Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

MUQ wrote:

Vague and False prophesies of Bible versus Clear and verifiable Prophesies of Quran and Prophets Sayings

What a filthy Liar!! Of course whoever wrote the Quran for Mohammad would say that. Funny how the Quran was written 790 years AFTER Christ appeared on this earth. How the hell does a writer for Mohammad (who happened to be illiterate) come up with this hogwash 1200 years later?? The bottom line is that no one knows for sure who wrote the Quran. It could have been Joe Blow down the street for all we know. When we consider the New Testament of the Holy Bible, we have today in our possession 5,300 known Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, another 10,000 Latin Vulgates, and 9,300 other early versions, giving us more than 24,000 manuscripts of the New Testament in existence today! Furthermore, a substantial number were written well before the compilation of the Quran. In fact, a total of 230 manuscript portions are currently in existence which pre-date 600 AD or 1200 years before the Quran was written! These can be broken down into 192 New Testament manuscripts, 5 lectionaries containing scripture, and 33 translations of the Greek New Testament. So what comparisons are there between the manuscript evidence for the Quran and the Bible? We know from the historical record that by the end of the seventh century the Arabs had expanded right across North Africa and up into Spain, and east as far as India. The Quran was the centerpiece of their faith and practice at that time. Certainly within that enormous sphere of influence there should therefore be some Quran manuscripts which still exist till this day. Yet, there is nothing from that period at all. The only manuscripts which Islam provides turn out to have been compiled in the ninth century, while the earliest corroborated manuscript is dated 790 A.D. or over 1200 years after New Testament manuscripts. Islam cannot provide a single manuscript until well into the eighth century. If the Christians could retain so many thousands of ancient manuscripts, all of which were written long before the Quran, at a time when paper had not yet been introduced, forcing the dependency on papyrus which disintegrated with age, then one wonders why the Muslims are not able to forward a single manuscript from this much later period, during which the Quran was supposedly revealed? This indeed gives the Bible a much stronger claim for reliability than the Quran.

MUQ wrote:

Vague and False prophesies of Bible versus Clear and verifiable Prophesies of Quran and Prophets Sayings – Part- 38

The Islamic Genocide Records of MUSLIM on MUSLIM killings:
- 50,000 Tajikistan, 1992-96 (secularists against Islamists)
- 40,000 Chad, 1982-90
- 25,000 Jordan government vs. Palestinians, 1970-71 (Black September)
- 20,000 Syria, 1982 (against Islamists in Hama)
- 10,000 South Yemen, 1986 (civil war)
- 16,000 Western Sahara, 1975-present
- 75,000 Iraq, 2003-present (domestic)
- 80,000 Iran, 1978-79 (revolution)
- 100,000 North Yemen, 1962-70
- 140,000 Kuwait War, 1990-91
- 150,000 Lebanon civil war, 1975-90
- 150,000 Liberia, 1989-97
- 300,000 Iraq, 1970-2003 (Saddam against minorities)
- 300,000 Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Turkey, 1980s-1990s
- 400,000 Somalia, 1991-present
- 200,000 Algeria, 1991-2006 (between Islamists and the government)
- 1,000,000 Iran-Iraq-War, 1980-88
- 1,100,000 Nigeria, 1966-79 (Biafra); 1993-present
- 1,900,000 Sudan, 1955-72; 1983-2006 (civil wars, genocides)
Nor is Iraq (Sunni versus Shiite) the only place where Muslim violence against Muslims rages unabated. There is Darfur in Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Algeria until recently, and hotspots in Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.

MUQ wrote:

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You are the biggest nonsense on this and other threads that you infest on!

That's real funny MUQ!! Biblical Scriptures were written a thousand of years before the Quran was even thought about but somehow in that clueless little Mussy mind of yours it's false satanic religion and the Quran is what?? There are no ancient copies of the Quran dating before 750 AD in museums. I challenge you to prove me wrong! Send us the name, locate and date of the Quran written earlier than the Bible. Muslims may be surprised to learn that, contrary to popular belief, the Koran actually says nothing about the corruption of the Bible. It may also surprise Muslims that historically, the first Muslim to trash the Bible was Ibn-Khazem, in 1064 AD. The Muslim word for God is "Allah". The fact that Allah is Arabic specific has been a real problem for Muslims to explain. After all, why would Allah, never reveal himself to anyone in the Bible? Abraham never heard God call himself Allah! So in desperation, Muslims actually try to find the word Allah in the Bible. Brace yourself for this, it doesn’t get more ridiculous than this!
Islam is intolerant and incompatible with all other religions: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will he be accepted of God; and in the next life, he will be in the ranks of those who have lost themselves and will burn in hell.(Qur'an 3:85)
This is why Islam is still a radical religion even today.

MUQ wrote:

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You are the biggest nonsense on this and other threads that you infest on!

No! You infest all the threads you post your ignorant nonsense!! Try telling the truth for a change!!

MUQ wrote:

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You are the biggest nonsense on this and other threads that you infest on!

The next lie you'll be telling us is how Mohammad performed miracles and raised himself up from the dead in three days!!

If jews and muslims were voluntarists there would be less.bloodshed.

John and Elizabeth Golub finally moved out of the Horror House where Kelly Ann Tinyes was found murdered in their basement. The new owner revealed that the hated couple moved to Pompano Beach, Florida. New York Post Article:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/item_SsEG6 ...

JUSTICE For Kelly Tinyes

Ayreshire wrote:

<quoted text>The next lie you'll be telling us is how Mohammad performed miracles and raised himself up from the dead in three days!!

If I had not decided to answer your posts, I would have posted a befitting reply to this idiotic post!

For the sake of internet hygiene, perhaps it would be better for all of us if MUQ went back on vacation.

Abolish the fed wrote:

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How is there too much to cover?
Ron Paul isnt even mentionef, even when he was in second place they didnt mention his name, thats nonsense.

HAve you noticed how crappy our local press is these days? Why would you expect the national press to be any better?

Lindy Urso wrote:

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I have provided links to mainstream sources for my claims - you, my horned friend, seem to just expect me to take your word for it, that the mainstreams sources are wrong. I don't know what field you are in - if any (since you seem to have quite a bitnof free time to make incited baseless assertions on Topix)- but you can't be very successful if your logical process is to respond to facts with opinion.

I would appreciate an answer to my questions as well (demagoging is another of your masterful debate tactics)- do you agree thatbAmerica should not put our troops in harms way in any sort of conflict with Iran, given that Israel is the flurry alleged to be in danger?

Since when is backing your assertions up with an OPINION collumn from Haaretz considered a source for your claims? Do you know the difference between OPINION and FACT?

Probably not is my guess.

America should do what it needs to do to watch out for its own interests. I thought I made that perfectly clear. That does not mean that there can not be circumstances where Americas interests and a foreigh country such as Israels interests cant parallel. This happens all the time in our world.

Lindy Urso wrote:

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If you don't think Ron Paul is ignored, you must living under a rock.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/...

I dont own a TV, so you could argue I do live under a rock. I get my news off of the internet and there has been enough coverage for me to understand and follow him.

Personally I wouldnt mind more coverage of him. He is such a loon, and has such an inherently racist background, that the more exposure he has the safer it will be for the rest of us.

CORRECTION

too many double negatives

"That does not mean that there can not be circumstances where Americas interests and a foreigh country such as Israels interests CAN parallel. This happens all the time in our world."

Frijoles wrote:

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I dont own a TV, so you could argue I do live under a rock. I get my news off of the internet and there has been enough coverage for me to understand and follow him.
Personally I wouldnt mind more coverage of him. He is such a loon, and has such an inherently racist background, that the more exposure he has the safer it will be for the rest of us.

If you looked at the Stewart pieces I posted, you'd see what we're talking about. It's quite obvious.

former res wrote:

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If you looked at the Stewart pieces I posted, you'd see what we're talking about. It's quite obvious.

I did. I respect Stewart. But we might not have a common frame of reference on this one as I do not watch TV.

Like I said in later posts, I have no problem following Ron Paul, anymore than following the Mitchenator or Santoryuck.

A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters

http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/98883/ron...

Frijoles wrote:

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I dont own a TV, so you could argue I do live under a rock. I get my news off of the internet and there has been enough coverage for me to understand and follow him.
Personally I wouldnt mind more coverage of him. He is such a loon, and has such an inherently racist background, that the more exposure he has the safer it will be for the rest of us.

Lot of opinion there, why dont you go ahead and back your claim that he is a racist loon, or is he a loony racist?

10 Shocking Quotes From Ron Paul’s Newsletters

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/10-...

1.“Order was only restored in LA when it came time for the blacks to collect their welfare checks. The ‘poor’ lined up at the Post Office to get their handouts (since there were no deliveries)— and then complained about slow service.”-Report on LA riots, June 1992

2.“I’ve been told not to talk, but these stooges don’t scare me. Threats or no threats, I’ve laid bare the coming race war in our big cities. The federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS (my training as a physician helps me see through this one.)”-Direct mail ad promoting Paul’s newsletters, written from Paul’s perspective, 1993

3.“It is human nature that like attracts likes. But whites are not allowed to express this same human impulse. Except in a de facto sense, there can be no white schools, white clubs, or white neighborhoods. The political system demands white integration, while allowing black segregation.”-‘The Disappearing White Majority,’ January 1993

4.“I miss the closet. Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities. They could also not be as promiscuous. Is it any wonder the AIDS epidemic started after they ‘came out of the closet,’ and started hyper-promiscuous sodomy?”-June 1990

5.“Whether [the 1993 World Trade Center bombing] was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.”-‘The New York Bombing,’ April 1993

6.“An ex-cop I know advises that if you have to use a gun on a youth, you should leave the scene immediately, disposing of the wiped off gun as soon as possible. Such a gun cannot, of course, be registered to you, but one bought privately (through the classifieds, for example).”‘Blast ‘Em’, October 1992

7.“The opposition will do its best to provoke some precipitous action on on our part to discredit us and our cause. Follow the orders of Captain Parker at Lexington: Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”-Militia’s 10-point advice to other militias, January 1995.

8.“When the New Money is imposed, every American family must have a Survival Kit of highly liquid, small-denomination silver and gold coins for hand-to-hand use. The Ron Paul Survival Kit — now an industry standard — comes in an official World War II US Army ammo holder.”-Ad for ‘The Original Famous Ron Paul Survival Kit,’ undated

9.“[Martin Luther King, Jr.], the FBI files reveal, was not only a world-class adulterer, he also seduced underage girls and boys…And we are supposed to honor this ‘Christian minister’ and lying socialist satyr with a holiday that puts him on par with George Washington?”-December 1990

10.“It turns out that the brilliant [Bobby Fischer], who has all the makings of an American hero, is very politically incorrect on Jewish questions, for which he will never be forgiven, even though he is a Jew. Thus we are not supposed to herald him as the world’s greatest chess player.”-November 1992, background on Fischer’s “politically incorrect” views (which include Holocaust denial) here.

Frijoles wrote:

A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/98883/ron...

Who wrote the actual atrticle?

Frijoles wrote:

A Collection of Ron Paul’s Most Incendiary Newsletters
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/98883/ron...

Wow, talk about a bomb-thrower. This helps me understand his followers much better.