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Montana to feds: we dona t want your gun control

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GPM

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#260
Nov 5, 2009
 
What Bill wrote:
its about money
its about *disarming the police*
gun control laws have nothing to do with the public safety
Don't you mean "disarming everyone but the police"? According to the gun grabbers, the police are the only ones they trust to have firearms. They may not actually trust them, but they need them to enforce their wacky, Socialistic laws.

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#261
Nov 5, 2009
 
Bill Smith wrote:
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Do you have any evidence of this? This is nothing more than made up garbage by the bottom feeders of federal law enforcement, the ATF, or F Troop.
At least one person who was a resident at the Mt. Carmel campus was an FFL holder, and I'd heard in the past that there might have been upwards of three.
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They bought and sold used machine guns at gun shows, repairing and testing them at their property.
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The BATF(E) called several times to conduct an inspection, and Koresh invited them.
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The problem is that the BATF(E) never came around to actually visit the place.
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Then they (BATF(E)) made up the story that they were denied entry onto the property.
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Such a remark is specious simply for the fact that there were neither closed gates nor signs indicating 'no trespassing.'
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The BATF(E) went so far as to fabricate that Koresh was a wanted man, but they never undertook to actually visit the campus, or even accost him on the streets of Waco, where he frequented several stores.
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They have easily arrested him in public, and as much was revealed later in Congressional hearings.
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The fact is just this: They were lawfully dealing in class III weapons and the BATF(E) knew just that.
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Nov 5, 2009
 
Highlander wrote:
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At least one person who was a resident at the Mt. Carmel campus was an FFL holder, and I'd heard in the past that there might have been upwards of three.
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They bought and sold used machine guns at gun shows, repairing and testing them at their property.
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The BATF(E) called several times to conduct an inspection, and Koresh invited them.
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The problem is that the BATF(E) never came around to actually visit the place.
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Then they (BATF(E)) made up the story that they were denied entry onto the property.
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Such a remark is specious simply for the fact that there were neither closed gates nor signs indicating 'no trespassing.'
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The BATF(E) went so far as to fabricate that Koresh was a wanted man, but they never undertook to actually visit the campus, or even accost him on the streets of Waco, where he frequented several stores.
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They have easily arrested him in public, and as much was revealed later in Congressional hearings.
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The fact is just this: They were lawfully dealing in class III weapons and the BATF(E) knew just that.
Not to mention they made up the child abuse charges as well.
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#263
Nov 5, 2009
 
We gun owners routinely say to one another that we have the "right" to keep and bear arms. Honestly, though: what kind of "right" do we have if we are afraid to use it?

When we're afraid to make a purchase at a gun show, own an interesting collection of firearms, or effectively protect our own home and family, then we've already lost most of the right to keep and bear arms.

There is one federal agency whose job is to instill fear into gun owners and dealers. That agency is BATFE. And JPFO wants to give them the boot. We're even putting together a film production that we think will help deal a death blow to this rogue agency!
http://www.thegangmovie.com/
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#264
Nov 5, 2009
 
even ups told them that t araid was planned

the atf agent was visiting months before and told david that he would have trouble

before koresh took over the compound the dea had already been there and raided the place for a lab
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even ups told them that t araid was planned
the atf agent was visiting months before and told david that he would have trouble
before koresh took over the compound the dea had already been there and raided the place for a lab
And they chose to do a hostile entry rather than grabbing him in town on on the road. What wonderful (un)civil servants they are! Causing the murder of those poor INNOCENT children like that should have earned the leaders of that goat grope a long drop on a short rope.

I am ashamed of the State of Texas for not arresting those so-called federal law ENFORCEMENT officers and trying them for the multiple murders that they caused.
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the war between the states was over states rights.we need to get&keep the fed govt out of our lives.
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Nov 5, 2009
 
patch wrote:
the war between the states was over states rights.we need to get&keep the fed govt out of our lives.
Bingo!
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Nov 6, 2009
 
GPM wrote:
<quoted text>And they chose to do a hostile entry rather than grabbing him in town on on the road. What wonderful (un)civil servants they are! Causing the murder of those poor INNOCENT children like that should have earned the leaders of that goat grope a long drop on a short rope.
I am ashamed of the State of Texas for not arresting those so-called federal law ENFORCEMENT officers and trying them for the multiple murders that they caused.
well then you should know who len hariuchi is
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GPM wrote:
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I am ashamed of the State of Texas for not arresting those so-called federal law ENFORCEMENT officers and trying them for the multiple murders that they caused.
The Texas Rangers did do an investigation and found no evidence of any wrong doing by the Branch Davidians. Of course you don't hear about that.
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Bill Smith wrote:
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The Texas Rangers did do an investigation and found no evidence of any wrong doing by the Branch Davidians. Of course you don't hear about that.
oh ok now who know who we are dealing with
no one
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#272
Nov 6, 2009
 
What must be gleaned from Waco is, bottom line, the Federal Government, because of an over zealous Attorney General (Janet Rinno)trying to help a federal agency (ATF) get publicity and at the same time "drum up support" for more gun control (the assault weapon ban)got a bunch of women and children killed.

It must also be noted that our current anti gun Attorney General (Eric Holder) was the assistant AG during that time frame and therefore should share in the blame for all of those unjust deaths.
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Bruce V wrote:
What must be gleaned from Waco is, bottom line, the Federal Government, because of an over zealous Attorney General (Janet Rinno)trying to help a federal agency (ATF) get publicity and at the same time "drum up support" for more gun control (the assault weapon ban)got a bunch of women and children killed.
It must also be noted that our current anti gun Attorney General (Eric Holder) was the assistant AG during that time frame and therefore should share in the blame for all of those unjust deaths.
not the first person that has brought up his previous clinton
assignment
we may have heard his name back then
blaming him personally would be like blaming GW for
all the deaths in 911

oh wait ...911 was an inside job
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Nov 6, 2009
 
Bill Smith wrote:
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Not to mention they made up the child abuse charges as well.
Doesn't matter whether or not the child abuse charges were made up. To wit: Child abuse does not fall under federal jurisdiction, unless it occurs on federal property. The feds therefore can not charge anyone with child abuse unless it occurs on federal property, where the feds have jurisdiction. The charges were merely an unconstitutional excuse to do what was done.
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chad wrote:
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not the first person that has brought up his previous clinton
assignment
we may have heard his name back then
blaming him personally would be like blaming GW for
all the deaths in 911
oh wait ...911 was an inside job
Wake up Chad, I didn't blame him for anything. I am just bringing to attention the fact that part of the same "crew" that was a player in the Waco disaster is now back in power. I know that most socialist don't see that as a problem, but I do.
GPM

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community idiot wrote:
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well then you should know who len hariuchi is
That would be Lon Horiuchi, the FBI assassin who is also infamous for being the murderer of Vicki Weaver in Idaho.
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