Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

Nov 30, 2010 Full story: CBS2 51,249

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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Huh

Schaumburg, IL

#35477 Sep 9, 2012
Just another case of Dems gone wild!!! Mike Madigan and Quinn can be real proud of jumping on the gay band wagon!!! How can such a small % of population have a sympathic ear in Springfield when we are BROKE and the same guys have a tin ear to solutions to real problems ???? KEEP VOTING FOR THOSE GUYS in a very few years we will all head for Indiana!

“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#35478 Sep 9, 2012
OldTimer JOE wrote:
It clearly states in the bible that marriage is between a Man and Woman, PERIOD!!!!!!!
The Bible is Gods Word and it cannot b argued with or changed.
Gods word is written in stone, so who do these homo's think they are challenging Gods word.
If not for Gods generoous mercy towards these confused, sick, sad Homosexuals,,,,they would of been struck down by lightning 100 times over.
Its not too late for faggs to apologize to the lord for not trustiing his word.
Therefore God is even willing to forgive gays for there ignorence and selfish lust.
that was pretty funny, joe... especially the bit about the bible stating that marriage is between a man and a woman, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!

oh yeah, and tie bit about god's word being written in stone. that was pretty funny, to.
ugh

Dallas, TX

#35479 Sep 9, 2012
You guys. God is Jesus' imaginary friend. He is something made up. The bible is a book that was created to control people's minds. Look at how you bible thumpers are talking. Kill this gay put that gay on a stake and burn. If there was a god I'm sure he will look down on you and shake his head. On the bible it also states that if a child disobeys his/her parents then the parents must kill the child then eat it. Also says eating shellfish is an abomination too. God doesn't promote hate. You guys are. He is one that loves and accepts everyone. If god was the creator of mankind and hates gays do you think he would create them in the first place?
Bump

Fontana, KS

#35480 Sep 9, 2012
KarmasGonnaGetcha wrote:
<quoted text>
Ann Margret looked great in Carnal Knowledge, showing her big ol' titties and nice luscious booty!
<smirk>
<sneer>
<audible fart>
Bumpity bump bump!
ugh

Grand Prairie, TX

#35482 Sep 9, 2012
OldTimer JOE wrote:
<quoted text>How dare you talk this way.
You young whippersnappers best repent.
Sticking penises in another mans butt, cannot make God happy.
In fact, it probably makes him puke, because poor God has to watch that nasty filthy activities that's pulluting the souls and air of Earth. God sees everything you do, so don't try to put a blanket over your gay little heads while you are buttbumping.
He sees anyway.

And so does the Devil. The devil must be very pleased with all the gay rubbing and bumping in the tub.
so is god ok with women prostituting themselves? They are having sex with men. And I doubt god also wants to see 2 really old bodies clunking around in the bedroom either. We can go at this all night. Just know you're gonna look like an idiot and I'm gonna win
really

De Soto, IL

#35483 Sep 9, 2012
OldTimer JOE wrote:
<quoted text>
How dare you talk this way.
You young whippersnappers best repent.
Sticking penises in another mans butt, cannot make God happy.
In fact, it probably makes him puke, because poor God has to watch that nasty filthy activities that's pulluting the souls and air of Earth. God sees everything you do, so don't try to put a blanket over your gay little heads while you are buttbumping.
He sees anyway.
And so does the Devil. The devil must be very pleased with all the gay rubbing and bumping in the tub.
rubbing and bumping in the Tub!!! REALLY.. you sound like you have done this before with another man or fantasied about it. You have no right to judge people at all. I'm sure u could be judged. No way your perfect. None of you bizz what people do in the bed or the tub. How they live their life. He is watching you also, being rude and nasty to people. Also watching you play with yourself. Hmmmmmm..

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#35484 Sep 10, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
'smirk' is a twist of the reality knife sunk to the hilt into denial.
For instance, you and I both know we aren't talking about adoption.
I have worked around family issues professionally all my life. My wife and I have fostered children all through our thirty six years of marriage. We have counseled and supported adoptive families. I talked last night to a friend who with his wife adopted six children of various nationalities. My wife talked Friday with another friend who 15 years ago adopted a drug baby. You have no idea what they have dealt with.
There is not a single parent I know who fostered, step-parented or adopted that wouldn't have preferred seeing those children with their biological parents in a healthy situation.
What I resent is someone who pretends they can match what God and nature designed. They don't do it for the child, they do it to pretend their denial is real. Even worse, they have the perversion to deliberately birth a child without a parent.
The life of a child put in a twisted situation and told it is normal. And forever that child lives between reality and denial. That is what your denial leads to.
I hope you aren't as abusive in person as you are on line. I would never knowingly place children in a foster home where they would be exposed to the destructive irrational prejudice you promote. Your prejudice makes it difficult to find appropriate homes, especially for gay children and those who might be gay. It is the prejudice you promote that leads many to suicide and other self destructive behavior.

"In a healthy situation"... Of course children do best with their birth parents in a healthy situation. But as you should know all too well, many biological parent homes don't qualify as "a healthy situation". In my 40 plus years of professional training and experience working directly with abused children, which included residential treatment settings as well as placing them in foster homes, group homes, and residential treatment, I have seen very few kids that I believed were better off with their abusive natural parents. Reality does not live up to what you can imagine as the best placement for a child. As you should know, many don't survive.

No matter what you or I believe is the best environment for a child, the reality remains, many straight people have children accidentally and with no motivation to be a parent, while others may want a child but have no ability to care for it. This often includes women who have no stable relationship with the father if they even know who the father is. Yet we don't restrict civil rights based on ability to parent.

We do know, despite your belief to the contrary, it is the relationship between the parent and child that best determines success, not the gender of the parents. We also know children adopted early in life have an equal chance of doing as well as biological children.("drug babies" excepted) We further know adopted children do better than children left in institutional settings. And again, reality tells us there are around 100,000 more children in need of parents every year in the US alone than there are homes that want them.

Whether through adoption or assisted reproduction, parents who are highly motivated to actually be parents have the highest rates of success, regardless of gender. Your prejudice fails to provide any scientific justification or legitimate governmental interest sufficient to deny equal treatment under the law as required by the constitution.

“Marriage equality for all”

Since: Jul 07

Illinois

#35485 Sep 10, 2012
OldTimer JOE wrote:
<quoted text>
The devil must be very pleased with all the gay rubbing and bumping in the tub.
No wonder you dislike gay sex; you've been doing it in the tub.
Orgasmatron

Calvert City, KY

#35486 Sep 10, 2012
Hetero wrote:
<quoted text>
Anal sex is demeaning my wife's ass (pun intended). I've been married to the same woman for over 30 years in a totally monogamous relationship and, I can assure you, her orgasmic intensity is often greater with anal than with vaginal. She also immensely enjoys the occasional rim job I give her.
Sounds like this guy has a handle on things, as well as a satisfied wife!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#35487 Sep 10, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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We do know, despite your belief to the contrary, it is the relationship between the parent and child that best determines success, not the gender of the parents. We also know children adopted early in life have an equal chance of doing as well as biological children.("drug babies" excepted) We further know adopted children do better than children left in institutional settings. And again, reality tells us there are around 100,000 more children in need of parents every year in the US alone than there are homes that want them.
Whether through adoption or assisted reproduction, parents who are highly motivated to actually be parents have the highest rates of success, regardless of gender. Your prejudice fails to provide any scientific justification or legitimate governmental interest sufficient to deny equal treatment under the law as required by the constitution.
"We know" no such thing.

And you have no valid proof of any such thing.

You negate the power of blood relations.

You equate duplicate genders with diverse in raising a child.

You ignore the higher risk rates for substitute parents.

The list goes on.

The idiocy of such claims boggles even a simple mind and angers any moral person.

You are willing to harm a child to pursue the farce of 'equal treatment' of unequal relationships.

Despicable.
your face

Grand Prairie, TX

#35489 Sep 10, 2012
Padre Donald wrote:
I will pray for the gay people and hope that God can heal them from there horrible mental illnesses.
Amen.
padre donald you crack me up. Does having 2 degrees mean I have a mental illness? I'm gay and a graduate and im going for a double masters. If you don't like gay people well don't be with a gay. I'm not sitting here telling you how to live your life nor do I want to. So sit back let me live and shut your freaking face cause no one wants to hear words from a bigot.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#35491 Sep 10, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
"We know" no such thing.
And you have no valid proof of any such thing.
You negate the power of blood relations.
You equate duplicate genders with diverse in raising a child.
You ignore the higher risk rates for substitute parents.
The list goes on.
The idiocy of such claims boggles even a simple mind and angers any moral person.
You are willing to harm a child to pursue the farce of 'equal treatment' of unequal relationships.
Despicable.
Your abusive personal insults fail to change the fact science has demonstrated it is the relationship between the parents and child that determines successful outcome, not the gender of the parents:

"Unfortunately, many people are not aware of the three decades of research showing that children of gay or lesbian parents are just as mentally healthy as children with heterosexual parents, notes Cerbone.

Children of gay and lesbian parents reported closer ties with their schools and classmates.

Patterson's and others' findings that good parenting, not a parent's sexual orientation, leads to mentally healthy children may not surprise many psychologists. What may be more surprising is the finding that children of same-sex couples seem to be thriving, though they live in a world that is often unaccepting of their parents."

http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec05/kids.aspx

"In summary, social science has shown that the concerns often raised about children of lesbian and gay parents' concerns that are generally grounded in prejudice against and stereotypes about gay people' are unfounded. Overall, the research indicates that the children of lesbian and gay parents do not differ markedly from the children of heterosexual parents in their development, adjustment, or overall well-being."

http://www.apa.org/topics/sexuality/orientati...

And two more that found they are just as good if not better:

"Overall, studies indicate that children raised with lesbian co-parents do just as well as children raised by heterosexual married couples. The children of lesbian co-parents may even have fewer behavioral problems and higher self-esteem." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35124737/ns/healt...

"Parenting by same-sex families is just as good -- if not slightly advantageous -- for children when compared to heterosexual families, a Justice Department study has concluded." http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story....

Hawaii Supreme Court testimony by those opposed to marriage equality:
"Dr Eggebeen (witness against marriage equality) also conceded that "gay and lesbian couples can , and do, make excellent parents" "that they are capable of raising a healthy child", and "that children of same sex couples would be helped if their families had access to or were able to receive benefits of marriage".

Dr. Charlotte Patterson: there was "no data or research which establishes that gay fathers and lesbian mothers are less capable of being good parents than non-gay people.

Dr. David Brodzinsky: The issue is not the structural variable, biological versus nonbiological, one parent versus two parent. The issue is really the process variables, how children are cared for, is the child provided warmth, it the child provided consistency of care, is the child provided a stimulated environment, is the e child given support.... and when you take a look at structural variables, there's not all that much support that structural variable in and of themselves are all that important.

Dr. Pepper Shwartz: "the primary quality of parenting is not the parenting structure, or biology, but is the nurturing relationship between parent and child."

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#35492 Sep 10, 2012
The fact that children can do as well with same sex parents does not "negate the power of blood relationships". It only shows that is not the only relationship that can be valuable and result in success.

"But even if Congress believed at the time of DOMA's passage that children had the best chance at success if raised jointly by their biological mothers and fathers, a desire to encourage heterosexual couples to procreate and rear their own children more responsibly would not provide a rational basis for denying federal recognition to same-sex marriages. Such denial does nothing to promote stability in heterosexual parenting. Rather, it "prevents children of same-sex couples from enjoying the immeasurable advantages that flow from the assurance of a stable family structure, when afforded equal recognition under federal law." (Gill)

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#35493 Sep 10, 2012
While true that step parents who have no biological connection as well as no emotional connection to a child have a higher rate of abuse and rejection of the child with expected harmful effects, the research has shown that adoptive parents provide nurturing environments that are at least equal to biological parents. Your desire to demean adoptive parents by equating them to abusive step parents is scientifically unsupportable. Not all "substitute" parents are rejecting and abusive. Yet again, we do not deny marriage to step parents even though they represent the highest risk for child abuse.

The reality is, gay people have always been raising children and that will continue. It is you who is willing and attempting to harm those children by refusing to treat them as you would yourself. Harming others needlessly is immoral. The irrational prejudice you promote results in needless suffering and death.

“Marriage equality for all”

Since: Jul 07

Illinois

#35494 Sep 10, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>

You equate duplicate genders with diverse in raising a child.
Munt says what?

“Marriage equality for all”

Since: Jul 07

Illinois

#35495 Sep 10, 2012
Padre Donald wrote:
I will pray for the gay people and hope that God can heal them from there horrible mental illnesses.
Amen.
God created us, as we are. We don't need healing. While you're praying, ask him for understanding and tolerance.
Leader of the Pack

AOL

#35496 Sep 10, 2012
Marengo Jon wrote:
<quoted text>
God created us, as we are. We don't need healing. While you're praying, ask him for understanding and tolerance.
Amen!
Leader of the Pack

AOL

#35497 Sep 10, 2012
A little off topic, but did any one see the preview for The New Normal tonight? Ellen Barkin must have been reading Topix to study for her character...I haven't laughed that much in a long time.
your face

Grand Prairie, TX

#35498 Sep 10, 2012
Leader of the Pack wrote:
A little off topic, but did any one see the preview for The New Normal tonight? Ellen Barkin must have been reading Topix to study for her character...I haven't laughed that much in a long time.
I wanna see it so bad. It looks hilarious
DaveC

Milton, WV

#35499 Sep 11, 2012
I don't know about that

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