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Correction to previous post, first sentence.

I had trouble saying, "You're RIGHT danny BOY"
Dan the Man

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So we know that Mitt Romney bullied gays when he was 18 years old. How did he behave as an adult governor?

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Romney Battled LGBT Anti-Bully Commission As Governor

Mitt Romney clashed with a state commission tasked with helping LGBT youth at risk for bullying and suicide throughout his term as Massachusetts governor over funding and its participation in a pride parade. He eventually abolished the group altogether.
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The Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth, created by Republican Gov. William Weld in 1992 in response to newly released statistics showing alarmingly high suicide rates among gay and lesbian teens, was designed to combat harassment in schools. It served at the pleasure of the state's chief executive. The commission funded Gay Straight Alliances in high schools and provided training and information for teachers.

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Additionally, Romney has said that if elected President he will fight for an anti-gay amendment to the US Constitution.

He wants to enshrine the RESTRICTION of civil rights into our Constitution. Stunning.

Americans have a VERY clear choice this November - an anti-gay bully or a President who stands up for minorities.
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Dan the Man wrote:
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Like I said, I believe that slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, and laws against interracial marriage existed because a majority wanted them.
You evidently believe that they existed even though a majority DIDN'T want them.
I think we're clear now. Thanks.
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Like I said, I believe that slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, and laws against interracial marriage existed because a majority wanted them.

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It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican.

In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans.

Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks.

And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's:

slavery,

secession,

segregation

and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.

The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks.

The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs.

It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools.

President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation.

Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military.

Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.
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RealDave wrote:
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You are deciding to deny certain rights under the law to a particular segment of our population. Discrimination? Bigotry as you thing gays as lesser beings?
The law doesn't care what your religion says. Marriage to government is like a contract that provides protects to those married & offers benefits such as social security & taxes, and by hospitals.
No one cares if you are personally against gay marriage. Just quit trying to legislate your views.
Did you get your moms permission before you posted this?
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Dan the Man
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For those who didn't know - Mitt Romney assaulted a gay kid when he was in prep school.

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Valerie Jarrett to Trump:

You Can Forget About the Obama’s School Records

White House senior advisor Valerie Jarrett said President Obama will not release his academic records, commenting a day after Obama put out his “long form” birth certificate and Donald Trump decided to press his luck by demanding Obama’s college transcripts.

“We know this is nonsense,” Jarrett said in an interview on The Joe Madison Show on SiriusXM on Thursday morning.

”He is almost 50 years old.

And he is president of the United States and I don’t think anybody will debate his intelligence and so now we do need to get serious…let’s just get serious…get back to focusing on what’s important.

Trump, on a birther roll as he explores a 2012 GOP presidential run, claimed credit for forcing Obama to finally release the “long form,” which proved what had been proved before–Obama was born in Hawaii.

Trump is now on another tangent, asking why Obama never released college transcripts and wondering how he got into Occidential and Harvard.
Ted

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Dan the Man wrote:
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I might gain credibility with YOU if I did that? LOL! You're funny.
For some reason you aren't concerned about discrimination against your fellow Americans based on sexual orientation. Can you explain that? Can you explain why you seek to deny homosexuals equal protection under the law?
Yes, you'd gain more credibility with ME if you reduce your lying and dishonest embellishments and you would not have to hear my 'pathological liar' accusations. I won't hold my breath waiting. Telling things truthfully seems beyond you.

Here is another danny BOY embellished, unfounded and inaccurate lie to support what you WANT to be true: "you aren't concerned about discrimination against your fellow Americans based on sexual orientation."

You fail to notice it's not the issues I comment on. It's your LIES about the issues.

My personal opinion is that it's hard enough to be happy in life without needless arbitrary barriers preventing couples--man-woman, man-man, woman-woman--from committing legally to one another. I believe that couples committing to each other is a good thing.

Your assumption and accusation that I "seek to deny homosexuals equal protection under the law" is wrong. But that's what you do. You regularly make arbitrary, inaccurate, embellished and unsupported statements.
Dan the Man

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Ted wrote:
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Yes, you'd gain more credibility with ME if you reduce your lying and dishonest embellishments and you would not have to hear my 'pathological liar' accusations. I won't hold my breath waiting. Telling things truthfully seems beyond you.
Here is another danny BOY embellished, unfounded and inaccurate lie to support what you WANT to be true: "you aren't concerned about discrimination against your fellow Americans based on sexual orientation."
You fail to notice it's not the issues I comment on. It's your LIES about the issues.
My personal opinion is that it's hard enough to be happy in life without needless arbitrary barriers preventing couples--man-woman, man-man, woman-woman--from committing legally to one another. I believe that couples committing to each other is a good thing.
Your assumption and accusation that I "seek to deny homosexuals equal protection under the law" is wrong. But that's what you do. You regularly make arbitrary, inaccurate, embellished and unsupported statements.
Oh, I see - you don't personally oppose extending equal rights to homosexuals, you just defend those who do. A distinction without a difference. What a typically cowardly position for you to take. LOL!

I do not lie. Every accusation you've made that I have lied has been nothing but a willful distortion of my words or claims that I've said things that I simply have not.

And I TOTALLY notice that you don't take positions on issues here. All you do is make dishonest personal attacks on me. I've said that over and over - your obsessive fixation on me is the whole reason you're here. It's your reason for being. Attacking me is what DEFINES you. I've been making that point forever, so it's nice to see you finally admitting it. Thank you.
Dan the Man

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If you simultaneously claim that what Mitt Romney did in high school is irrelevant while having a hissy fit that the President "eats dog" because it was served to him as a child ... you might have Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Dan the Man

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From Gallup...

Obama Has Big Likability Edge Over Romney

"Registered voters are nearly twice as likely to say Barack Obama, rather than Mitt Romney, is the more likable of the two presidential candidates. Obama's 60% to 31% advantage on this characteristic is the largest for either candidate on five separate dimensions tested in a May 1-2 USA Today/Gallup poll."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/154547/Obama-Big-L...

Previously from Gallup...

Favorable Ratings as Predictors of the Election Outcome

"A positive sign for Obama's prospects of becoming the 44th U.S. president is that the candidate who has had the higher favorable rating among likely voters at the end of the election has been elected president each time since 1992."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111439/Obama-McCai...

Still waiting for the rightwingers to describe Romney's path to 270 electoral votes, but none seem to be able to do it.

I'm also still waiting for a list of Romney's accomplishments. Nobody wants to attempt that one either.

When your own party doesn't much like you and can't muster the energy to advocate for you, there's really not much chance that you can get elected to the hardest job in the world.
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xfactor wrote:
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Both candidates (OBAMNEY) are megabank multinational corporate controlled minions.
Keep your little left/right media created banter going.
We once revolted against tyranny and now we're surrounded by it and the populace is either&#65279; stoned on some sort of anti-depressant,distracted by sports or celebrity antics, or too apathetic/complacent to give a shit.
Seeems you have to copy and paste someones opinion...cant you think of one of your own????
thus the #65279 that is inserted in your post!!!! Means you took it from an opinion site....and we all know opinions are like azzholes,,,,,,,everyone has one.
HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
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xfactor wrote:
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Both candidates (OBAMNEY) are megabank multinational corporate controlled minions.
Keep your little left/right media created banter going.
We once revolted against tyranny and now we're surrounded by it and the populace is either&#65279; stoned on some sort of anti-depressant,distracted by sports or celebrity antics, or too apathetic/complacent to give a shit.
So was Bush Sr and Bush Jr and Clinton and ,and and..........been that way for years...whats your point?

Business and corporations give money to their candidate......
Not even going the mention all the PAC money......
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RealDave wrote:
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You are deciding to deny certain rights under the law to a particular segment of our population. Discrimination? Bigotry as you thing gays as lesser beings?
The law doesn't care what your religion says. Marriage to government is like a contract that provides protects to those married & offers benefits such as social security & taxes, and by hospitals.
No one cares if you are personally against gay marriage. Just quit trying to legislate your views.
I'm not one who would deny gays to marry, as I've stated before. I can just understand the point of view of those who do not agree with it. I don't feel they are being bigots, I feel it is their right to feel the way they do, just as it is my right to think it should be allowed. But, I'm not going to call people bigots just because their point of view is different than mine. That is the problem that I have. There is no reason to be hateful and call them bigots.
Another thing, I don't see gay people as any lesser beings. I'll quit trying to legislate my views if you do the same.
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seems everyone has no problems with gays fighting in the wars we create??????
I never see someone holding a sign saying "GAYS SHOULDNT BE FIGHTING IN OUR WARS"!!!!!!!
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Guess it's OK to fight and die for your country but they cant marry??????????
sort of like an oxymoron statement......
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anyone remember back in the 50's and 60's when just about every white person denied black people from voting....they had to be seated in the back of the bus, couldnt use the "white bathrooms,water fountains, some store owners didnt allow the blacks to enter their stores..........were beaten like dogs in the streets.........NOW LOOK!
we were wrong back then and we are wrong NOW by not letting gay marriages ,it just shows that North Carolina has a ton of bigots in that state,,,,,whereas other states allow gay marriages.....hats off to those states.....I also remember when a black guy couldnt marry a white women and the white women was known as "trash"???
Its common today and more and more are doing that......some whites believe that Abe Lincoln was nuts for freeing the black man......no wonder a white racist bigot shot him.
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did-u-c-that wrote:
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I'm not one who would deny gays to marry, as I've stated before. I can just understand the point of view of those who do not agree with it. I don't feel they are being bigots, I feel it is their right to feel the way they do, just as it is my right to think it should be allowed. But, I'm not going to call people bigots just because their point of view is different than mine. That is the problem that I have. There is no reason to be hateful and call them bigots.
Another thing, I don't see gay people as any lesser beings. I'll quit trying to legislate my views if you do the same.
Would you have said this too?
"I'm not one who would deny BLACKS THE VOTE, as I've stated before. I can just understand the point of view of those who do not agree with it. I don't feel they are being bigots, I feel it is their right to feel the way they do, just as it is my right to think it should be allowed."

As Melissa Harris-Perry said this week, "Bigotry is the only basis for denying marriage equality. So, we should debate policy, we should debate which legislative plan we take. That's reasonable. But the basic rights of citizens should not flip and flop, they should not be erased like an etch-a-sketch at the whims of the intolerant. Our rights should be permanent, constant, and abiding."

If you remain on the sidelines on this issue, you are supporting the oppressors over the oppressed.

“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality."
- Bishop Desmond Tutu
Dan the Man

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Good Lord! What the hell is wrong with these people!

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Trayvon Martin gun range targets sold online

ORLANDO, Fla.—An unidentified entrepreneur admits he is trying to profit off Trayvon Martin’s death by selling gun range targets featuring the teen who’s death has sparked a nationwide controversy.

Although Martin’s face does not appear on the paper targets, they feature a hoodie with crosshairs aimed at the chest. A bag of Skittles is tucked in the pocket and a hand is holding a can resembling iced tea.
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The seller would not disclose how many paper targets had been made, but said in an email, "The response is overwhelming. I sold out in 2 days."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/news/Trayvon...
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What kind of sadistic bastard does this?

The Post article also describes another episode in which Mr. Romney was accused of mistreating a mostly blind teacher at the Cranbrook School.

In that episode, students recalled that Mr. Romney purposely guided the blind teacher, known affectionately as “the Bat,” into a closed door.
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Mon Valley Independent wrote:
What kind of sadistic bastard does this?
The Post article also describes another episode in which Mr. Romney was accused of mistreating a mostly blind teacher at the Cranbrook School.
In that episode, students recalled that Mr. Romney purposely guided the blind teacher, known affectionately as “the Bat,” into a closed door.
It seems the pattern for Romney was targeting the weak.

And that pattern hasn't changed over time.
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Hair Hacking: In 1965, Mitt Romney Hazed A Person Presumed To Be Gay By Holding Him Down And Cutting His Hair

This means Robney still hates the gay people..........just doesnt admit it.

Is this the real Mitt Romney? This incident, now that it has been made public, is an existential moment for Romney. He needs to speak to this. Does he regret what happened? Has he ever apologized to this person? Mitt Romney’s cut-throat cruelty and callousness here are striking. Absent a serious expression of sincere and utter regret, I certainly do not want such a character to be President of the United States.

If he tries to rationalize, deny, or minimalize this incident, it will speak volumes about him.

Would you ever do such a thing, taking from another person their freedom and dignity?

This was Mitt Romney, as an adult (he was 18 in 1965), holding down a fellow student, restraining him forcibly, shaming him before others, and physically defacing his appearance (hacking off his hair). It’s a wonder this didn’t result in the student committing suicide.

And, frankly, it says a lot about you that you would defend Romney’s behavior.

Worst of all, it says a lot about Romney that he’s already in bullshit mode on this, claiming he can’t recall such a brutal and psychologically warped action. If he doesn’t remember, it’s creepy. If he does remember—which he obviously does—it’s creepy how he’s responding.

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