Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CBS2

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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A little off topic, but did any one see the preview for The New Normal tonight? Ellen Barkin must have been reading Topix to study for her character...I haven't laughed that much in a long time.
I wanna see it so bad. It looks hilarious
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I don't know about that

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Your abusive personal insults fail to change the fact science has demonstrated it is the relationship between the parents and child that determines successful outcome, not the gender of the parents:
"Unfortunately, many people are not aware of the three decades of research showing that children of gay or lesbian parents are just as mentally healthy as children with heterosexual parents, notes Cerbone.
Children of gay and lesbian parents reported closer ties with their schools and classmates.
Patterson's and others' findings that good parenting, not a parent's sexual orientation, leads to mentally healthy children may not surprise many psychologists. What may be more surprising is the finding that children of same-sex couples seem to be thriving, though they live in a world that is often unaccepting of their parents."
http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec05/kids.aspx
"In summary, social science has shown that the concerns often raised about children of lesbian and gay parents' concerns that are generally grounded in prejudice against and stereotypes about gay people' are unfounded. Overall, the research indicates that the children of lesbian and gay parents do not differ markedly from the children of heterosexual parents in their development, adjustment, or overall well-being."
http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientati...
And two more that found they are just as good if not better:
"Overall, studies indicate that children raised with lesbian co-parents do just as well as children raised by heterosexual married couples. The children of lesbian co-parents may even have fewer behavioral problems and higher self-esteem." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35124737/ns/healt...
"Parenting by same-sex families is just as good -- if not slightly advantageous -- for children when compared to heterosexual families, a Justice Department study has concluded." http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story....
Hawaii Supreme Court testimony by those opposed to marriage equality:
"Dr Eggebeen (witness against marriage equality) also conceded that "gay and lesbian couples can , and do, make excellent parents" "that they are capable of raising a healthy child", and "that children of same sex couples would be helped if their families had access to or were able to receive benefits of marriage".
Dr. Charlotte Patterson: there was "no data or research which establishes that gay fathers and lesbian mothers are less capable of being good parents than non-gay people.
Dr. David Brodzinsky: The issue is not the structural variable, biological versus nonbiological, one parent versus two parent. The issue is really the process variables, how children are cared for, is the child provided warmth, it the child provided consistency of care, is the child provided a stimulated environment, is the e child given support.... and when you take a look at structural variables, there's not all that much support that structural variable in and of themselves are all that important.
Dr. Pepper Shwartz: "the primary quality of parenting is not the parenting structure, or biology, but is the nurturing relationship between parent and child."
Please show the specific studies and their research methods.

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The fact that children can do as well with same sex parents does not "negate the power of blood relationships". It only shows that is not the only relationship that can be valuable and result in success.
"But even if Congress believed at the time of DOMA's passage that children had the best chance at success if raised jointly by their biological mothers and fathers, a desire to encourage heterosexual couples to procreate and rear their own children more responsibly would not provide a rational basis for denying federal recognition to same-sex marriages. Such denial does nothing to promote stability in heterosexual parenting. Rather, it "prevents children of same-sex couples from enjoying the immeasurable advantages that flow from the assurance of a stable family structure, when afforded equal recognition under federal law." (Gill)
You know that the studies you are basing your assertions on are invalidated as having sample sizes too small, study periods too short and research methods that were clearly unscientific.
You negate blood relations by equating them with a relationship that duplicates one gender, eliminates another and is absent at least one biological parent.
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God did not give men penises and women vaginas for people to be gay.
God did this for a purpose and Homosexuality goes against the Lords purpose.
he only did it for reproduction and that was his only purpose. And god didn't make buttholes just for pooping :)

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God did not give men penises and women vaginas for people to be gay.
God did this for a purpose and Homosexuality goes against the Lords purpose.
I agree. I go by what my Bible tells me. people can accept it or not. It's on them, ultimately.

Leviticus 20:13

13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
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Nia_ wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. I go by what my Bible tells me. people can accept it or not. It's on them, ultimately.

Leviticus 20:13

13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
do you listen to everything the "bible" tells you?

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<quoted text>do you listen to everything the "bible" tells you?
I will follow the Bible before listening to you.
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<quoted text>I will follow the Bible before listening to you.
I'm not here to insult you nor should you insult me. God wouldn't want that. Now, do you have children?

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he only did it for reproduction and that was his only purpose. And god didn't make buttholes just for pooping :)
God could eliminate homosexuality with a wiggle of his nose or in the blink of an eye. And yet s/he chooses not to do so.

Did you ever wonder why?

Personally, I think he prefers to watch the haterosexuals squirm. It's probably very entertaining.
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<quoted text>God could eliminate homosexuality with a wiggle of his nose or in the blink of an eye. And yet s/he chooses not to do so.

Did you ever wonder why?

Personally, I think he prefers to watch the haterosexuals squirm. It's probably very entertaining.
I probably would be very entertained too haha
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<quoted text>He chooses not to because God gave manking FREE WILL to either follow his word or go against it. Period!!!!! Those who follow his word will live eternal life next to the Father . Those who Blasphemy or forsake his word shall surrender there soul to the Fallen Angel, Satn himself.
Mat god Forgive your homosexual kind, and maybe just maybe he may forgive you for your sexual sins through the forgiveness of his only son, Jesus Christ himself.
Homosexuality is Wrong, end of story...it is unnatural and nothing but a live porn show for Satans Gay Azz to watch.
who exactly said homosexuality is wrong?
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FDA: Gay Men Still Banned from Donating Blood Over Documented Risk Concerns

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WASHINGTON, D.C., Despite attempts by pro-homosexual advocates to paint the homosexual lifestyle as just another, normal, and healthy lifestyle choice, the FDA has renewed its 1983 policy that gay men cannot donate blood, due to the high-risk nature of living an active homosexual lifestyle.

This past Wednesday the FDA stated that, despite mounting opposition to the policy, it will for medical reasons continue to uphold its ban on men who live or who have lived an active homosexual life from donating blood.

According to the FDA, the ban is in place because,A history of male-to-male sex is associated with an increased risk for the presence of and transmission of certain infectious diseases, including HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

The FDA policy relating to homosexual men is unique in its severity. While there is a lengthy list of criteria by which a potential donor may be deferred from donating blood (such as visiting particular African countries), such bans usually expire after a certain period of time. The ban on homosexual men, however, applies to any man who has ever had sex with another man, even once, subsequent to 1977.

The Administration, however, argues that the strictness of the ban is justified, pointing out that the policy is intended to protect all people who receive blood transfusions from an increased risk of exposure to potentially infected blood and blood products.

Some, however, are arguing that the FDAs policy is discriminatory against homosexual men. Arthur Caplan, in an editorial for NBC6 argues that new testing technologies alleviate any fear that patients may contract AIDS by receiving a tainted transfusion.At one time, long ago, the gay-blood ban may have made sense. But it no longer does, he said.

If a man has sex with a high risk woman, hes allowed back into the donation pool after 12 months, complained Joel Ginsberg, the executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.If he has safe sex with another man, hes banned for life.

Recognizing that the area of homosexuality is a controversial realm, however, with pro-homosexual activists on the watch for any signs of discrimination, the FDA responded to accusations of discrimination in its updated official policy in the matter. The deferral policy is based on the documented increased risk of certain transfusion transmissible infections, such as HIV, associated with male-to-male sex and is not based on any judgment concerning the donors sexual orientation, reads the FDAs policy.

Surveillance data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate that men who have sex with men and would be likely to donate have a HIV prevalence that is at present over 15 fold higher than the general population, and over 2000 fold higher than current repeat blood donors (i.e., those who have been negatively screened and tested) in the USA.

Dr. Robertson Davenport, who is an associate professor of pathology at the University of Michigan Hospital, agrees with the decision of the FDA.The data are clear that men who engage in sexual contact with other men, as a whole, have a significantly higher risk of HIV, he said.Given our testing is not perfect, we will increase the risk to patients.

A number of European countries have similar bans pertaining to homosexual man. Canada also forbids homosexual men from donating blood, due to similar concerns.

Read the full text of FDA Policy on Blood Donations from Men Who Have Sex with Other Men:
http://www.fda.gov/cber/faq/msmdonor.htm
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who exactly said homosexuality is wrong?

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who exactly said homosexuality is wrong?
And the medical profession.

Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
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<quoted text>That would be me.

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FDA: Gay Men Still Banned from Donating Blood Over Documented Risk Concerns

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WASHINGTON, D.C.,– Despite attempts by pro-homosexual advocates to paint the homosexual lifestyle as just another, normal, and healthy lifestyle choice, the FDA has renewed its 1983 policy that gay men cannot donate blood, due to the high-risk nature of living an active homosexual lifestyle.

This past Wednesday the FDA stated that, despite mounting opposition to the policy, it will for medical reasons continue to uphold its ban on men who live or who have lived an active homosexual life from donating blood.

According to the FDA, the ban is in place because,“A history of male-to-male sex is associated with an increased risk for the presence of and transmission of certain infectious diseases, including HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.”

The FDA policy relating to homosexual men is unique in its severity. While there is a lengthy list of criteria by which a potential donor may be deferred from donating blood (such as visiting particular African countries), such bans usually expire after a certain period of time. The ban on homosexual men, however, applies to any man who has ever had sex with another man, even once, subsequent to 1977.

The Administration, however, argues that the strictness of the ban is justified, pointing out that the “policy is intended to protect all people who receive blood transfusions from an increased risk of exposure to potentially infected blood and blood products.”

Some, however, are arguing that the FDA’s policy is discriminatory against homosexual men. Arthur Caplan, in an editorial for NBC6 argues that new testing technologies alleviate any fear that patients may contract AIDS by receiving a tainted transfusion.“At one time, long ago, the gay-blood ban may have made sense. But it no longer does,” he said.

“If a man has sex with a high risk woman, he’s allowed back into the donation pool after 12 months,” complained Joel Ginsberg, the executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.“If he has safe sex with another man, he’s banned for life.”

Recognizing that the area of homosexuality is a controversial realm, however, with pro-homosexual activists on the watch for any signs of discrimination, the FDA responded to accusations of discrimination in its updated official policy in the matter. The “deferral policy is based on the documented increased risk of certain transfusion transmissible infections, such as HIV, associated with male-to-male sex and is not based on any judgment concerning the donor’s sexual orientation,” reads the FDA’s policy.

“Surveillance data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate that men who have sex with men and would be likely to donate have a HIV prevalence that is at present over 15 fold higher than the general population, and over 2000 fold higher than current repeat blood donors (i.e., those who have been negatively screened and tested) in the USA.”

Dr. Robertson Davenport, who is an associate professor of pathology at the University of Michigan Hospital, agrees with the decision of the FDA.“The data are clear that men who engage in sexual contact with other men, as a whole, have a significantly higher risk of HIV,” he said.“Given our testing is not perfect, we will increase the risk to patients.”

A number of European countries have similar bans pertaining to homosexual man. Canada also forbids homosexual men from donating blood, due to similar concerns.

Read the full text of “FDA Policy on Blood Donations from Men Who Have Sex with Other Men”:
http://www.fda.gov/cber/faq/msmdonor.htm
I didn't read that all cause I personally don't care. But it's funny you say gay people can't donate blood cause I did a few weeks ago. So stick that up your @$$ and like it. Make sure you have lube tho
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<quoted text>And the medical profession.

Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
it's not demeaning if the person wants it. I'm sure half the crap you shove down your throat is unhealthy.

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it's not demeaning if the person wants it. I'm sure half the crap you shove down your throat is unhealthy.
Oh sit on it!

Smirk.
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<quoted text>Oh sit on it!

Smirk.
I'll pass thanks. I like men. Not someone who is pretending to be a man.

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I'll pass thanks. I like men. Not someone who is pretending to be a man.
Oh come on, I'll bet you've done it countless times with countless men, right?

It can't still be demeaning, can it???
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KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Oh come on, I'll bet you've done it countless times with countless men, right?

It can't still be demeaning, can it???
just cause I'm gay doesn't make me a slut. I still have respect for myself. Don't confuse you being demeaning for you being stupid. I still think you should do the sex change.

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