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Put it in perspective
Utica, NY
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amazing wrote: Just so everyone is aware. There are going to be NO inpatient psych units in the area. There are going to be dangerous people discharged into the community with NO supervision. People who have been hospitalized for many years some their whole lives! SO what? They couldn't possibly do as much damage as the local sops, the courts, the city employees and the erst of the scum in the area. Who worries about a few mental patients when you have civilian and dog-shooting cops running around drunk abusing and beating people? Wow you people act like THIS is something "scary"!
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that
Coventry, CT
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Put it in perspective wrote: <quoted text>SO what? They couldn't possibly do as much damage as the local sops, the courts, the city employees and the erst of the scum in the area. Who worries about a few mental patients when you have civilian and dog-shooting cops running around drunk abusing and beating people? Wow you people act like THIS is something "scary"! it's gunna be scary when several of the patients attack people and start hurting themselves and other people. When they get into drugs and don't know how to take care of pets or even worse kill them! Toucher them! Obviously there's going to be more crime and west Utica once again will be the worse of the worse
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perspective
Utica, NY
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Utica is what it is because before the prisions we had more of these psych hospitals. They are eventually released into our population, same as the prisoners who later followed. I feel sorry for those losing their jobs, but its a gov't position and we can't afford to keep ALL the jobs. A strong arguement for keeping Utica was made on the site but cuts must be made and Utica has far less political clout than Syracuse, even Rome for that matter. UPD is paid by the city which is also broke, they should also endure deep cuts, but that's another conversation. Get used to it people. Unless you have strong community ties (connected) or Graduate training expect to struggle.
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Not in this lifetime
Utica, NY
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Listen moron. Prisoners for the list part when released went back to NYC. The whole idea they got out an stayed in our depressed area is a falsehood. Even felons know our area sucks. There's nothing here and it gets worse every news day with more and more job losses. A big thank you shout out to all our marvelous politicians doing there absolute worst for us. Congrats.
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Hope
Gardiner, NY
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perspective wrote: Utica is what it is because before the prisions we had more of these psych hospitals. They are eventually released into our population, same as the prisoners who later followed. I feel sorry for those losing their jobs, but its a gov't position and we can't afford to keep ALL the jobs. A strong arguement for keeping Utica was made on the site but cuts must be made and Utica has far less political clout than Syracuse, even Rome for that matter. UPD is paid by the city which is also broke, they should also endure deep cuts, but that's another conversation. Get used to it people. Unless you have strong community ties (connected) or Graduate training expect to struggle. No one is disagreeing with the notion that cuts must be made. But why would you close the newest, most efficient hospital just to keep a crumbling dinosaur like Hutchings open? MVPC has the best facilities of all the psych hospitals in upstate ny
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resturant goer
Utica, NY
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hope these people can find work
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Keepin it in perspective
Oneida, NY
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I agree 100%- the state has to cut back somewhere - the waste has got to be trimmed! Thank you that is all I was tryin to say!
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Hope
Gardiner, NY
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Keepin it in perspective wrote: I agree 100%- the state has to cut back somewhere - the waste has got to be trimmed! Thank you that is all I was tryin to say! But would you also agree that cuts need to be made where they make sense?
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nrafan
Syracuse, NY
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Keepin it in perspective wrote: I agree 100%- the state has to cut back somewhere - the waste has got to be trimmed! Thank you that is all I was tryin to say! The cuts should be made at the top. CSEA and PEF woekers had to take days off without pay last year and this year, insurance went up, no raises. Not complaining, but when the loser Cuomo shafts the middle class, then has the audacity to give his advisors, etc. huge pay raises, eyebrows should be raised by the voters/taxpayers. His goal is to run for POTUS, he will have to run from NYS by the time he is done screwing the middle class over.
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nrafan
Syracuse, NY
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Workers, sorry for the typo.
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worker
Albany, NY
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nrafan wrote: <quoted text> The cuts should be made at the top. CSEA and PEF woekers had to take days off without pay last year and this year, insurance went up, no raises. Not complaining, but when the loser Cuomo shafts the middle class, then has the audacity to give his advisors, etc. huge pay raises, eyebrows should be raised by the voters/taxpayers. His goal is to run for POTUS, he will have to run from NYS by the time he is done screwing the middle class over. And this ward closure is just the beginning. Omh is taking the advice of the director of mvpc who happens to be from Hutchings. She wants to hook up her friends in Syracuse and the commissioner and governor are letting her do it. Even though its gonna cost taxpayers way more in the long run to keep Hutchings open. It would cost a lot less to close it and move everyone to Utica. Demand better folks. If you don't speak up they will get away with it.
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nrafan
Syracuse, NY
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worker wrote: <quoted text> And this ward closure is just the beginning. Omh is taking the advice of the director of mvpc who happens to be from Hutchings. She wants to hook up her friends in Syracuse and the commissioner and governor are letting her do it. Even though its gonna cost taxpayers way more in the long run to keep Hutchings open. It would cost a lot less to close it and move everyone to Utica. Demand better folks. If you don't speak up they will get away with it. I agree, but I don't think Cuomo gives a rats a** about this area. Maybe he has been eating too much semi-homemade food from his live in millionare girlfriend, Sandra Lee.
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Sam
Utica, NY
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Keepin it in perspective wrote: I agree 100%- the state has to cut back somewhere - the waste has got to be trimmed! Thank you that is all I was tryin to say! State should start with welfare,That programs is the real problem. Very large waste of tax dollars
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Green Eyes
Utica, NY
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Any word if the politicians will be visiting MVPC/HPC to see if it is even feasible for a move like this - afterall it will take alot of dollars to renovate HPC when the UTICA MVPC campus is up and running and one beautiful facility. That's all I can say is this should be very interesting - paying millions of tax payers dollars to build a new child center in Syracuse and the move the adults there and now need to open a building that has been closed for 5 years - I just don't get it - do you?
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State sucker
Syracuse, NY
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Dont worry the patients will die from the stress of the transfer!!!! Everything will go private...,with no oversight....and you think you will be saving money....private facilities comit more fraud....look into the fraud your firing the lower staff not responsible for it!!!
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We are being punished
Utica, NY
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Oneida county is being punished by tne govenor for being a rebublican run county. So the state government is closing everything they can in oneida county. They are moving things to democratic run counties. Thats just the facts. Just terrible.
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state worker
United States
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Wait til the state pulls the plug on the entire state office building. That's coming next my friends.
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curious
Coventry, CT
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Anyone hear anything new?
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Concerned
Herkimer, NY
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curious wrote: Anyone hear anything new? Nothing. There is an online petition (tailored towards the closer of Kingsboro PC in Brooklyn "and other mental health facilities")- but you can change the wording in the message to reflect MVPC. http://hq-afl.salsalabs.com/o/4013/c/506/p/di...
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hope
Coventry, CT
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The State legislators are very much on this. Let them do their job. I think a reversal may be possible. If you want to help then let the governor know that Utica needs a break for once.
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