Mississippi judge jails attorney for not reciting Pledge of Allegiance

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anon wrote:

<quoted text>Government money comes with strings attached. Those rules are a form of tyranny. The government is a religion it is called secular humanism.

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eric wrote:

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thank you for the information on the Internet, I will research further.
However, I do disagree with secular humanism equating to a religion or government. Government is supposed to be secular by nature. Government is supposed to be concerned with it's people and run by the will of it's people. Religion wants to dominate government so a very narrow worldview is applied as a blanket to all people regardless of their personal beliefs. The puritans were kicked out of England because their religion clashed with the state religion, they were also subsequently not welcomed to Holland because of their propensity to proselytize their zany beliefs. They ended up in what was to be called America where religious freedom for Puritans, and no one else was the rule of law. As the colonies grew, it became obvious that this would not work. Then those really smart cats the declared our independence came together and based our founding on past experience. The puritans were removed from their home country because of state religion, and they in turn burned hundreds of people at the stake for not falling into line with their religion. Any reasonable person would have seen that secularism was the only way for a government to function with a full capacity for freedom.

eric wrote:

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thank you for the information on the Internet, I will research further.
However, I do disagree with secular humanism equating to a religion or government. Government is supposed to be secular by nature. Government is supposed to be concerned with it's people and run by the will of it's people. Religion wants to dominate government so a very narrow worldview is applied as a blanket to all people regardless of their personal beliefs. The puritans were kicked out of England because their religion clashed with the state religion, they were also subsequently not welcomed to Holland because of their propensity to proselytize their zany beliefs. They ended up in what was to be called America where religious freedom for Puritans, and no one else was the rule of law. As the colonies grew, it became obvious that this would not work. Then those really smart cats the declared our independence came together and based our founding on past experience. The puritans were removed from their home country because of state religion, and they in turn burned hundreds of people at the stake for not falling into line with their religion. Any reasonable person would have seen that secularism was the only way for a government to function with a full capacity for freedom.

anon wrote:

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Secular humanism is more that a government being secular. Our Government is a democratic republic not a pure democracy. The Senate reps were appointed by the state legislators not the voter. When states could not do their jobs the amended the Constitution to give the power to the voter. This fundamentally changed our whole system to a buy a seat system and buy a law where lobbyists over ride the public. Many Americans believe charity is a personal choice not a government mandate so that is the forced humanism religion. It is the local tyranny of the community has corrupted our freedoms and wider government infringement on liberties. Read
"Democracy in America" by Tocqueville. make sure it is not the abridged version taught in school.

I love my Brownings wrote:

Oh yes next time you start inside a business look up and around are they flying a flag in a disrespectful manner (7day resale next to rameys)
the flag there has been in a wad for some time must be F***ing MUSLIMS owning that place AND I also don't go to sonic in collins they use the flag as a decoration
(Guidelines for Displaying the Flag
1. The flag of the United States should be flown daily from sunrise to
sunset in good weather from public buildings, schools, permanent
staffs, and in or near polling places on election days. The flag
may be displayed 24 hours a day on patriotic holidays or if properly
illuminated.
2. The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is bad,
except when an all-weather flag is used.
3. The flag should always be flown on national and state holidays and
on those occasions proclaimed by the President. On Memorial Day,
the flag should be half staffed until noon.
4. The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously. It
should never be dipped to any person nor should it ever be displayed
with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress.
5. The flag should never touch anything beneath it, nor should it ever
be carried flat or horizontally.
6. It should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, drapery, or
decoration, nor for carrying or holding anything.
7. The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored
in such a manner as to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged. It should
never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
8. The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of
a vehicle. When a flag is displayed on a car, the flag's staff
should be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right
fender.
9. The flag or its staff should never be used for advertising purposes
in any manner whatsoever. Nor should any picture, drawing, insignia
or other decoration be placed on or attached to the flag, its staff,
or halyard.
10. The flag should not be embroidered on cushions, handkerchiefs, or
other personal items nor printed on anything designed for temporary
use and discarded. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the
uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, or members of
other patriotic organizations.
11. When the flag is so worn or soiled that it is no longer suitable
for display, it should be destroyed in a dignified manner,
preferably by burning.

LandSakes wrote:

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Is this flag a god or something?!
Break it down:
I
Pledge
Alllengence
TO the FLAG
????!!!!!

LandSakes wrote:

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Is this flag a god or something?!
Break it down:
I
Pledge
Alllengence
TO the FLAG
????!!!!!

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eric wrote:

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I will find it and read it.
I still maintain that secular humanism and secular governance is not the same thing. Secular humanism refers to people who are "good without a god" secular government means religious, supernatural thought does not enter into the making of laws. It means that no religion shall be placed above another belief system in the making of those laws. Humanism is not a religion, it is a philosophy that the humans right here are far more important than whatever we believe is out there in the ether. Charity most certainly should be a personal choice and its one that i hope many people make daily. As much as it may invalidate my opinion in some circles i am speaking as someone who does have a need for government assistance. I am speaking as someone who is working very hard to NOT need government assistance. I am speaking as someone who lives and breathes these things all day every day. You cant honestly make the argument that the government is tyrannical because it dictates how a state should spend the funds it is given by a federal government (which is its revenue) in the same breath as charity being a government mandate (by which i'm guessing you mean for people like me). You can't dictate how your taxes are spent either. There are lots of things i don't like my taxes going to, but i only complain about the ones that really matter in the long run. Taxes going to food stamps for families, higher education for the less fortunate, schools for our children, housing for low income and elderly people, i do not have an issue with that. Tax money going to churches, wars, tax subsidies on oil producers that are currently putting us over a barrel while making record profits, etc. Those are the things i have a huge problem with. The world was only just beginning to change when President Johnson instituted the Great Society legislation. His motives may have been dubious and mostly political, but good things came out of it. in the 50+ years since the world has changed more and more rapidly, and for the first time in our history, America is the one left behind. People who use tyranny as quickly and easily as most do today wouldn't know what to do with themselves if real tyranny ever came along. The government thinks its a good idea to make sure all its citizens have the basic human necessities of life, and the opportunity to make something of themselves so they can give back as well, that is not in any way tyranny. Thats just the right thing to do.

The_SCOOP wrote:

This issue is dead and even the defense attorney wants it to go away. Let it go. Take your issues up on Facebook.

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Good Attorney wrote:

Good attorney! I do not recite the repledge either, nor do I salute the flag. Why bother, given that the country is overrun by illegal immigrants, that public employee unions bribe our politicians, that activist judges overturn the vote of the people, and that racial and gender quotas are used instead of merit?
The only thing this country MIGHT do for me is pay back what I put into Social Security. Then again, maybe it won't.

Adolpho Busillo wrote:

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Charlie Manson can write better than this try paragraphs freak.

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Sheik Yerbouti wrote:

The judge should be removed from the bench and disbarred! The day someone forced me to worship a piece of cloth will be the day hell freezes over!