Lake St. Louis Living

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BLP

Saint Peters, MO

#1 Mar 10, 2011
I am interested in moving my family to Lake St. Louis in the near future. We are interested in finding a property on the lake.

I would like to hear from residence on the quality of life in LSL.
Any information on neighborhoods, schools, highlights and low lights of the area would be greatly appreciated.
john

Saint Peters, MO

#2 Mar 11, 2011
BLP wrote:
I am interested in moving my family to Lake St. Louis in the near future. We are interested in finding a property on the lake.
I would like to hear from residence on the quality of life in LSL.
Any information on neighborhoods, schools, highlights and low lights of the area would be greatly appreciated.
well if you like everybody telling you how your yard & house should look go ahead & move there. i would prefer living in the country were people leave you alone.
BLP

Saint Peters, MO

#3 Mar 12, 2011
Thanks John. This is exactly the answers I am looking for. I currently live on acreage in the country so moving into a suburb might be a cultural shock for my family.

How picky are the authorities? Can you share examples?
john wrote:
<quoted text>well if you like everybody telling you how your yard & house should look go ahead & move there. i would prefer living in the country were people leave you alone.
Darwin

Troy, MO

#4 Mar 12, 2011
BLP, they are picky, depending who you are. The city has many rules, but the worst is the Community Association. The city will drop some things because they may conflict with he desires of the CA. And they know the CA will not give a break, unless you are in the 'IN' crowd.

If you have a business of your own, don't think you can park the vehicle outside if it has graphics or words on it to support your business. Don't plan on a fence, they are not legal. If you have a tree on your property in Lake St. Louis, you can't cut it down until the City Arborist grants approval. Then there is the ongoing vandalism- flat tires, spray painted vehicles, mail boxes run over, lawns driven through. Vehicle break-ins,........
Lsl

Saint Peters, MO

#5 Mar 12, 2011
We have lived here a few years- no problems with the city concerning rules of any kind and I've never had any trouble with crime, or heard my neighbors complain of any. I haven't noticed anything negative and a few things are much better than our experience in ofallon.
john

Saint Peters, MO

#6 Mar 12, 2011
Darwin wrote:
BLP, they are picky, depending who you are. The city has many rules, but the worst is the Community Association. The city will drop some things because they may conflict with he desires of the CA. And they know the CA will not give a break, unless you are in the 'IN' crowd.
If you have a business of your own, don't think you can park the vehicle outside if it has graphics or words on it to support your business. Don't plan on a fence, they are not legal. If you have a tree on your property in Lake St. Louis, you can't cut it down until the City Arborist grants approval. Then there is the ongoing vandalism- flat tires, spray painted vehicles, mail boxes run over, lawns driven through. Vehicle break-ins,........
theres nothing more i can say. you said it all.
john

Saint Peters, MO

#7 Mar 12, 2011
BLP wrote:
Thanks John. This is exactly the answers I am looking for. I currently live on acreage in the country so moving into a suburb might be a cultural shock for my family.
How picky are the authorities? Can you share examples?
<quoted text>
i live in st. peters & thats bad enough. would like to trade properties???????? p.s. i had family & friends that lived there.
BLP

Saint Peters, MO

#8 Mar 13, 2011
Thank you for all the good information.
Beagle

New York, NY

#9 Mar 15, 2011
I've lived in LSL for more that 20 years. The community provides a unique, and special quality of life. Lots to do, and very nice people. Yes, there are restrictions that are intended to protect that quality of life, and not everyone likes to live under those rules. Having lived all over the country before building our home in LSL, I appreciate that to community has established groundrules to keep things looking nice. If you want to live the "country" lifestyle, this might not be the community for you, unless you buy one of the larger parcels (non-urban) with fewer rules. If you are a boater, golfer, tennis player, or just like to keep busy, then you should consider LSL.
Woof

O Fallon, MO

#10 Jun 10, 2011
Beagle wrote:
I've lived in LSL for more that 20 years. The community provides a unique, and special quality of life. Lots to do, and very nice people. Yes, there are restrictions that are intended to protect that quality of life, and not everyone likes to live under those rules. Having lived all over the country before building our home in LSL, I appreciate that to community has established groundrules to keep things looking nice. If you want to live the "country" lifestyle, this might not be the community for you, unless you buy one of the larger parcels (non-urban) with fewer rules. If you are a boater, golfer, tennis player, or just like to keep busy, then you should consider LSL.
I agree with this letter. There are very nice people here and the amenities are very nice. There are some clubs which are great for young families and kids and LOTS of stuff for seniors if you are retired. However, in my opinion and experience living here, the City does not enforce the codes in a uniform or fair way and some people become convinced they are being targeted. One person can get a letter for their trash cans being visible (and they may be behind a wall) while the next-door neighbor stores their trashcans in front of their house. We get letters for particular petty violations and find the same violation, over and over again, on homes in the surrounding neighborhoods, that are not addressed by the city nor by the homeowners for YEARS.

For example, I know a guy who got a letter to fill in a small 2-foot pothole on his asphalt driveway. But MANY driveways are cracked to the point of gravel, and the city does not seem to target those folks. This guy has been harassed for some of the most minor things, while other large issues go unaddressed.

Other clear violations on high visibility routes, such as ham radio antennae set high up on roof ridges or twirling air vents on the tops of roofs, seem to be allowed if the persons living in the house are part of the "political IN crowd."

The enforcement of codes seems to be set up for "reporting persons you don't like in order to inconvenience, punish or harass them," rather than fairness.
What

Taylorville, IL

#11 Jul 21, 2011
Actually fences are allowed around the perimeters of pools. If you want to know why fences aren't allowed, go take a drive down Bryan Road in O'Fallon and through neighborhoods, and you'll understand. Differing fences butting up to one another become so unattractive over time. The trees in Lake St. Louis are so pretty and the residents have figured out how to create "natural" fencing and privacy with trees. We moved 2 years ago to 5 acres in the country in another state due to a job transfer, and my family and I still miss the Lake St. Louis community! Nice people who care about their children and their property.
Troy resident

Chicago, IL

#12 Nov 17, 2011
They can allow fencing if they restrict what type it is. It doesn't have to look like that. We are looking to move that way, and won't move to LSL because I have a dog, who like to run in her back yard. We are building in a subdivison that has restrictions on fencing. No wood, has to match neighbor etc.....As long as they make it look nice, it is fine... I see no problem with fencing.

Since: Sep 11

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#13 Nov 20, 2011
Lived in LSL for over ten yrs and loved it. Yes, there are restrictions but that is what makes it such a nice place to live. I never had any problems.
CA Member

Jersey City, NJ

#14 Nov 28, 2011
It is true that some fencing looks better than others, and the right restrictions can help. And there are certainly lots of people who like the look, and benefits, of fencing. However, not having fences does more than just eliminate potential eye-sores. It creates an open look to the community. When I sit on my back deck, I see a vista that approximates the look of a large park surrounded by homes, rather than a bunch of individual lots, which is one of the reasons we built our home in LSL more than two decades ago.
DenisB

Saint Peters, MO

#15 Nov 28, 2011
CA Member- I'm so sorry my choices for a method to provide safety for me children and my pets offends you and your desire for a 'park' setting. But then, since I built my house in the early 80's, I guess the fact you moved in 20 years ago is irrelevant.
The fact you want a vista of a park only means you've moved to the wrong place, it is a city, not your personal park.

Maybe it's time for you and the old folks to accept times have changed, needs have changed, desires have changed. It's also time for you to figure out there are other people in the world besides just your selfish soul.
LSL Eastsider

Wentzville, MO

#16 Nov 28, 2011
DenisB you are the person that needs to better research where you want to live. Find out the restrictions before you buy the home or build it rather than complain after you are here .You say you built your home in the 80s that means you don't have small children, am I right? As far as pets go putting in an invisible fence is more economical and more appealing than fences, according to the majority of our residents.
Also if you built your home in the early 80s you are no spring chicken.
CA Member

Warren, NJ

#17 Nov 29, 2011
DenisB - I think if you re-read my previous post, you'll note that at no time did I say I was offended by fences. And I also recognize the benefits that fences offer, including those regarding safety. But, as Eastsider points out, the rules were in place before either of us moved to LSL (both in the 80s, BTW). I recognized the community for what it was, and liked what I saw. I was in my 20s at the time, and I have since managed to raise my kids (and pets) without fences, and I still feel like we made the right choice for our family. I'm sorry that you moved to "the wrong place", but evidently you've made it this long, so it must not have been all bad. I'm sure we are all a little selfish, to be sure, but I don't think my desire and willingness to live within the rules that were in place when I moved to LSL will have much impact on my soul.
Andrew

Redfern, Australia

#18 Jun 30, 2012
I used to live in LSL. Loved it.
common cents

Wentzville, MO

#19 Dec 23, 2012
So if you want to give up your freedom as to what kind of fence you can put up, what color your allowed to paint your house or what you can park in your driveway that you own and pay taxes on by all means move there....just sayin.... hehe....i think they're a bunch of control freaks and nazis myself probably republicans.....mabye you'll fit in
Hmm

Antioch, TN

#20 Dec 23, 2012
common cents wrote:
So if you want to give up your freedom as to what kind of fence you can put up, what color your allowed to paint your house or what you can park in your driveway that you own and pay taxes on by all means move there....just sayin.... hehe....i think they're a bunch of control freaks and nazis myself probably republicans.....mabye you'll fit in
Lived there in a corporate rental , way more democrats- way more

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