Who do you support for U.S. Senate in Missouri in 2010?

Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:

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You probably were attempting to make some sort of a point here.
However, when you imply that independent voters decide the outcome, you are simply incorrect.
Even your numbers show little difference in the opinions of independents regarding Obama and Romney. So how is your well-thought-out-point going to make any difference? Basically it is a wash, thus demolishing your "independent voters decide the outcome" hypothesis.
But thanks for showing your assumptions wrong.

Unlike you I am not hard core to either side, and I voted for OBOMBhead in 2008; however, he has proven to be a terrible leader, and I will not vote for him again. There are many (not a majority) democrats who will not be voting for him in November, as well. Unlike you, they are not closed minded and can see what he is NOT doing for the economy. You can rant all you want, and I am not here to try to convince you of anything. Being a stubborn A$$ like you are keeps you in misery, but that's your problem and obviously enjoy misery!!

Good point !
The report I received states this took place in
North Korea !
It was stated that the light color car was hit by another car on top the hill which in return directed the light color car down toward the path of the box truck !
I seen another video of this showing the video in slow motion!

Hmm

Strong Proud Conservative wrote:

Have you ever noticed how when a liberal gets backed into a corner, they start cursing and calling names? Then they turn around and accuse us conservatives of being "hateful" and "angry".

You are so 100% correct!!

Case in point the post after yours, "suck at"

It should only take about 10 minutes of reading on this thread to see the condescending and sometimes immature responses by the primary posters to this forum. I prefer discussion where there is equal respect for the opinions of others and intelligent conversation. Being called, "clueless," "dear," or condescended to is not a response I expect from an intelligent individual.

At the same point, there are supposed conservatives who also respond in much more inflammatory and insulting ways which is unnecessary. But then again it is a public forum so play or stay home I suppose.

Sure wrote:

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My point is neither one of them have a plan that entices the independent voters. And yes, whoever swings the independent voters to their side will win; therefore the independent voters WILL decide the election.

Great post.

Juan Valdez wrote:

<quoted text>This really has me pissed off! What a slap in the face to EVERY man or woman that has ever served this country in the military! How could ANY veteran (conservative or not) vote for this guy. This has got to make you SICK.

I agree that any veteran deserves the greatest of respect and the best of care and benefits from the country they served and it's citizens. I don't like Romneys comments either, but there are some other things I don't like.

I don't like that Clinton did not serve (although he was a good president).

I don't like that President Obama refuses to place his hand on his chest to this day during the pledge or playing of our nations anthem (don't start, I know he has the right not to).

I don't like that he allowed pictures to be taken of himself at the airport when the bodies of the service people killed in Afghanistan were unloaded from the plane when returning home even at the specific request of the family for those pictures not be taken.

Sure wrote:

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Unlike you I am not hard core to either side, and I voted for OBOMBhead in 2008; however, he has proven to be a terrible leader, and I will not vote for him again. There are many (not a majority) democrats who will not be voting for him in November, as well. Unlike you, they are not closed minded and can see what he is NOT doing for the economy. You can rant all you want, and I am not here to try to convince you of anything. Being a stubborn A$$ like you are keeps you in misery, but that's your problem and obviously enjoy misery!!

That's the way. You tell 'em! They won't listen to me.

CHEERS!

KeelysMom wrote:

<quoted text>You are so 100% correct!!

Case in point the post after yours, "suck at"

It should only take about 10 minutes of reading on this thread to see the condescending and sometimes immature responses by the primary posters to this forum. I prefer discussion where there is equal respect for the opinions of others and intelligent conversation. Being called, "clueless," "dear," or condescended to is not a response I expect from an intelligent individual.

At the same point, there are supposed conservatives who also respond in much more inflammatory and insulting ways which is unnecessary. But then again it is a public forum so play or stay home I suppose.

Great point!

Sure wrote:

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My point is neither one of them have a plan that entices the independent voters. And yes, whoever swings the independent voters to their side will win; therefore the independent voters WILL decide the election.

Ah, how simple it is, in the world of the simple-minded.

Sure wrote:

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When times are tough, as they are now in this poor economy, one should be conservative and not waste. When you are low on funds, it isn't the time to charge charge charge on the credit card. It's time to buy cheap, drive less, spend less, etc. But maybe in your household you do it differently.....spend what you do not have. There will be a day come when you either have to pay off that high debt or file bankruptcy. I don't see why our government shouldn't apply these same principals as we do in our own households. I can say I have cut way back on my spending (especially the "desired" items), and I am surviving. Just for curiosity, how do you handle your spending in this poor economy? Have you had to make some personal changes in the way you spend and travel?

I can't complain. Business has been good. I see the effects of an increasingly better economy reflected in my pay and bonuses. I know it is not the same for everyone, but I don't see the gloom and doom, that is preached by others. Actually, I have been very conservative with my spending since several years before the bursting of the bubbles. When I say that, I mean I spend money, but on quality rather than quantity. My spending has not changed from before the economic collapse. I have a friend that is highly conservative both politically as well as financially and he is not a good model for how to live well. It works only because he has just himself to worry about. On paper he is easily a millionaire and he drives around in a 12 year, rusting Mazda truck. He doesn't have to. He chooses to. He would be all for cutting government spending to the bone, because it works for him. His needs are much more spartan than most. That is not a way to run a country any more than spending like mad. Of course we are talking about under normal condidtions.

What proof is there that using household finance strategy is the best model for the national economy? I don't see anything wrong with cutting back, but cutting your nose off to spite your face is what is being suggested by Republicans. Wealthy people will tell you that you have to spend money to make money. We are starting to slowly come out of the financial morass this country has been in. I am not completely thrilled with Obama, but I know what got us into this situation and I would rather have Obama trying to fix it even slowly than sink deeper by bringing back the party that put us here in the first place.

Sure wrote:

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When times are tough, as they are now in this poor economy, one should be conservative and not waste. When you are low on funds, it isn't the time to charge charge charge on the credit card. It's time to buy cheap, drive less, spend less, etc. But maybe in your household you do it differently.....spend what you do not have. There will be a day come when you either have to pay off that high debt or file bankruptcy. I don't see why our government shouldn't apply these same principals as we do in our own households. I can say I have cut way back on my spending (especially the "desired" items), and I am surviving. Just for curiosity, how do you handle your spending in this poor economy? Have you had to make some personal changes in the way you spend and travel?

When times are tough, I can see tightening the belt. These were not tough times. They were nearly disasterous and for many completely disasterous. You all want fast food, broad spectrum, instant fixes. Look how long the Great Depression took to fix.

I am optimistic. This country has gone through a lot in 236 years and will again. We have risen above a lot of problems, but not overnight. We didn't do it by hinding out with our heads burried in sand.

Sure wrote:

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Unlike you I am not hard core to either side, and I voted for OBOMBhead in 2008; however, he has proven to be a terrible leader, and I will not vote for him again. There are many (not a majority) democrats who will not be voting for him in November, as well. Unlike you, they are not closed minded and can see what he is NOT doing for the economy. You can rant all you want, and I am not here to try to convince you of anything. Being a stubborn A$$ like you are keeps you in misery, but that's your problem and obviously enjoy misery!!

I do not enjoy being in misery enough to vote for Romney, who has shown amply during the primary that he does not care for the American worker -- the "middle class." He was born into the "1%" and Romney intends to stay there and to keep his rich buddies there, regardless of what his economic policies will do to this country.

(Or perhaps you would like to tell us how wonderful "Romney-Care" is, which is identical to "Obama-Care." Tough for you to tell us how "terrible" President Obama has been, when Romney did the very same thing in Massachusetts.)

Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:

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Name one "government-ran socialist program" which the president has implemented. There are none. You are merely a propagandist. I doubt even YOU believe what you post on here.

Next to creating a myth about his birth and religion this is one of the biggest and best pieces of successfull propaganda put forward by the Right. Obama is no more a socialist than any random American. I wouldn't waste a minute worrying about it.

Young Person wrote:

Good point !
The report I received states this took place in
North Korea !
It was stated that the light color car was hit by another car on top the hill which in return directed the light color car down toward the path of the box truck !
I seen another video of this showing the video in slow motion!

I will agree that this could have been in another country, although the overhead highway signs are a lot like US Interstate signage. I could not read the signs. I do not recognize the language, but it is not Japanese or English or Russian or German or Spanish or French. I will give you that it sounds "oriental." I would be a bit surprised that the video was shot in North Korea, though.

I have watched the video several times in slow-motion and the final few seconds are horrible to watch. The second impact was essentially a head-on of the dash cam car with the light-colored car and the cab of the truck.

KeelysMom wrote:

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You are so 100% correct!!
Case in point the post after yours, "suck at"
It should only take about 10 minutes of reading on this thread to see the condescending and sometimes immature responses by the primary posters to this forum. I prefer discussion where there is equal respect for the opinions of others and intelligent conversation. Being called, "clueless," "dear," or condescended to is not a response I expect from an intelligent individual.
At the same point, there are supposed conservatives who also respond in much more inflammatory and insulting ways which is unnecessary. But then again it is a public forum so play or stay home I suppose.

I see it the other way. The poster you are referring to has no respect for anyone with beliefs other than his own. He gets a measured response proportional to that which he provides.

You are correct and I agree with you. It is an open forum and sometimes in the United States our opinions are expressed in a robust language not amenable to the faint at heart. As objectively as I can state, it does seem to me that the more inflammatory posts come from those claiming a conservative view. Not all but some of the very vocal people on here fit that model. SPC isn't vulgar, but he is condescending and likes to feel he is more intelligent than everyone else on here. He has, for reasons of his own, revealed to us that he has an IQ exceeding 160 and is 1/8 native American. He did this without prompting and for no other reason than bragging. Apparently, he feels this tidbits will provide him what his failed arguments have not.

KeelysMom wrote:

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You are so 100% correct!!
Case in point the post after yours, "suck at"
It should only take about 10 minutes of reading on this thread to see the condescending and sometimes immature responses by the primary posters to this forum. I prefer discussion where there is equal respect for the opinions of others and intelligent conversation. Being called, "clueless," "dear," or condescended to is not a response I expect from an intelligent individual.
At the same point, there are supposed conservatives who also respond in much more inflammatory and insulting ways which is unnecessary. But then again it is a public forum so play or stay home I suppose.

You are correct, "dear"! One should not be condescended to by an intelligent individual. Thus, thanks for pointing out that you are not an intelligent individual.

Have a nice day!-- Yours truly -- "Gramps"! ROFL!_8-)

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/mountain-grov...

KeelysMom wrote:

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I agree that any veteran deserves the greatest of respect and the best of care and benefits from the country they served and it's citizens. I don't like Romneys comments either, but there are some other things I don't like.
I don't like that Clinton did not serve (although he was a good president).
I don't like that President Obama refuses to place his hand on his chest to this day during the pledge or playing of our nations anthem (don't start, I know he has the right not to).
I don't like that he allowed pictures to be taken of himself at the airport when the bodies of the service people killed in Afghanistan were unloaded from the plane when returning home even at the specific request of the family for those pictures not be taken.

Why do you persist in propagating these falsehoods? Oh -- I know! Because you are dedicated to the removal of President Obama from office for political reasons, and you have falsely attacked him, his place of birth, his birth certificate, his father, his mother, his uncle, his grandmother, his wife, and his children.

I know that you will refuse to watch this video, which addresses those very concerns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I do not care. I am providing the link to the video to show OTHERS that you are incorrect in your statements. Your attacks are sort of a "Swift-Boating" by lies and innuendos. You Neo-CONS have attacked the president viciously on a daily basis. I have no illusions that you will suddenly quit at this point in his term of office. WIN! AT ANY PRICE! LIES INCLUDED! That is your goal!

Here is a video more to the point of watching President Obama performing the Pledge of Allegiance. Are his shoes perhaps not polished correctly? This 2008 video puts the lie to your allegation that, TO THIS DAY, President Obama does not place his hand on his chest during the Pledge of Allegiance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

While you are at it, listen to the President when he addressed the families of the soldiers murdered at Fort Hood, Texas. This particular video clip does not include the Star Spangled Banner, or the Pledge of Allegiance, but you can be sure that our president performed those services correctly. Further, you can hear in his voice his great respect for those in the armed services of these United States of America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:

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I will agree that this could have been in another country, although the overhead highway signs are a lot like US Interstate signage. I could not read the signs. I do not recognize the language, but it is not Japanese or English or Russian or German or Spanish or French. I will give you that it sounds "oriental." I would be a bit surprised that the video was shot in North Korea, though.
I have watched the video several times in slow-motion and the final few seconds are horrible to watch. The second impact was essentially a head-on of the dash cam car with the light-colored car and the cab of the truck.

I Reread my notes and it took place in South Korea ,not North Korea as I previously stated !
Regardless of where, when and why, I will be researching these type of scenarios in the future !

Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:

<quoted text>Why do you persist in propagating these falsehoods? Oh -- I know! Because you are dedicated to the removal of President Obama from office for political reasons, and you have falsely attacked him, his place of birth, his birth certificate, his father, his mother, his uncle, his grandmother, his wife, and his children.

I know that you will refuse to watch this video, which addresses those very concerns:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I do not care. I am providing the link to the video to show OTHERS that you are incorrect in your statements. Your attacks are sort of a "Swift-Boating" by lies and innuendos. You Neo-CONS have attacked the president viciously on a daily basis. I have no illusions that you will suddenly quit at this point in his term of office. WIN! AT ANY PRICE! LIES INCLUDED! That is your goal!

Here is a video more to the point of watching President Obama performing the Pledge of Allegiance. Are his shoes perhaps not polished correctly? This 2008 video puts the lie to your allegation that, TO THIS DAY, President Obama does not place his hand on his chest during the Pledge of Allegiance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

While you are at it, listen to the President when he addressed the families of the soldiers murdered at Fort Hood, Texas. This particular video clip does not include the Star Spangled Banner, or the Pledge of Allegiance, but you can be sure that our president performed those services correctly. Further, you can hear in his voice his great respect for those in the armed services of these United States of America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

You have your agenda and others have theirs.
Agendas can be slated in various directions depending on ones needs; videos, etc. the same way.
I gather there must be a great deal of idle time for those who continue their bantering as if there will be a conclusion that satisfies all.

DanFromSmithville wrote:

<quoted text>Next to creating a myth about his birth and religion this is one of the biggest and best pieces of successfull propaganda put forward by the Right. Obama is no more a socialist than any random American. I wouldn't waste a minute worrying about it.

Personally, I do not waste a minute wondering whether President Obama is a "socialist." He is not. There is no shred of evidence that he is.

From a "political" standpoint, I DO worry about the issue of President Obama's "socialism." The Neo-CON propaganda machine has unfairly and incorrectly attacked the president on the issue of "socialism" since he took office.

The Neo-CONs have learned their lessons well from Herr Doktor Paul Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's Propaganda Minister: Pick a lie, and REPEAT! REPEAT! REPEAT!

The sad thing is that there are people, like for example "Norton," who are more than willing to believe these lies. In order for a democracy to survive, it requires educated citizens who can think logically, and not be misled by these propagandistic "urban legends."