New York State's $13M Adirondack land purchase a boon to recreation

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New York State has money problems and with all the change in State, County, and City Government because on money issues. Plus layoffs and demotions state wide in towns and cities,and lets not forget programs ended they still have millions to buy land. WTF is wrong with this.
Yes I know that State Departments have budgets , but lets not slap the the tax payers and citizens of the state in the face. The money could have been better used to help the people.

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ALBANY —
World-class canoe and kayak waters will be open to the public within a few months when the first phase of New York’s plan to buy 69,000 acres of Adirondack land is completed, officials said Monday.
“This deal will open some really exciting new recreational opportunities to the public,” said Mike Carr, executive director of the Adirondack Nature Conservancy.“The Essex Chain Lakes will be the first. This is a really special collection of more than nine lakes and ponds, beautiful frontage on the Hudson and Cedar rivers and two mountains higher than 2,000 feet.”
The 18,000-acre Essex Chain parcel, about 90 miles north of Albany near the town of Newcomb, will be acquired by the state for $13 million using money set aside for land acquisition in the Environmental Protection Fund, Carr said.
There is no set date for closing on the rest of the land.
Several hunting clubs have leases within the tracts through 2018, but those leases amount to only about 2,000 acres that will be off-limits to the public until the leases end, said conservancy spokeswoman Connie Prickett said.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced Sunday that the state has agreed to purchase 69,000 acres of land from The Nature Conservancy for $49.8 million. The land includes about a dozen scattered parcels that were part of 161,000 acres the conservancy bought from the Finch Pruyn timber company in 2007.
Department of Environmental Conservation Commissioner Joe Martens said Monday that the purchase will be completed in stages over five years, with the Essex Chain purchase to be completed this fall.
DEC spokeswoman Emily DeSantis said the agency is working with the conservancy to open access to land at the confluence of the Hudson and Indian rivers this fall so kayakers can paddle down the gently flowing Hudson from Newcomb and exit before the big whitewater of the Hudson gorge. State purchase of that land will come later, she said.
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Just keep it "Forever Wild" is all we ask.
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The land purchase was a great move by NYS. Nice that they want to preserve the adirondack area, now let's just hope they ban all fracking in the rest of NYS to preserve the natural resources EVERYWHERE.
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All For It wrote:
The land purchase was a great move by NYS. Nice that they want to preserve the adirondack area, now let's just hope they ban all fracking in the rest of NYS to preserve the natural resources EVERYWHERE.
Ignorance at its finest yet again. Hydrofracking can be done safely and effectively. No one is proposing they do it in the Adirondacks and there isn't shale in that part of the state regardless. So it's a moot point. But knowing that would actually mean researching something before you run your mouth. And New Yorkers just do not know how to do that.
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So it's ok to buy land and spend millions of dollars on property. Where the money could have been useful by spending on other places. Screw the workers and employees in the state, towns, villages and cities. where the money can help families and economy.
Screw the Gov't services to the people of New York
Oh lets now forget the removing the property off the tax rolls.
Common sense at it's best
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Now the state should open up the land to select harvest of timber and that would lead to jobs and better conditions for the deer up north. That would jump start NY's economy.
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Ignorance at its finest yet again. Hydrofracking can be done safely and effectively. No one is proposing they do it in the Adirondacks and there isn't shale in that part of the state regardless. So it's a moot point. But knowing that would actually mean researching something before you run your mouth. And New Yorkers just do not know how to do that.
You missed the point completely and if you think hydofracking can be done safely at this time, you are the ignorant one.
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actually hydrofracking can be done safely and you can ask the thousands of land owners in Texas and Oklahoma who lives in the midst of it and have for decades. They love it. Why? It creates jobs, brings a boost to local economies, and they collect royalty checks. take your liberal nonsense elsewhere.
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This is a topic about NYS buying ADK land, eh? Not about fracking. By the way, oil and gas companies aren't interested in NYS anymore. They've moved their efforts to Ohio. NYS is too much of a hassle for them and not worth it anymore. Can't say I blame em.
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actually hydrofracking can be done safely and you can ask the thousands of land owners in Texas and Oklahoma who lives in the midst of it and have for decades. They love it. Why? It creates jobs, brings a boost to local economies, and they collect royalty checks. take your liberal nonsense elsewhere.
"safe hydofracking" is an oxymoron, you may just be a moron. Google THE SKY IS PINK.
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Wonder if there is any truth to the rumor I heard that the property was owned by Mario Cuomo the our former Governor and father of our current Governor ?

can anyone confirm this
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I belong to one of those hunting clubs, and we leases 2,000 acres and that is just one hunting club, so were does connie prickett get her facts?
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Canoes and kayaks, bullsh*t. Where's the hunting and fishing access? Where's the motor boat access? Stop putting land into forever wild, it's the biggest crock of sh*t since the democrat party was hatched.
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I <3 ADK
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What everyone doesn't seem to understand is that this land will likely be extremely inaccessable to 99% of the population. You have to walk several miles through very rugged backcountry to get to anything.

Right now this property is the home to several sportsmans clubs who have loved and cared for this land for close to 100 years. They bring a lot of revenue to both the area towns, and the current landowners. They have tried to negotiate with the state and current owners. They have offered public access, yet ways to keep the clubs intact by purchasing a small amount of the property for themselves with stewardship and hunting/fishing right agreements on a larger portion of the land. This type of agreement would save the state hundreds of thousands of dollars. The state and the current owners were not willing to consider this as an option.

Once the state has the property, they will close the roads, put up barriers, and throw away the key.

NYS Taxpayers - you just purchased an expensive piece of property that very, very few people will be able to use. Congratulations.
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Kelli wrote:
What everyone doesn't seem to understand is that this land will likely be extremely inaccessable to 99% of the population. You have to walk several miles through very rugged backcountry to get to anything.
Right now this property is the home to several sportsmans clubs who have loved and cared for this land for close to 100 years. They bring a lot of revenue to both the area towns, and the current landowners. They have tried to negotiate with the state and current owners. They have offered public access, yet ways to keep the clubs intact by purchasing a small amount of the property for themselves with stewardship and hunting/fishing right agreements on a larger portion of the land. This type of agreement would save the state hundreds of thousands of dollars. The state and the current owners were not willing to consider this as an option.
Once the state has the property, they will close the roads, put up barriers, and throw away the key.
NYS Taxpayers - you just purchased an expensive piece of property that very, very few people will be able to use. Congratulations.
It's no surprise. Our current governor is a scum bag only looking out for himself and his political interests and the freaking press is in love with him no matter how corrupt he is. What a joke. Can't wait to get out of this god forsakin state.
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in 1995 when the microburst occurred up there and devasted a mile wide swath of woods from Carthage up through to Saranc/lake Placid, then Gov Patai was persuaded by a tree hugger group NOT to go in and logg off the FALLEN timber only. The argument was that this type of event had never occurred before and they wanted to use it as an experiment to see how long the woods would take to return to its natural state. In other words, to see how long it would take for the trees to rot down. I stopped hunting up there for ten years as the woods were not navigable without climbing on 30 ft plus windfalls of trees stacked on top of one another like match sticks. By not harvesting the fallen timber, state estimates as high as 44 BILLION dollars were lost. A canadian logging company who exclusively logs using horses offered to come in so that the "forever wild" could be kept in tact. They were denied. It is also stimated that approx. 10,000 deer were killed during that storm which devasted the lacking herd as it was. However, in the last several years, snowmobile trails have been cut through the woods to connect the trail system to Cnanada' trails. Thats NY for you.Even today there are virgin Cherry trees still on the ground in those woods, and I mean 80 to 100 ft long. Alot of money sitting there. The state caters to the hikers and canoeists up in that area and very little to the fisherman or hunter. NY missed the boat on this one, again, as usual
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All For It wrote:
The land purchase was a great move by NYS. Nice that they want to preserve the adirondack area, now let's just hope they ban all fracking in the rest of NYS to preserve the natural resources EVERYWHERE.
Looks like you bought into the anti fracking bs hook ,line and sinker
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Kelli wrote:
What everyone doesn't seem to understand is that this land will likely be extremely inaccessable to 99% of the population. You have to walk several miles through very rugged backcountry to get to anything.
Right now this property is the home to several sportsmans clubs who have loved and cared for this land for close to 100 years. They bring a lot of revenue to both the area towns, and the current landowners. They have tried to negotiate with the state and current owners. They have offered public access, yet ways to keep the clubs intact by purchasing a small amount of the property for themselves with stewardship and hunting/fishing right agreements on a larger portion of the land. This type of agreement would save the state hundreds of thousands of dollars. The state and the current owners were not willing to consider this as an option.
Once the state has the property, they will close the roads, put up barriers, and throw away the key.
NYS Taxpayers - you just purchased an expensive piece of property that very, very few people will be able to use. Congratulations.
you got it right
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You could clear cut the woods 100 feet off the road and most of the tree huggers would never see it. They are the ones that cry the most and that the stuid Forever Wild is for. Cater to a select few and forget the jobs and income. WAY TO GO NYS!!!!

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