needed to be moved here

Crystal City, TX

#41 May 1, 2012
First it was Cain and his followers V ReneRamirez and his followers and all the cursing and now it's against someone else Wow a PREACHER who came to DESTROY I thought it was the DEVIL who came to Kill Steal,Destroy are Cain followers so blind as to what is happening or u guys just plain dumb,Cain you and your people should be Ashamed or is it so easy for you to curse someone then ask for Forgiveness and start looking for others to Destroy Shame on you and all your followers who believe that what you are doing is okay and they continue to Stand By You as Christianity is brought down by your Actions ,who was this other person that Ordained you and saw something in you that most of Uvalde can't see because you are a Cruel Person out to bring down who ever doesn't see your vision Wow you are really something and to you followers ???
Rose

United States

#43 May 1, 2012
and wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a good Christian church - a lot of people like it because the pastor has a good attitude, even though he does seem to misinterpret passages sometimes. The good thing is that people there praise God's name.
It is unthinkable for a pastor to misinterpret scriptures! I dont care how good his attitude is, he is misleading his flock.
Atypical Stereotype.

Eagle Pass, TX

#44 May 2, 2012
Rose wrote:
<quoted text>It is unthinkable for a pastor to misinterpret scriptures! I dont care how good his attitude is, he is misleading his flock.
Bitch... Religious denominations are based off everybody misinterpreting passages and sticking to a church that fulfills their needs.
Diana

Belle Plaine, MN

#45 May 2, 2012
[QUOTE who="Atypical Stereotype."]<quoted text>
Bitch... Religious denominations are based off everybody misinterpreting passages and sticking to a church that fulfills their needs.[/QUOTE]

man-centered religion (its all about me and my needs, don't tell me truth, just tell me what i want to hear) will lead you straight to hell.

God-centered religion (Jesus born, lived, suffered, died and resurrected for the sin of mankind, requiring repentence and turning from sin) on the other hand will get even deceived people saved.

truth is not relative ... the absolute TRUTH of the inerrant Word of God is not open to interpretation, no matter what deceived people think.
ENOUGH

San Antonio, TX

#46 May 2, 2012
This is so stupid. I have sat here and read all these posts on Haven Grace and can not believe how hateful and ignorant some people can be. First of all, I have attended Haven Grace Church before and saw nothing wrong. I was greeted at the door and felt welcomed. Everyone was nice and made me feel at ease. Once the praise and worship started my spirit was awoken. Pastor Will Cains sermon was awesome. I can truly say my relationship with God has grown. I have developed a relationship with most of the congretation and know they are not the ones coming on here commenting. It is so obvious this is the work of one person influencing others to destroy HG. I no longer attend HG, but only because I am not able to due to personal reasons. But I felt I had to come on and speak my mind. Pastor Cain has been very patient and has proven that he is answering his call, any other man would have left and not looked back at a town where his name had been dragged thru the mud. No one has ever comes out and said anything substantial to taint his name. All just gossip from so call Christians. No wonder we are bashed by other churches.
Rose

United States

#47 May 2, 2012
[QUOTE who="Atypical Stereotype."]<quoted text>
Bitch... Religious denominations are based off everybody misinterpreting passages and sticking to a church that fulfills their needs.[/QUOTE]

That's is why I study at home and make my own personal observations. I pray and conclude what I feel GOD has lead me to understand. I am open to new understanding, but I read scriptures in their original context to make sure the idea is Biblical.
Atypical Stereotype.

San Antonio, TX

#48 May 2, 2012
All of these religions are god centered. You have denominations because of other peoples needs and views (Church of England for example. I will say that the "word" of god is based on how people view the text.

Put it this way. Look at the following sentence and tell me the correct punctuation.

Woman without her man is nothing

Look down and see what I mean

Woman, without her man, is nothing.
Woman: Without her, man is nothing.

See what I mean?
Diana

United States

#49 May 2, 2012
[QUOTE who="Atypical Stereotype."]All of these religions are god centered. You have denominations because of other peoples needs and views (Church of England for example. I will say that the "word" of god is based on how people view the text.
Put it this way. Look at the following sentence and tell me the correct punctuation.
Woman without her man is nothing
Look down and see what I mean
Woman, without her man, is nothing.
Woman: Without her, man is nothing.
See what I mean?
[/QUOTE]
you are correct...most religions are god centered, it's just not all of them worship the one true God, the God of the bible. I know, you are going to tell me people interpret the bible in different ways, which is also correct...but just because people do these things does not make it right, or biblical.
the things of God are spiritually discerned and are foolishness to those who are perishing...punctuation, has nothing to do with this truth...you either have faith the God is who He says He is, or you don't...but just because you don't, doesn't make you right.
polla

United States

#50 May 2, 2012
So where is Archbitch Calvinus? bet he looks good in all that red color.
no idea

Crystal City, TX

#54 May 7, 2012
i had no idea people could just follow any person with no credentials until i saw this. this guy is really gonna do these people wrong-i feel so bad and pray much for them.
what

Carrizo Springs, TX

#55 May 8, 2012
no idea wrote:
i had no idea people could just follow any person with no credentials until i saw this. this guy is really gonna do these people wrong-i feel so bad and pray much for them.
He has credentials. He is licensed and ordained threw a very creditable organization (Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches.) I had no idea that as much as people talk HavenGrace continues to prosper. God bless everyone.:)
martin

Fort Worth, TX

#56 May 8, 2012
I had a DREAM! That one day any man or woman of any religion catholic, Christian, and atheist would come together and love one another! Lol
Diana

Le Center, MN

#58 May 8, 2012
@what
i think you meant "through", not "threw"
...just because a church is growing, people are giving $$$, etc., etc., does not mean God is prospering it ... satan can prosper things too you know, especially if it keeps people right where he wants them ... deceived!

@martin
don't know about your dream, but one day EVERY knee will bow and proclaim JESUS IS LORD ... hope you find yourself on the right side of that truth :)!
Ray

San Antonio, TX

#59 May 8, 2012
Cain if you care about Souls where were you last thursday when Uvalde had National Day Of Prayer, other local Pastors were there,? was it cause there u cant pick up an $$$ offering for yourself :),Cain what u Sow u will Reap,what u did on getty st you will Reap its a matter of time DIVISION,DIVISION is this the type of people that come out of Communion Of Evangelical Episcopal Churches SHAME on Them,what is creditable about them to send out people to create DIVISION on the body of Christ what amount of $ did you pay to get your Credentials SHAME,SHAME is what u should have.
Henry

San Antonio, TX

#60 May 8, 2012
What did he do on getty st
maria

San Antonio, TX

#61 May 8, 2012
i heard he was with a child from the daycare behind closed doors ?.
8-/

Fort Worth, TX

#62 May 8, 2012
I heard he was selling black market organs to drug cartels! Lol
on the real

Eagle Pass, TX

#64 May 9, 2012
Peter wrote:
Churches are for weak-minded people.
I'm sure Jesus did not want or intend for his gospel to be twisted as it has for centuries by Churches. Churches are big business that take alot of money from poor innocent individuals that rely on them for faith. If you truly have faith, you can have god in your heart and pray to him from your house.
These Churches make me sick, preying on poor people, have them all brainwashed. The so called priests are the worst criminals.
Amen Peter!!! Amen!!!
8-/

Dallas, TX

#65 May 10, 2012
I heard he was raping Martians on planet URANUS!!! Lol
Unknown

Arlington, TX

#66 May 10, 2012
Diana will God be happy with you for trying to tear down a man of God?
I attend this church and I love the way he preaches. I love the way he prays, I live the way he loves his wife and family. I believe he is a good man. For those of you that left Havengrace, i miss you.. But I think the church weeded out some gossipers, worriers, and that I don't miss...
I'm not perfect, neither is Cain, neither are you.
Pray for everyone, lift everyone up, encourage everyone but most importantly LOVE everyone...
Right Diana. Why don't you preach that?

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