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Oct 26, 2009 | Posted by: N2shotokai

St. Louis pays $80,000 for censoring Christians

Full story: www.wnd.com

The city of St. Louis has agreed to pay $80,000 for censoring the speech of Christians during a pride festival on city property, according to the Alliance Defense Fund.

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“Love thy neighbor!”

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What would they do if I stood on the sidewalk in front of their church (public property) and held up signs and passed out literature that were pro-gay? Would they call the police? Beat me up?
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Gay Mom wrote:
What would they do if I stood on the sidewalk in front of their church (public property) and held up signs and passed out literature that were pro-gay? Would they call the police? Beat me up?
They , referring to the police, would have to protect your rights as well.As long as you were not on the church property.

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Whats wrong with the world!?!?

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What would they do if I stood on the sidewalk in front of their church (public property) and held up signs and passed out literature that were pro-gay? Would they call the police? Beat me up?
Perhaps you did not read the article. That is exactly what the gay agenda was selling at the pride parade. When Christians tried to express their viewpoint they were illegaly stopped which is the point of the article.

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I always read WND articles with a large dose of skepticism.

Of course, what they fail to mention is that, at that time, there was a city ban on leafleting in public parks. The Christian organization was in violation of that ban.

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I think it time to start "interrupting" church service nationwide with insulting language as the churchgoers are arriving and leaving! What a great concept!
My free speech (including hate speech) toward conservative religious bigots is PROTECTED under the law.. what do ya think nephie?

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Here is a link to the story without the WND slant.

http://www.bnd.com/336/story/976537.html
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Troth wrote: "I think it time to start "interrupting" church service nationwide with insulting language as the churchgoers are arriving and leaving! What a great concept!
My free speech (including hate speech) toward conservative religious bigots is PROTECTED under the law.. what do ya think nephie? "

Why do you call conservative Christians bigots? Is it because they believe homosexuality is sinful? That is their interpretation of the bible. Is it because you feel threatened by them in some way?

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For being a newspaper for "righteous, morally perfect" christians, the WND is certainly good at distorting the facts to serve their own agenda.

The story is just shy of outright lying on lots of its "facts".

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ccrider wrote:
Troth wrote: "I think it time to start "interrupting" church service nationwide with insulting language as the churchgoers are arriving and leaving! What a great concept!
My free speech (including hate speech) toward conservative religious bigots is PROTECTED under the law.. what do ya think nephie? "
Why do you call conservative Christians bigots? Is it because they believe homosexuality is sinful? That is their interpretation of the bible. Is it because you feel threatened by them in some way?
It's not because they have their own beliefs - it's that they won't be happy until everybody lives by those beliefs. And they'll resort to any activity - including violence - to ensure that happens.
You can have your beliefs all you want, but stay the f*ck out of my life. I used to have compassion and even respect for most christians. They've ensured that's almost completely gone.

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Troth for Leogere wrote:
I think it time to start "interrupting" church service nationwide with insulting language as the churchgoers are arriving and leaving! What a great concept!
My free speech (including hate speech) toward conservative religious bigots is PROTECTED under the law.. what do ya think nephie?
I truly wish you would pull that stunt in the church I attend. However, I know you are nothing but hot air. Your tresspassing will be dealt with swiftly. I strongly suggest you resist citizens arrest.

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<quoted text> It's not because they have their own beliefs - it's that they won't be happy until everybody lives by those beliefs. And they'll resort to any activity - including violence - to ensure that happens.
You can have your beliefs all you want, but stay the f*ck out of my life. I used to have compassion and even respect for most christians. They've ensured that's almost completely gone.
Oh, like the gay agenda performing parades pressing their beliefs on others. The only violence I have seen at these types of events come from the gay agenda.

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Craig in OKC wrote:
For being a newspaper for "righteous, morally perfect" christians, the WND is certainly good at distorting the facts to serve their own agenda.
The story is just shy of outright lying on lots of its "facts".
Hypocrites
Both articles confirmed theviolation of constitutional rights. Suck it up and quit whining.

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<quoted text>Oh, like the gay agenda performing parades pressing their beliefs on others. The only violence I have seen at these types of events come from the gay agenda.
So, your local law enforcement gathered you up and FORCED you to witness the parade? Hmmm, never heard someone forced to go to any type of celebration.
See, I don't agree with how most parents act at little league games. They are destructive to the kids, hateful and sometimes downright disgusting. So, I don't go. But, I don't try to have them banned.
Whenever there is a tent revival in town, I don't go. I don't agree with the actions of trying to fleece disheartened people out of their money - and usually outright lying to them. But, I don't try to get them banned.
The article really had less to do with the venue and more to do with the fact that the church was violating a law that was on the books - however wrong that law may be.
But, your precious WND tried to make it sound like it was the participants of the festival itself who tried to "violate their rights" - when you know that's a lie.
Would you be so willing to stand up for a gay organization who's rights were violated? Not a chance...

“The Buybull is innerrrent.”

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ccrider wrote:
Why do you call conservative Christians bigots? Is it because they believe homosexuality is sinful? That is their interpretation of the bible. Is it because you feel threatened by them in some way?
Hey cretin, you don't have to pretend to be stoopit. That would be a form of lying and yer buybull seyz dont du that.

We know who the bigots are. We haven't said fundie, talibangelical, hater, screw loose xstains can't marry, adopt, serve openly in the armed forces or be protected from arbitrary firing. Yet.

We don't picket their events. Yet.

You bigots better figure out this isn't a theocracy and don't restrict equal rights just cos you're a religious freeeek, or the golden rule is gonna eventually swing around to bite you, jeebus.

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N2shotokai wrote:
<quoted text>Both articles confirmed theviolation of constitutional rights. Suck it up and quit whining.
Actually, the WND article didn't confirm anything except its penchant for telling lies and half-truths to suit its own agenda.

The other article confirmed that the religious group was in violation of the law, however draconian that law may have been.

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For someone who obviously spends all day at their computer, "N2shotokai" has a point.

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Whats wrong with the world!?!?
Two things: global warming and most of organized religion.
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Hey cretin, you don't have to pretend to be stoopit. That would be a form of lying and yer buybull seyz dont du that.
We know who the bigots are. We haven't said fundie, talibangelical, hater, screw loose xstains can't marry, adopt, serve openly in the armed forces or be protected from arbitrary firing. Yet.
We don't picket their events. Yet.
You bigots better figure out this isn't a theocracy and don't restrict equal rights just cos you're a religious freeeek, or the golden rule is gonna eventually swing around to bite you, jeebus.
Praiz!
You are nothing but an hypocritical bigot. You won't rest until the perverts run everything, will you? You don't know what you're asking for, and that's sad.

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N2shotokai wrote:
<quoted text>I truly wish you would pull that stunt in the church I attend. However, I know you are nothing but hot air. Your tresspassing will be dealt with swiftly. I strongly suggest you resist citizens arrest.
any slightest hint that N2 might be able to assault another just really seems to 'turn' him on, huh.
what happened to the right to free speech, N2? Or, do you only support free speech for certain people?
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