Have YOU called them? If the person doesn't know what the exact problem is, how can they help you? Did you write to them that the equipment is "a rusted mess"? If I payed that much for a program, I would be taking it upon myself to call them until I recieved a resolution.

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