House GOP wants to cut food stamps in drive to protect Pentagon from big federal budget cuts

LocalBoy wrote:

<quoted text>You have no idea what happened in Libya if you think good will is the outcome. It was all about instilling Wall Street to get his resources and ending his unification of Africa under a African currency, Research.......?
He sent bombs into Libya, killed women and children and overthrew a government.....with NO consent of congress and you defend this.....? Really, you defend killing innocent women and children so Wall Street can plunder yet another African Country ?
Innocent children are being killed everyday in drone attacks in Pakistan..do you deny this ?
Democracy Now is a left leaning liberal news source.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/6/obama_ha...
Bill Clinton murdered over 500,000 women and children in a ten year period, when questioned about this the Sec.State, Madeline Albright said it was worth it.
Now Mr.Obama is sanctioning Iran, how many innocent women and children will die over that ?
Under President Obama we now have more active duty....ACTIVE DUTY, that means they are serving under Mr.Obama...committing suicide than dies in combat.....where is the emergency funding for them ? He bailed out Wall Street, with Bush's help but cant find one penny for veterans..........
Come on, its disenginous to proclaim Mr.Obama has no blood on his hands, including the execution of an American citizen while intentionally denying him judicial review....and his 16 year old son. And you defend all this killing ?
At least when Bush went rogue I admitted it, and then worked to change the party to prevent that from happening. A lot better than apologizing for the man who kills women and children.
My vote did not go to McCain last time, I can assure you of that.
Are you anti war or pro Obama, cant be both.

Are you pro Romney or pro Obama? Those are your options. The rest is simply pie in the sky, and you know it as well as I do. It's a waste of time even discussing it in light of the Topic of the thread and weighing in on which of the TWO candidates will do what about the Pentagon budget and the foodstamp budget.

NTRPRNR1 wrote:

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WASHINGTON -- On the heels of President Barack Obama's State of the Union address, senior economic advisers to the president on Wednesday shared more details on Obama's blueprint for the economy, including a plan to strip incentives for companies to move jobs overseas and instead encourage the return of manufacturing jobs to U.S. soil.
Arguing that the country should build on the relative strength of its manufacturing sector, National Economic Council (NEC) Director Gene Sperling told reporters that Congress needs to remove the tax deductions that corporations can claim on moving expenses when they ship jobs overseas. In addition, he said the president is proposing a 20 percent income tax credit for companies that choose to bring jobs back to the U.S. Taken together, the two measures would be revenue-neutral, Sperling added.
"Moving jobs is not something we should be subsidizing," Sperling said. "The companies have a right to do it, but that doesn't mean we should subsidize it."
The plan underscores Obama's interest in spurring "insourcing," or the return of previously outsourced jobs, particularly in the manufacturing sector. Earlier this month the president held an "Insourcing American Jobs" forum at the White House with 14 American companies -- DuPont, Intel and Otis Elevators, among others -- with the goal of better understanding what incentives corporations would need to bring jobs home.(Continued:)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/obam...
OR:
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/Obama...
OR:
http://www.google.com/url...
Now, you have to read if you want to know. This is not "spoon feed" the naysayers. If you're going to support or reject a candidate, take the time to read what it is they stand for and how they hope to go about accomplishing their objectives.
I have certainly posted my objections to Romney's proposals on several threads, so I know you know what they are. The tax proposals are significant to me.

LMAO..

And his problem of getting that achieved the last 3 1/2 years is why, NTR? Oh, that's right, he was too busy giving unneccessary speeches, to busy putting his two cents worth in regarding racial baiting, playing golf, giving more speeches, endorseing other politicians and so forth.

Admit it, he is a failed president, but one you embrace, as socialism is within grasp, huh?

Ghost Rider wrote:

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And yet, none of you obama lovers can point out what effective plan obama has. You claim to be disappointed in him, yet can't say what he will do to improve what he has failed to do so far.
You support socialism and having the wealthy take care of you and others who fraud the system for welfare and disability.

During our best times econ9omically the US had 70% of its workforce in small businesses.
The idea we need filthy rich like Romeny to create jobs is not just false its down right absurd.

Wall Street doe snot create jobs, they destroy them.
Mainstreet creates jobs, good bosses and socially benevolent companies.

Free market means free access / free entry. Not free to collude and steal, like Wall Street.
Newsflash, Wall Street is not free market.
Capitalism is saved production, Wall Street destroy that with consumption and debt.

Good Grief

Ghost Rider wrote:

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Yeah, I know what you are talking about. The wish I was sucking off the govt's teat that you and your loser friends wished were true. You and your friends simply do not like it when others succeed in their endeavors and do not feel obliged to give it to the low lifes of society or illegal aliens and their anchor brats over their own. Go pan handle elsewhere PACO....

"The wish I was sucking off the govt's teat that you and your loser friends wished were true."

But, but, you are Goat. You're riding off a government subsidized retirement plan, with government subsidized health insurance, and living off your so-called son's SSI benefits. SSI benefits which by the way pays you for caring for your own son.

That sounds like a government leach to me. You're nothing without the government teat.

But hey.., that's all good....!

Romney and republicans rely on tax payer welfare to fund their crony capitalism.
Apparently they liked what they saw. Soon after, in October 1993, Bain Capital, co-founded by Mitt Romney, became majority shareholder in a steel mill that had been operating since 1888.

It was a gamble. The old mill, renamed GS Technologies, needed expensive updating, and demand for its products was susceptible to cycles in the mining industry and commodities markets.

Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they'd been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month.

What's more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company's underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.

Republicans and their fake phony crony capitalism.
Republicans live off tax payer welfare.

Cleo wrote:

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Do some reading comparing the US to other industrialized nations, and the US falls way behind, in almost every category. We are a third world country.
And according to the wealthy, they don't even want to pay minimum wge. Tax 'em, tax 'em more, and if they get caught with overseas bank accounts, seize the amounts and throw their a**es in jail for failure to report it. And no country club jail either.

"And according to the wealthy, they don't even want to pay minimum wge"

Supply a link to this claim.

I have always said, tax those who go out of The Country for cheaper labor more. I still stand by that. I have always supported going after the corrupt businesses and those who hire illegal aliens/immigrants, prosecute them, imprison them and fine them where it hits their profit margins, not a measely 50 thousand, as that is just chump change to them, and imprison them in hell holes as well. I also support impeaching majority of our politicians for their failure to do the job they were elected to do. I do not support pointing fingers at either party, as both parties are equally responsible for the mess This Country is in and nothing gets respolved by finger pointing. Taking responsibility and holding them accountable would.

We aren't quite a thrid world country yet. I am just thankful, I am a dinosaur and will not be effected like those left behind by what their parents, grandparents advocate for and what they refuse to do themselves to preserve This Country.

Just look at how many posters (specifically NTR, USMail)conduct themselves here on the threads. They harbor much hatred, resentment and bitterness, there is hardly any respect or honesty left in the moral compass This Country was founded on. You have a difference of opinion from them and the name calling, lies and misconstruing begin.

NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Are you pro Romney or pro Obama? Those are your options. The rest is simply pie in the sky, and you know it as well as I do. It's a waste of time even discussing it in light of the Topic of the thread and weighing in on which of the TWO candidates will do what about the Pentagon budget and the foodstamp budget.

I promised myself. my family, my four sons who are of the age to get sent to war, my wife and my God I would never again vote for the lesser of two evils. Never again go along to get along. Never again would I work one once of effort for anything but family, friends and community.

I dont just vote, I support. I cant support what I dont believe in, so I will work to destroy the Bush lead GOP and if it takes twenty years, so be it. When the day comes I win, and I will, we will both be better off for it.

I would rather have four more years of Oabama and go down doing what I promised than support Romeny. I will continue, as I have for years, to support my beliefs and vote Ron Paul.

Last time, as a member of the GOP, I wrote in Paul and voted for Dems in the Senate race and House race.

Never will I vote for Obama, he flat out lied about war and I wont support a man who wants to kill my sons for his own political gains.

I served under Reagan, left early after Iran / Contra.....I dont support dealing crack in inner cities to buy guns for rebels. I dont support anything Bush, period.

Marginalize and make fun all you want. Last time we were told we were just dope smokers in moms basement. We got mad and took over the party one county at a time.

LocalBoy wrote:

<quoted text>During our best times econ9omically the US had 70% of its workforce in small businesses.
The idea we need filthy rich like Romeny to create jobs is not just false its down right absurd.
Wall Street doe snot create jobs, they destroy them.
Mainstreet creates jobs, good bosses and socially benevolent companies.
Free market means free access / free entry. Not free to collude and steal, like Wall Street.
Newsflash, Wall Street is not free market.
Capitalism is saved production, Wall Street destroy that with consumption and debt.
Good Grief

Agree and good comment.

NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>Are you pro Romney or pro Obama? Those are your options. The rest is simply pie in the sky, and you know it as well as I do. It's a waste of time even discussing it in light of the Topic of the thread and weighing in on which of the TWO candidates will do what about the Pentagon budget and the foodstamp budget.

????? WHat is this, horse racing. I have to pick a winner ?
No, this is real as the day is long. My grandchildrens future depends on my actions. I want to do something, not be something.

Ghost Rider wrote:

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And yet, none of you obama lovers can point out what effective plan obama has. You claim to be disappointed in him, yet can't say what he will do to improve what he has failed to do so far.
You support socialism and having the wealthy take care of you and others who fraud the system for welfare and disability.

Excuse me, but that's your realm - the others enabling thingy. We know that.

Yes, I've said why I prefer him. He wants to end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest. He wants to elminate corporate tax write-offs but reduce corporate tax rates which will boast small business - a place where jobs creation typically takes place. Please read the article from The Huffington Post which describes what he wants to do to stimulate onshore production. His plan does not go far enough, but it doesn't rely solely on slashing social welfare programs and then following up with what amounts to a tax increase on the upper 19% of the middle class. Frankly, I'm on their team. I want the middle class to prosper again and the benefit of any increase in GDP to be spread across all income categories, not 87% of it going to the 1%. Oh, h*ll no. We've had more than enough of that inequity.

He was inexperienced when he took office. I think he's been baptized by fire, and I think he has enough experience now to know better how to achieve some of his objectives. His opponent (the etch-a-sketch candidate) has shown no consistency in what he's about other than extending the policies of George Bush, and as such, further increasing the polarity of wealth in this country.

We can't even figure out at this late stage of the season where he REALLY stands on how to handle illegal immigration. I don't like Obama's deal, but at least I know what it is. This "self-deportation" policy is a joke, and my fear is that the status quo would continue with NO resolution in sight while we wait for folks to decide to "self-deport" as the basic solution. Right. He's a bona fide member of the 1% club, so out of touch with American regulars, it's not funny. It really isn't funny how out of touch the Romneys are. When's the last time you paid $999.00 for a short sleeved cotton tee shirt designed to be worn with jeans? Sigh. What he learned to do at Bain Capital was how to buy cheap, break apart and sell off and reap profit. That does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Tony wrote:

Romney a true American is a big laugh. Romney has sent his money to foreign banks and he will send jobs to foreign countries also. Romney just another tax payer welfare king.

Well, he won't have to go far after this administration.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/09/2791266...

LocalBoy wrote:

<quoted text>A couple who makes 84,000 a year with thre kids does not pay federal income tax. They pat SS / Medicare and State and local income tax.
It has nothing to do with Obama, this has been going for a long time.
Besides - there is no difference in the two parties...

"A couple who makes 84,000 a year with thre kids does not pay federal income tax. They pat SS / Medicare and State and local income tax."

Uh, yeah they do.

I agree, both parties are equally responsible for the mess they created and allowed to be created by the corrupt big businesses.
They are all a bunch of wh*res with an out of control disease..

LocalBoy wrote:

<quoted text>I promised myself. my family, my four sons who are of the age to get sent to war, my wife and my God I would never again vote for the lesser of two evils. Never again go along to get along. Never again would I work one once of effort for anything but family, friends and community.
I dont just vote, I support. I cant support what I dont believe in, so I will work to destroy the Bush lead GOP and if it takes twenty years, so be it. When the day comes I win, and I will, we will both be better off for it.
I would rather have four more years of Oabama and go down doing what I promised than support Romeny. I will continue, as I have for years, to support my beliefs and vote Ron Paul.
Last time, as a member of the GOP, I wrote in Paul and voted for Dems in the Senate race and House race.
Never will I vote for Obama, he flat out lied about war and I wont support a man who wants to kill my sons for his own political gains.
I served under Reagan, left early after Iran / Contra.....I dont support dealing crack in inner cities to buy guns for rebels. I dont support anything Bush, period.
Marginalize and make fun all you want. Last time we were told we were just dope smokers in moms basement. We got mad and took over the party one county at a time.

I am NOT marginalizing what you want to do. We desperately need a new party. I'm 100% in favor. But, you don't have four years of organizing in order to get the word out and a focus in place RIGHT NOW. You are only dealing with the here and now right now. Continue working to bring something new and fresh to politics. I'm not against you doing that, and I'm sorry if it seemed as though I was. I'm only discussing what lies ahead for THIS particular election, and there isn't enough time left for something brand new to catch fire enough to do anything but interfere with the process. That's just an opinion.

I'm all in favor of this country and her people finding a new way to get her back on track. God bless you in finding a more balanced and fair approach to freedom and liberty for ALL.

The Obama is either just a complete moron or his is destroying America on purpose.
No one could be this foolish. He has to be doing it on purpose

In a capitalist society it is supposed to work like this, and it has.

Man labors at job building something. Brings home his pay and pays the bills, the left over is saved. This savings is called capital.
Man takes his excess savings, retirement and such, and places into the local bank, where he knows the owners because they live in his community. THe banker takes the deposit and pays interest.

As the workers wages accumlate the banker begins to make loans, for more production, by loaning this capital to the workers boss. The boss finances his adventure and you have growth. The employee and boss is vested into each other, they need each other.

When you print capital out of thin air and give it to your buddies the value of money goes down, making savings almost impossible. Plus when the interest rates get down to 2% one cant afford to risk it in the market.

Consumer credit was written about by our founders. We simply got arrogant wanted to live beyond our means and not work for our capital.

"I hope a tax will be preferred [to a loan which threatens to saddle us with a perpetual debt], because it will awaken the attention of the people and make reformation and economy the principle of the next election. The frequent recurrence of this chastening operation can alone restrain the propensity of governments to enlarge expense beyond income." - Thomas Jefferson

"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

The Hispanic vote and The Blk Vote...say goodbye
They neither like Gay people.Homosexuality doesnt go far in their cultures

Good Bye OH Bama 2012!!!!!!

HATE wrote:

Oh yea cut off the poor sick and old so we can BUILD MORE BOMBS AND START MORE WARS........Typical fascist GOP crap.

lol i agree with you the republicans caused the problem in the first place

NTRPRNR1 wrote:

<quoted text>I am NOT marginalizing what you want to do. We desperately need a new party. I'm 100% in favor. But, you don't have four years of organizing in order to get the word out and a focus in place RIGHT NOW. You are only dealing with the here and now right now. Continue working to bring something new and fresh to politics. I'm not against you doing that, and I'm sorry if it seemed as though I was. I'm only discussing what lies ahead for THIS particular election, and there isn't enough time left for something brand new to catch fire enough to do anything but interfere with the process. That's just an opinion.
I'm all in favor of this country and her people finding a new way to get her back on track. God bless you in finding a more balanced and fair approach to freedom and liberty for ALL.

what is needed is a party tha 1ends the fed 2 audits the fed 3 try convict the real terriosts the bankers and jail them for life

LocalBoy wrote:

<quoted text>During our best times econ9omically the US had 70% of its workforce in small businesses.
The idea we need filthy rich like Romeny to create jobs is not just false its down right absurd.
Wall Street doe snot create jobs, they destroy them.
Mainstreet creates jobs, good bosses and socially benevolent companies.
Free market means free access / free entry. Not free to collude and steal, like Wall Street.
Newsflash, Wall Street is not free market.
Capitalism is saved production, Wall Street destroy that with consumption and debt.
Good Grief

I'm not on the wall street band wagon of being for them or against them like many here are. I am for those who have aspirations in life and are not able to move forward, not without a budget in place and knowing what future taxes will be applied to them. The govt controls that aspect, not wall street. However both have the citizens going in circles chasing their tails instead of holding them responsible and accountable for failure to do their job/s.

Ron Paul will not be elected POTUS or get the ticket for that matter. Hate to poop in your cheerios, but it is what it is...