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Melissa
Utica, NY
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Man, woman, children, family's all get screwed. Only people who prosper are the lawyers, judges, social workers, and police. Has anyone out there had a similar experience? This is not a man-woman issue, this is a totally dysfunctional family court system. What can be done to reform this system? It clearly does not work.
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Not Again
Utica, NY
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Is Nick not doing enough for you?
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LifelongUtican
Dalzell, SC
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You are just finding this out now? They (Oneida Co. Family Circus) has been dysfuncional for many years! I have been a victim too! Koziol is going through it now, but trying to change the system. It is a complete sham! They are nothing but azzholes who will hurt as many people as they can and cause as much harm as possible. THey don't care about anyone but themselves. The azzhole lawyers like George Murad, Keith Eisenhut, Peter D'Georgio, and other suckholes that manipulate the courts. These men will all get theirs one day. Judge Morgan was an azzhole and he got cancer and died. Once theses worthless bastards put on the robe... they think they are gods!.uck'em all! Rot in hell you rotten bastards! Ah.... Now I feel better getting that off my chest. Uh... you were saying? Welcome to "our" nightmares! Good luck with that!
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Melissa
Utica, NY
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How does it get exposed? What elected officials are aware of the problems? What elected official will do anything about it?
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LifelongUtican
Dalzell, SC
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No elected official will touch it. They won't upset the apple cart. They have a good thing going on. It is political suicide to do so. If you want answers, I suggest you call Leon Koziol. He is very active in this cause as we speak. Friend him on Facebook and he will respond to you. Good luck!
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Joe
Utica, NY
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You people are all out of your minds. Get a real life.
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EVERY POLLACK IN NY
Utica, NY
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lEON kOZIOL CANT EVEN PAY HIS CHILDREN'S SUPPORT PAYMENTS. EVER NOTICE THE STUPIDEST PERSON IS HIS OWN ATTORNEY? hE THINKS HIS SHIT DOESNT STINK....BUT WE ALL KNOW FULL OF SHIT HE IS. LMAO . nOW HE THINKS HES A MOVIE STAR POSTING HIS STUPID GAY RANTINGS ON YOU TUBE. WHAT AN AZZHOLE, EVER NOTICE THE REAL KOOKS FROM UTICA THINK THEY ARE SMARTER THAN YOU, CAN'T WORK A REAL JOB..KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS ABOUT JERKING OFF THEGAY PARTNER. hE THINKS HIS GF IS A SHE MALE SO THAT MAKES HE/SHE WORTH MARRYING. i DONT ADVISE YOU TO MARRY THIS FAG, HE WONT SUPPORT YOU AFTER HE KNOCKS YOU UP, LORD KNOW THIS...SO DO ALL THE PEOPLE OF ONEIDA COUNTY! Will somebody run this turd burgalor out of town...PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Melissa
Utica, NY
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Leon is not an option. I am a woman and do not agree that this is a man/woman thing. This is a system that derives a benefit for it's dysfunctional continuation. How many judges are there in Oneida County that are tied to this system? How many administrators? How many CPS people? What is their budget? How many police dedicated to Family Court? How many lawyers? How many families? How much $$ is spent by "clients" each month/year to go through the system? Who are the agencies that people are referred to? Where does their funding come from? This cost to society has to be huge! There has to be a better way than this corrupt system? Who is exposing this stuff beyond TOPIX,,,which goes nowhere?
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educated
Utica, NY
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The only time Family Court works for Child Support is when the absentee parent lives in NYS, has a steady job, and his wages can be attached to pay the Court Ordered Child Support. Any diviation from this, Family Court can not and will not do a damn thing to enforce Child Support payments. I know of a case where the father moved to Arizonia and works under the table off the books making very good money. He has avoided making child support payments now for the past 21 years for TWO children!!!! ALL women raising up children on their own should realize that it will end up where she will be the responsible one to support her children as no one can depend upon Family Court to help her.
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Hoo Boy
Utica, NY
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educated wrote: The only time Family Court works for Child Support is when the absentee parent lives in NYS, has a steady job, and his wages can be attached to pay the Court Ordered Child Support. Any diviation from this, Family Court can not and will not do a damn thing to enforce Child Support payments. I know of a case where the father moved to Arizonia and works under the table off the books making very good money. He has avoided making child support payments now for the past 21 years for TWO children!!!! ALL women raising up children on their own should realize that it will end up where she will be the responsible one to support her children as no one can depend upon Family Court to help her. That non supporting parent will be totaly screwed when it comes time to collect social security. He will live in poverty in his retirement years. What goes around comes around.
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Wake Up Folks
Utica, NY
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Our whole court system, state & federal, are screwed up by lying prosecutors and unfit judges. Read "Constitutional Chaos" by retired federal judge Anthony Napolitano. I don't agree with his politics but his view on government criminal behavior and the court's complicity is eye-opening.
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LifelongUtican
Dalzell, SC
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Melissa wrote: Leon is not an option. I am a woman and do not agree that this is a man/woman thing. This is a system that derives a benefit for it's dysfunctional continuation. How many judges are there in Oneida County that are tied to this system? How many administrators? How many CPS people? What is their budget? How many police dedicated to Family Court? How many lawyers? How many families? How much $$ is spent by "clients" each month/year to go through the system? Who are the agencies that people are referred to? Where does their funding come from? This cost to society has to be huge! There has to be a better way than this corrupt system? Who is exposing this stuff beyond TOPIX,,,which goes nowhere? Uh.....see previous advice...Koziol!
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Short Bus Rider
Utica, NY
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EVERY POLLACK IN NY wrote: lEON kOZIOL CANT EVEN PAY HIS CHILDREN'S SUPPORT PAYMENTS. EVER NOTICE THE STUPIDEST PERSON IS HIS OWN ATTORNEY? hE THINKS HIS SHIT DOESNT STINK....BUT WE ALL KNOW FULL OF SHIT HE IS. LMAO . nOW HE THINKS HES A MOVIE STAR POSTING HIS STUPID GAY RANTINGS ON YOU TUBE. WHAT AN AZZHOLE, EVER NOTICE THE REAL KOOKS FROM UTICA THINK THEY ARE SMARTER THAN YOU, CAN'T WORK A REAL JOB..KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS ABOUT JERKING OFF THEGAY PARTNER. hE THINKS HIS GF IS A SHE MALE SO THAT MAKES HE/SHE WORTH MARRYING. i DONT ADVISE YOU TO MARRY THIS FAG, HE WONT SUPPORT YOU AFTER HE KNOCKS YOU UP, LORD KNOW THIS...SO DO ALL THE PEOPLE OF ONEIDA COUNTY! Will somebody run this turd burgalor out of town...PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Judging by the way you write and express your ideas, everyone is smarter than you.
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its stupid
Utica, NY
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I agree. at 15 my dad got arrested for not paying money to pay my mom. My mom and I argued about this for months and I still don't agree with her way of thinking and swore to treat my children different no matter who i get to be their father. After all, he owed me more than anyone else and ALL I EVER WANTED WAS TO SEE MY DAD and hoped he would have some money when I saw him. I wished he were better about paying money to me and my mom and paid what the judge said he should, but that was nothing compared to not having him around. As a teenager I went through alot not having my father to talk when I needed a man's adice. I love my mom but I think the whole thing is supporting shelfish behavior. The court should try to make parents spend time with their children not money.
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its stupid
Utica, NY
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educated wrote: The only time Family Court works for Child Support is when the absentee parent lives in NYS, has a steady job, and his wages can be attached to pay the Court Ordered Child Support. Any diviation from this, Family Court can not and will not do a damn thing to enforce Child Support payments. I know of a case where the father moved to Arizonia and works under the table off the books making very good money. He has avoided making child support payments now for the past 21 years for TWO children!!!! ALL women raising up children on their own should realize that it will end up where she will be the responsible one to support her children as no one can depend upon Family Court to help her. You should be more worried about your children not knowing their father. YOu sound like my mother complaining to me about not getting enough money for me from my dad.
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Hey stupid
Utica, NY
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its stupid wrote: <quoted text>You should be more worried about your children not knowing their father. YOu sound like my mother complaining to me about not getting enough money for me from my dad. Why do you think your mother wanted money from your father in the first place? It wasn't selfishness. It was to put a roof over your head, clothes on your back, and food on the table. Why should the mother be left with the sole burden of providing for the children when it should be an equal thing? I am sorry to say it but if a man refuses to help support his child it shows a lack of caring on his part. Did your mother refuse to support you but want to be in your life anyway? Where would you be then? If your mother was complaining it was probably because of how hard it was to provide for you needs and wants all on her own without help. I don't think that society should have to pick up the slack on fathers that don't want to take care of their responsibilities in the form of food stamps, etc. Not saying your mother had to accept help, but it happens a lot. If your father went to jail then you can be sure it was because he had a way to provide for you and just refused to do it. The only reason for that would be out of spite to make your mother's life harder (and that is truly selfish and mean) or because he didn't care enough about you to sacrifice what he wanted to do for himself with the money. Real parents(like your mother) do what it takes and make sacrifices for their children's well being and happiness. I hope this was a fake post because it is really sad that any child would make excuses and feel sorry for a father that refused to take care of them when he was well able and gave their mother (that did take care of them) such a hard time.
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its stupid
Utica, NY
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Hey stupid wrote: Why do you think your mother wanted money from your father in the first place? It wasn't selfishness. It was to put a roof over your head, clothes on your back, and food on the table. Why should the mother be left with the sole burden of providing for the children when it should be an equal thing? I am sorry to say it but if a man refuses to help support his child it shows a lack of caring on his part. Did your mother refuse to support you but want to be in your life anyway? Where would you be then? If your mother was complaining it was probably because of how hard it was to provide for you needs and wants all on her own without help. I don't think that society should have to pick up the slack on fathers that don't want to take care of their responsibilities in the form of food stamps, etc. Not saying your mother had to accept help, but it happens a lot. If your father went to jail then you can be sure it was because he had a way to provide for you and just refused to do it. The only reason for that would be out of spite to make your mother's life harder (and that is truly selfish and mean) or because he didn't care enough about you to sacrifice what he wanted to do for himself with the money. Real parents(like your mother) do what it takes and make sacrifices for their children's well being and happiness. I hope this was a fake post because it is really sad that any child would make excuses and feel sorry for a father that refused to take care of them when he was well able and gave their mother (that did take care of them) such a hard time. You don’t know what you’re talking about. My mother and father had two or three court battles over me, my father won the first and my mother won second or second two, not sure. I love both my parents so I will NEVER see it the way you do. If I lived with my dad I would love my mom the same, Idc if she gave my dad a dollar (according them both she didn’t when I was young living with my dad) Don’t get me wrong, I love my mom for everything she did for me but she is my mom. And I know she wanted me dearly because she fought for me in court. That doesn’t change how I feel about my dad. Maybe he’s making up for lost time, but as an adult I can count on my dad for anything and he is the first person I call when I have a need. I got 2 brothers that I now know but I never knew growing up because of the rift the money caused. Yes, I would’ve wanted the extra money in the house but it wasn’t worth the problems. I still got a car as a teenager while my brothers living with my dad walked to school. I guess we all see what we want. I know I am not alone. Most of my friends who had similar life experiences feel the same way. Every one of us will choose a parent over money. I now have 2 and no amount of money in the world could make me happier. Even my mother is softening her position now that she’s aged a little. I hope you do too because it’s supposed to be about the children not your lifestyle or struggles. If you’re like my mom you fought for the right to have those struggles. I’m glad she did, but live life afterward and be thankful for what we have. My words would be unchanged if it were my dad. I’m not stupid for thinking different than you. I would say you’re stupid for letting money affect your happiness. The happiness of material things don’t last long and most of these single mothers need to hear that message. The energy spent trying to obtain funds should be spent ensuring a child has a father in their life because if they’re anything like me it means so much more than money.
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Baubles
Oneida, NY
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Hoo Boy wrote: <quoted text> That non supporting parent will be totaly screwed when it comes time to collect social security. He will live in poverty in his retirement years. What goes around comes around. Exactly! These dead beats think that they've got a sweet deal and "more money." Then they'll be the first to sit around and whine when their emotionally well-adjusted buddies get social security benefits, can apply for loans, can have a credit check for any number of reasons without worrying about the score, and who are eligible for disability or workers comp protections. Then of course there's that 401K or other benefits that an on-the-payroll job offers. "Under the Table" puts the screws short term to the custodial parent, and forever to the idiot who thinks that not supporting children as the other parent does makes them look slick and resourceful. They actually think that by not paying child support AND not paying any taxes that it's win-win, but in the long run, watch how they always live: constantly in a state of chaos, always scrambling to cover their tracks. Idiots, all of them. Some of them think they've got a lot of cash flow now. In 30 years...watch them cry and blame someone else for their stupidity.
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educated
Utica, NY
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its stupid wrote: <quoted text>You should be more worried about your children not knowing their father. YOu sound like my mother complaining to me about not getting enough money for me from my dad. For your information, two of his chilren found his address on the computer and called him. Guess what he said to them? He didn't want to be bothered and told both of them never to call him again. This is exactly why he moved out of NYS - to avoid any responsibility to the two children he helped to create. Both of these children are now in their 20s and have accepted the idea that their "father" is a deadbeat and always will be and they both have absolutely no intention of ever contacting him again. Once was enough. As they have gotten older, they now realize just how important their MOM is to them and all she has gone thru to support and love them and raise them to be loving and caring adults. Too bad their "Father" will never have the opportunity to know this. There is more to being a parent than just someone to talk to!!!!
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educated
Utica, NY
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its stupid wrote: <quoted text>You don’t know what you’re talking about. My mother and father had two or three court battles over me, my father won the first and my mother won second or second two, not sure. I love both my parents so I will NEVER see it the way you do. If I lived with my dad I would love my mom the same, Idc if she gave my dad a dollar (according them both she didn’t when I was young living with my dad) Don’t get me wrong, I love my mom for everything she did for me but she is my mom. And I know she wanted me dearly because she fought for me in court. That doesn’t change how I feel about my dad. Maybe he’s making up for lost time, but as an adult I can count on my dad for anything and he is the first person I call when I have a need. I got 2 brothers that I now know but I never knew growing up because of the rift the money caused. Yes, I would’ve wanted the extra money in the house but it wasn’t worth the problems. I still got a car as a teenager while my brothers living with my dad walked to school. I guess we all see what we want. I know I am not alone. Most of my friends who had similar life experiences feel the same way. Every one of us will choose a parent over money. I now have 2 and no amount of money in the world could make me happier. Even my mother is softening her position now that she’s aged a little. I hope you do too because it’s supposed to be about the children not your lifestyle or struggles. If you’re like my mom you fought for the right to have those struggles. I’m glad she did, but live life afterward and be thankful for what we have. My words would be unchanged if it were my dad. I’m not stupid for thinking different than you. I would say you’re stupid for letting money affect your happiness. The happiness of material things don’t last long and most of these single mothers need to hear that message. The energy spent trying to obtain funds should be spent ensuring a child has a father in their life because if they’re anything like me it means so much more than money. Try working a 40 hour job, paying for a babysitter and rent/mortgage, utilities, car payment and maintenace, plus food and clothing all on one paycheck that is stretched to the limit to pay for all these NECESSITIES by yourself and maybe you will finally understand why your Mom feels the way she does about your Deadbeat Dad. There is more to being a parent than just being the nice guy and listening to you belly aches - it is called being responsible and making sure you help financially in the support of the child you helped create.
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