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San Pasqual Trouble Threatens SD County Casino

The tribal government of the San Pasqual Indian band has collapsed, which could force the closure of the Valley View Casino in San Diego County , according to the Bureau of Indian Affairs .

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Ninja
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Aug 3, 2008
 
Scalp him!!!!!you glorified mexicans
Walt
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Aug 4, 2008
 
These casinos hurt the down trodden and the poor. Everyone involved with them should be arrested. Thank God the rise in gas prices and brought a decline to the money the lower classes lose to the casinos. I will never understand why citizen groups do not arrest these casino people using the power of "citizen's arrest". I will also never understand why the home owners whose well water has run dry have not physically attacked the establishments responsible. Going through courts will get them exactly where they presently are: no where.
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Aug 4, 2008
 
Hi -

Do you honestly think after a million years of being human...200,000 years of 'colored' races intermingling, that mathematically anyone is pure Red, Yellow or any other race? In any case, why should 50 or so ruin it for the others. I say give the Indians an 'in' at even a proven 50 to 75 percent 'pure'- Of all the minorities, the American Indian is the least of the whiners and snivelers. Give them a break...'for the Lone Ranger and Tonto.

The Indians are helping to show Americans to lighten up and put commerce over sophistry.

Light and Life,
James Patrick Lacy
Jacumba, CA
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Aug 4, 2008
 
I think it is a quite uneducated statement that the casino's hurt the poor. First I'd like to apologize if you think I am insensitive. However, people have choices. You do not have to choose to spend your dollars (rich or poor) at the casino. It is not the fault of the casino that some people are out of control gamblers. Do you also refer to arresting alcohol distributers for the problems of the alcoholic? It is the problem of the individual. When is the individual going to take responsibility for their own actions and quit using an out when blaming others.
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Aug 4, 2008
 
The basis of my action against the casino people would be my irreversible decision that they constituted a danger to the poor. Therefore, though I would acknowledge such arguments as your's as having been uttered, I would proceed in a feverish and fanatical manner to haul each and every casino person to a court of law where they would be found guilty and summarily executed.

Thank you.
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Aug 4, 2008
 
I hope they sort this out. I would hate to see Valley View close. They just did alot of work up there and are now having concerts. If someone is old enought and makes the decision to drive up to the casino and put money in a machine or on a table, they are old enough to "pay the price". If you can't pay, don't play. Addictions are hard to deal with, whether it is gambling or food or shopping online. Get help if you need it!
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Aug 4, 2008
 
Karen,

I am unsympathetic regarding the needs of the casino people to exploit the downtrodden. I would not hesitate, were it in my power, to drag each and everyone involved in profiting off of such addiction, to the closest river and drown them without even the need to a trial by jury. I have seen too much suffering caused by this greed and too much stupidity exploited.

Let's hope this casino closes and all others throughout this country. And don;t think this $ goes to the NA - it goes to the wealthy gambling industry that is able to corrupt our justice and political system. That is why a large mob like mass, equiped with the passions of the heart, screaming and shrieking for justice, should descend upon the evil ones and drag them kicking to the waters of judgement beneath which they will disappear for eternity.
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Aug 5, 2008
 
Yes walt keeps proving he is a moron.
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Aug 5, 2008
 
Walt wrote:
Karen,
I am unsympathetic regarding the needs of the casino people to exploit the downtrodden. I would not hesitate, were it in my power, to drag each and everyone involved in profiting off of such addiction, to the closest river and drown them without even the need to a trial by jury. I have seen too much suffering caused by this greed and too much stupidity exploited.
Let's hope this casino closes and all others throughout this country. And don;t think this $ goes to the NA - it goes to the wealthy gambling industry that is able to corrupt our justice and political system. That is why a large mob like mass, equiped with the passions of the heart, screaming and shrieking for justice, should descend upon the evil ones and drag them kicking to the waters of judgement beneath which they will disappear for eternity.Dude, you're wacked out.
dude, you're wacked out!
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Aug 5, 2008
 
Walt wrote:
Karen,
I am unsympathetic regarding the needs of the casino people to exploit the downtrodden. I would not hesitate, were it in my power, to drag each and everyone involved in profiting off of such addiction, to the closest river and drown them without even the need to a trial by jury. I have seen too much suffering caused by this greed and too much stupidity exploited.
Let's hope this casino closes and all others throughout this country. And don;t think this $ goes to the NA - it goes to the wealthy gambling industry that is able to corrupt our justice and political system. That is why a large mob like mass, equiped with the passions of the heart, screaming and shrieking for justice, should descend upon the evil ones and drag them kicking to the waters of judgement beneath which they will disappear for eternity.
Exactly how do you exploit the poor and the downtrodden with an activity that requires something they don't, by definition, have; namely, money.
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Aug 5, 2008
 
Paul,

By providing them penny, nickel and dime slot machines. Furthermore thay are poor precisely because of these parasitical establishments.

Arrest everyone involved.
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Aug 5, 2008
 
Jimmy wrote:
Paul,
By providing them penny, nickel and dime slot machines. Furthermore thay are poor precisely because of these parasitical establishments.
Arrest everyone involved.
Actually, most poor people are poor because they are uneducated, out of work, lazy, irresponsible, or just not very good financial planners. I'm sure there are a few who blow their life savings, or worse their rent money, on gambling but they fall into a catagory of their own. It's called stupid. Next you'll want to hold gun manufacturers responsible for crime.
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Aug 6, 2008
 
People are poor because their resources are stolen by the wealthy, plain and simple. It is therefore socially justified to use whatever means necessary to disrupt the theft of property. These casinos are nothing more than criminal enterprises and should be shut down by the state or by society in the form of large masslike groupings of people whose movements are motivated by the heartfelt emotions of fairness and retributive justice.
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Aug 6, 2008
 
Not too long ago even being 1/8th indian ... or native american or indigenous person WHATEVER the politically correct title is these days... meant you were an indian. Guess there's discrimination everywhere!
paul felenczak
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Aug 6, 2008
 
Jerry wrote:
People are poor because their resources are stolen by the wealthy, plain and simple. It is therefore socially justified to use whatever means necessary to disrupt the theft of property. These casinos are nothing more than criminal enterprises and should be shut down by the state or by society in the form of large masslike groupings of people whose movements are motivated by the heartfelt emotions of fairness and retributive justice.
You sound like a jealous, poor person.
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Aug 6, 2008
 
Actually, no fibbing, I am a well off generous person. But the two, for me at least, go hand in hand.

I see nothing wrong, though, with poor people being jealous providing that jealousy motivates them to seek distribute justice. There is nothing wrong with poor people simply taking what they need from the wealthy. Now obviously they will be subject to arrest but that is all the "legal" system is about: protecting the property of those who have from those who do not.
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Aug 6, 2008
 
Jerry wrote:
Actually, no fibbing, I am a well off generous person. But the two, for me at least, go hand in hand.
I see nothing wrong, though, with poor people being jealous providing that jealousy motivates them to seek distribute justice. There is nothing wrong with poor people simply taking what they need from the wealthy. Now obviously they will be subject to arrest but that is all the "legal" system is about: protecting the property of those who have from those who do not.
Actually, you're almost correct. The legal system is about protecting the property of those who have PERIOD.
Jerry
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Aug 7, 2008
 
Paul,

Right, which makes it irrelevant to those who don't have.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
Jerry wrote:
Paul,
Right, which makes it irrelevant to those who don't have.
You have our poor confused with the poor in other countries. Very few people in the US have nothing. Even our poor have a roof over their head, cars, televisions, etc. In some countries our poor would be considered upper middle class. As far as those you speak of who don't have I would suggest they go and get a job.
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#20
Aug 7, 2008
 
Right, but the ones that need something which they don't have, then they should take what they need. Like the elderly couple who were too poor to afford the script. A young man intervened and literally beat the pharmacist until he was unconscious. I think that was a very heroic and courageous thing for the young man to do. Or the individual who held up the gas station with a simple ice pick and stole back what had been stolen from the citizens. I find such behavior praiseworthy in the moral or ethical sense of the action. Of course I condemn it from a legal point of view but only because it is technically "criminal".
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