It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution debate

Full story: Asheville Citizen-Times

I would like to respond to the letter 'Recent letter offered no examples of Darwinian disingenuousness,' . He responds to an article with, 'He says evolution is 'so riddled with holes,' yet fails to provide a ...

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#89635
May 21, 2012
 
The Nerd wrote:
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Well for one, Science and the Genesis account are not mutually exclusive. There happens to be lot of scientific evidence that actually goes hand-in-hand with the sequence of events pertaining to the creation days as referenced by scripture.
No there is not. There is the scientific evidence that support actual scientific stories and there are anecdotal stories that people like you try and twist to fit a subset of the scientific evidence.

If what you say is true, let's hear one passage from the Bible that can stand without any word-smithing from you, that supports a scientific theory, just one?

I want the quote, the reference, the specific theory, and what part of the theory it supports directly.

Come on, just one. Good luck.

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The evolutionary paradigm contends that things of greater complexity derived from things of a much lesser complexity. This is further purported In the development of anatomically modern humans from the higher primates of the animal kingdom, which in turn developed from the lower primates all the way down to a single-celled organism. This line of reasoning is at variance with the laws of Science. Science shows that advance-life chemistry comes from advance-life chemistry. All creatures reproduce “after their own kind”, as stated in the Genesis account. That's just one of many examples.
So by that statement, your own comments on the existence of hybrids would be impossible.

Actually the Genesis quote doesn't mention reproduction, now does it. If I recall it goes something like " ... God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

So you are playing with the words by introducing 'reproduction' into the mix.

Care to try again. This time use an actual quote. You can stick with the King James Version if you like or pick a different Bible.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>If you are too blind to know,people have faith in the bible,that is why it is working for them.But for you,you don't and the bible said, without faith,God can not be pleased.Yours is not working and due to that,you keep attacking those that believe in it with your lies...
Why is it working for whom? The only people who seem to be making it are those people who work within the business of religion.

If it's actually doing something for other people, prove it's their belief in one God or another that is actually doing something. Come on, one more list you will fail to produce after making big boasts.

Mine seems to be working just fine. I have a good job, work with interesting people, have a good family and an adorable granddaughter. By any standards, life is going pretty well. Funny, I can trace many of the positive things in my life to specific actions I, my wife, and my children have actually done. No need to bring a Deity into the picture.

Of course some negative things have happened and probably will happen in the future, but still no need to blame a Deity. It's called 'Life' and I for one have been living it. You, on the other hand, spend more time on your knees than on your feet. Good luck explaining that to Jesus.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>What ever!!!
I and many others far and wide have faith in the bible and it is really working for us...
But for you,it is not.Open your mind to it and learn,instead of criticising others...
I am not criticizing your belief, I am criticizing the statements you have been making in here trying to justify your belief to yourself and to others.

You have an interesting view of Religious Freedom. You seem to believe you should be free to believe as you wish and that everyone else is supposed to believe as you do as well.

Bollocks!

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May 21, 2012
 
forreal wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus said he was the way and the truth and life, are you saying you need an education for that?LOL God doesnt need science?LOL Your education is worstless just like Pharaoh and Hitler and so many Romans and Greeks who refuse the truth!!!
So if it were up to you, we would still live in caves to afraid to even use fire in case it might anger one deity or another.

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forreal wrote:
<quoted text>I know this becuase the bible isnt as old as you want it to be!!!As far as religion is concern do they point to the sourse of life that is in Christ! If many religion have different believes and most say they do than they will be judge by what they put on that founation.But all they guilty noway there material will be tried in fire!
So now you are a conduit for threats. Such a waste.

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TedHOhio wrote:
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I am not criticizing your belief, I am criticizing the statements you have been making in here trying to justify your belief to yourself and to others.
You have an interesting view of Religious Freedom. You seem to believe you should be free to believe as you wish and that everyone else is supposed to believe as you do as well.
Bollocks!
You can have any colour you like, as long as it's black...

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forreal wrote:
<quoted text>As long as there is a city call Jerusalem you the stupid one!!!Who were the Hebrews or the Jews Or the Romans and so forth are you denying Biblical History!!!Why is your brain full of faith when it comes to Aliens or life outside out planet and you willing to spend billions!LOL Conspiracy have you ever heard of the Ratline? Do you think the catholic church didnt help the Nazis!Why did the Americans keep the brightness nazis for science?Are you saying the Bushes who say they are christians and still wont denounce the Skull of Bones membership they are still christians?LOL
Lets see, Jerusalem has been destroyed how many times? Do you even know the original name of the City you seem to think makes Christianity possible?

I doubt it. Bet you have to look it up before answering.

You are also not the authority on who is and who is not a Christian. After all, most Christians would say your viewpoint is too narrow to be a real Christian, they would call you an Evangelical Christian in order to differentiate you from real Christians.

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forreal wrote:
<quoted text>see how stupid you are you love to twist and take things from you stupid brain and makethem up!!!! you are a sick case!!!
No, I was addressing what you yourself said. If you don't want to be mistaken, be more specific in your comments.

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#89644
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The Nerd wrote:
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The original Hebrew scriptures doesn't imply the event was global.
Genesis 7:21-22
And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

'all flesh that moved upon the earth' sounds pretty global to me.

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Dogen wrote:
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So the claim is that the majority of humans on planet earth are mentally ill. I do not think our friend understands that the majority rules when it comes to defining what is abrant.
I think there are a great many things our friend fails to understand.

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#89646
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I'm not referencing on the core level. I guess I should have substituted the word "complexity" for "better developed". I forgotten how some atheists get hung up on the word complex or any variation of said word.
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Ah, didn't he subscribed to Lamarckism?
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When I say 'advanced-life Chemistry' I'm using that statement as an association to the intelligent life on this planet. The intelligent life that has dabbled in abstract thought, mathematics, The pursuit of an increase in technology, is well aware of death and contemplates after death events.
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Genesis 1:25 - And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
I see you managed to actually quote Genesis .. so where does if explain reproduction? Or are you making assumptions on how you wish to interpret the words?

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Bluenose wrote:
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You can have any colour you like, as long as it's black...
LOL, Ol' Henry at his best!

What's neat is that even if you are of a different faith, chuckie and his ilk in the future will rebaptize you into their faith if they want to quote-mine your words someday.

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15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Genesis 7:21-22
And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
'all flesh that moved upon the earth' sounds pretty global to me.
Naw, Nerd likes the cherry-pick.

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The original Hebrew scriptures implies people of the local geography not 'all the people in the world'. It wasn't until later that God scattered the people over the face of the Earth.
Again, it does not matter. A small flood could have been waked away from, and there would be no need for an ark. A worldwide flood did not happen.

Where do you think that this flood occurred that was large enough to kill all people on the Earth. And why did your god as Noah to build an ark in the first place?
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TedHOhio wrote:
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So if it were up to you, we would still live in caves to afraid to even use fire in case it might anger one deity or another.
Gods a Provider!!!LOL 5 loaves and 2 fishes!!!LOL and the baskets came back full!!!dont you believe in Obama share the wealth!!!You stole it anyway or maybe cheating the IRS!LOL
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TedHOhio wrote:
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So now you are a conduit for threats. Such a waste.
Just like the Bushes there were no missing dots!LOL Bush let 911 happen and many american fools believe him!You are no different when it comes to facts you twist the truth so suit you needs of gluttony!
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Lets see, Jerusalem has been destroyed how many times? Do you even know the original name of the City you seem to think makes Christianity possible?
I doubt it. Bet you have to look it up before answering.
You are also not the authority on who is and who is not a Christian. After all, most Christians would say your viewpoint is too narrow to be a real Christian, they would call you an Evangelical Christian in order to differentiate you from real Christians.
Jerusalem will always be known as the city of david!!!!Most christians like?

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LowellGuy wrote:
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Immanuel is not the same as Yeshua. "Christ" was the title, like "President" or "Emperor" or "King." If you're saying that ANY name followed by "the Christ" is the same as Immanuel, then you make the prophecy completely meaningless.
You are not in any position to erase the idea that Immanuel is the same as the Christ.Among all the prophets that came to the world,Jesus was the only one that befits that status,Immanuel...
No one till date!!!
Denying him is like denying the truth(reality)...

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The Nerd wrote:
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The original Hebrew scriptures implies people of the local geography not 'all the people in the world'. It wasn't until later that God scattered the people over the face of the Earth.
Nerd, by the time of the supposed flood, or the tower of babel, humans were spread all over the earth...everywhere except Antarctica.

North America was populated 13,000 years before the supposed Babel incident.

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