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New program asks consumers to chip in to help struggling dairy ...

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Three New England states are urging consumers to chip in and help save the region's dairy farms, which are struggling with record-low prices being paid for their milk.

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Right Wing Extremist

Brookline, MA

A shining example of government manipulation of an industry, the dairy industry, destroying the very people they intended to help.

I feel for the dairy folks, as they are held captive, and at the mercy of the government driven milk market. Had they the ability to do business in a free market, without the controls of pricing, etc, they would all be much better off.

Take a hard look at this, the government's fingerprints are all over this problem.

Everyone needs and consumes milk. How can these folks, providing such a necessary commodity, be struggling so badly?

Joe

Chester, VT

Right Wing Extremist wrote:

Everyone needs and consumes milk. How can these folks, providing such a necessary commodity, be struggling so badly?

Hobby farmers and poeple playing farmer for the land tax shelter dump product on the market below cost. They wouldn't be in the business if they had to pay real taxes on their property & equipment.

The real farmers crying poor and getting tax breaks enables everyone and their sister to also qualify for the tax breaks while playing phoney farmer. There should be a minimum gross revenue to be able to call it a working farm to get the tax breaks.

New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

Right Wing Extremist wrote:

Take a hard look at this, the government's fingerprints are all over this problem.

Can you be more specific about which government actions have undercut New England dairy farmers and in which ways?

Right Wing Extremist wrote:

Everyone needs and consumes milk. How can these folks, providing such a necessary commodity, be struggling so badly?

Ever hear of supply and demand? Larger dairy farmers in states with more suitable land land benefit from economies of scale; they can produce milk more cheaply than small NE farms. The volume they produce drives down the price, forcing out less efficient smaller dairies like ours.

There isn't any way our dairy farms are going to survive without some kind of subsidy. We're then faced with the question of whether to subsidize them or let them go.

Don't assume I support a dairy subsidy. I don't like propping up unsustainable industries (like General Motors). That doesn't mean I'll be happy to lose our local dairy farms.

estanson

Randolph, VT

New Clear Waste wrote:

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Larger dairy farmers in states with more suitable land land benefit from economies of scale; they can produce milk more cheaply than small NE farms.

umm...what about the higher transportation costs of shipping milk from a distance as opposed to getting it from in town?

I remember not long ago all the liberals claiming that high gas prices was going to stop the flow of food around the country...i guess that fear is now gone...(as unuseful to socialization)but you can't just go the opposite way and not factor these costs into your equation...

BTW, you last name is approprate...waste...

Right Wing Extremist

Brookline, MA

New Clear Waste wrote:

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Can you be more specific about which government actions have undercut New England dairy farmers and in which ways?
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Ever hear of supply and demand? Larger dairy farmers in states with more suitable land land benefit from economies of scale; they can produce milk more cheaply than small NE farms. The volume they produce drives down the price, forcing out less efficient smaller dairies like ours.
There isn't any way our dairy farms are going to survive without some kind of subsidy. We're then faced with the question of whether to subsidize them or let them go.
Don't assume I support a dairy subsidy. I don't like propping up unsustainable industries (like General Motors). That doesn't mean I'll be happy to lose our local dairy farms.

Go study it. Get the facts yourself. I'm done with your factless, sniveling posts.

Most laughable, "ever heard of supply and demand?" The concept you have yet to grasp.(except as you state, in your own personal finances. why is it the bigger the lib, the more they are proud of their personal conservatism, and their liberal approach to everyone else's money?)

New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

estanson wrote:

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umm...what about the higher transportation costs of shipping milk from a distance as opposed to getting it from in town?

Psst...little secret...Milk doesn't come from "in town"; it comes from dairies, which are in rural areas.

New England has plenty of markets for milk. Transportation to markets is not the problem. The problem is the distance from feed sources, which are in the Midwest. New England dairy herds have to eat feeds for a lot of the year, due to our short grazing season. Our land is lousy for producing hay and grain, so it has to come from afar.

Nutcracker

Gaysville, VT

New Clear Waste wrote:

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Psst...little secret...Milk doesn't come from "in town"; it comes from dairies, which are in rural areas.
New England has plenty of markets for milk. Transportation to markets is not the problem. The problem is the distance from feed sources, which are in the Midwest. New England dairy herds have to eat feeds for a lot of the year, due to our short grazing season. Our land is lousy for producing hay and grain, so it has to come from afar.

Psst...milk comes from cows and various mammals who have given birth (and Coconuts like you too I suppose).

New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

Right Wing Extremist wrote:

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Go study it. Get the facts yourself. I'm done with your blah blah blah

So sore! Each time you get caught saying something stupid (which is about every time you post) and someone calls you on it, your next post always sounds so frustrated & bitter. One would think you would learn, but I suppose it's in the nature of an extreme ideologue to keep doing the same thing over & over, never learn from anything.

estanson

Randolph, VT

New Clear Waste wrote:

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Psst...little secret...Milk doesn't come from "in town"; it comes from dairies, which are in rural areas.
New England has plenty of markets for milk. Transportation to markets is not the problem. The problem is the distance from feed sources, which are in the Midwest. New England dairy herds have to eat feeds for a lot of the year, due to our short grazing season. Our land is lousy for producing hay and grain, so it has to come from afar.

psst...i live in a rural town... with dairy cows...

Joe

Chester, VT

New Clear Waste wrote:

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Psst...little secret...Milk doesn't come from "in town"; it comes from dairies, which are in rural areas.
New England has plenty of markets for milk. Transportation to markets is not the problem. The problem is the distance from feed sources, which are in the Midwest. New England dairy herds have to eat feeds for a lot of the year, due to our short grazing season. Our land is lousy for producing hay and grain, so it has to come from afar.

so it's simple logistics, it's cheaper to bring in the finished product than haul in the feed.

basic math, pounds of feed needed to produce a poung of milk. Cost money to haul weight, if it takes 20 pounds of feed to produce 1 pound of milk simple cost of transportation takes over and it's cheaper to make the milk where the feed is.

They don't ship iron ore to vermont to make steel so they can make a bridge here in vermont, they make the steel near the source of the iron ore and ship the finished steel to vermont for the bridge. Using vermont logic the state should have it's own steel mill and iron ore shipped in so it's called locally produced ROFLMAO

If liberals had brains, they would be republicans.

Right Wing Extremist

Brookline, MA

New Clear Waste wrote:

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So sore! Each time you get caught saying something stupid (which is about every time you post) and someone calls you on it, your next post always sounds so frustrated & bitter. One would think you would learn, but I suppose it's in the nature of an extreme ideologue to keep doing the same thing over & over, never learn from anything.

I will disappoint you gfnb, but my posts are not a bunch of emotional drivel. That would be your specialty. So, go ahead, emote away dim one.

Matt

AOL

The small family dairy farm is something many can appreciate, and we want to survive. But what about other small family businesses? Mine is about to fold up, we have no government help or subsidy at all. It's time that if I want to stay in business as an owner I have to re-invent things, or go into something completely different. My thought is that things CANNOT always stay the same. There was a huge market for horse whips around 1880. Or the 8-track tape in 1972. Why are taxpayers supporting the equlivalent of the 8 track tape?

Party of No

Brattleboro, VT

Right Wing Extremist wrote:

my posts are not a bunch of emotional drivel

You are obviously a master of self-deception. Your posts are nothing but emotional drivel.

Joe

Chester, VT

Party of No wrote:

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no you can't have my money
no you can't have your way
no you can't
no you can't
no you can't
no you can't

Elmer Fudd

Waltham, MA

Right Wing Extremist wrote:

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I will disappoint you gfnb, but my posts are not a bunch of emotional drivel. That would be your specialty. So, go ahead, emote away dim one.

She's projecting again. Just pity her. Stuck in a rut.

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