Vagos motorcycle club targeted in Southern California crime sweep

I was in southern California two weeks ago and went to a bar where there were many Vagos members and other motorcycle club members, and not only was there no violence, they were there raising money for the Boys and Girls Club.

Perhaps the ATF ought to take a closer look before they make broad sweeping accusatory comments about groups of people. If the group they targeted was based on skin color, it would have been blatant racism, now wouldn't it?

B Young wrote:

I was in southern California two weeks ago and went to a bar where there were many Vagos members and other motorcycle club members, and not only was there no violence, they were there raising money for the Boys and Girls Club.

Perhaps the ATF ought to take a closer look before they make broad sweeping accusatory comments about groups of people. If the group they targeted was based on skin color, it would have been blatant racism, now wouldn't it?

Don't worry, I'm sure the fuzz plated some evidence and smoked the rest

B Young wrote:

I was in southern California two weeks ago and went to a bar where there were many Vagos members and other motorcycle club members, and not only was there no violence, they were there raising money for the Boys and Girls Club.

Perhaps the ATF ought to take a closer look before they make broad sweeping accusatory comments about groups of people. If the group they targeted was based on skin color, it would have been blatant racism, now wouldn't it?

Racism? Maybe, it was based on smell, fly impacted teeth, matted windblown knappy hair, and alcohol smelling burps. Well, maybe that's racist, too. After all, anything and everything is based on racism now days.

Vinny wrote:

<quoted text>Don't worry, I'm sure the fuzz plated some evidence and smoked the rest

...for the record, it is spelled, " planted !". lol

Well i can speak first hand,I feel that this whole ordeal should not have happened because the Vagos Motorcycle CLUB not GANG is a family kind of club. As a friend of mine said "THERE MIGHT BE A FEW BAD APPLES IN THE GROUP BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE THE WHOLE CLUB BAD.AND PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THIS. SPEAKING AS A CHILD OF A MEMBER THIS WHOLE BUST IS WRONG. BUT THERE IS ALOT OF STUFF THAT I DONT KNOW.THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO

Heather wrote:

Well i can speak first hand,I feel that this whole ordeal should not have happened because the Vagos Motorcycle CLUB not GANG is a family kind of club. As a friend of mine said "THERE MIGHT BE A FEW BAD APPLES IN THE GROUP BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE THE WHOLE CLUB BAD.AND PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THIS. SPEAKING AS A CHILD OF A MEMBER THIS WHOLE BUST IS WRONG. BUT THERE IS ALOT OF STUFF THAT I DONT KNOW.THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO

Yea, so are the families are major South American drug cartels. So are the families of the Coyotes that leave undocumented immigrants in the desert to die. So are the Asians who deal in the trade of human flesh. They're all people, too. And they're nice to their families. It doesn't make what they're doing any less wrong, or illegal.

B Young wrote:

I was in southern California two weeks ago and went to a bar where there were many Vagos members and other motorcycle club members, and not only was there no violence, they were there raising money for the Boys and Girls Club.

Perhaps the ATF ought to take a closer look before they make broad sweeping accusatory comments about groups of people. If the group they targeted was based on skin color, it would have been blatant racism, now wouldn't it?

Those ATF Agents that investigate and perform these search and arrest warrants use evidence to in order to get the warrants in the first place, not "broad sweeping accusatory comments". Remove your head from your butt, ok?

Hey "not an idiot" the fed that obtained the warrant to raid he HA clubhouse in SD a couple years ago admitted he lied to obtain the warrant. MILLIONS $$ and who knows how many man hours. What a PATHETIC waste of tax dollars.

A while back the ENTIRE (19 cops) LA Sheriffs "Major Narcotics Crime Unit" (now defunct) went to jail. Isn't it funny none of the bikers they were investigating did?

If I had to guess why so much money is being wasted persecuting bikers I'd say it's because now that most of he meth is being manufactured in Mexico, narks aren't getting the bribes they were once accustomed to.

Kind if funny the MC that is involved with the Mexican street gangs that distribute the chit isn't getting messed with like the clubs that haven't been involved in it for a couple decades don't you think?

Just Me wrote:

Hey "not an idiot" the fed that obtained the warrant to raid he HA clubhouse in SD a couple years ago admitted he lied to obtain the warrant. MILLIONS $$ and who knows how many man hours. What a PATHETIC waste of tax dollars.

A while back the ENTIRE (19 cops) LA Sheriffs "Major Narcotics Crime Unit" (now defunct) went to jail. Isn't it funny none of the bikers they were investigating did?

If I had to guess why so much money is being wasted persecuting bikers I'd say it's because now that most of he meth is being manufactured in Mexico, narks aren't getting the bribes they were once accustomed to.

Kind if funny the MC that is involved with the Mexican street gangs that distribute the chit isn't getting messed with like the clubs that haven't been involved in it for a couple decades don't you think?

The bikers didn't, because all of the evidence obtained had to be thrown out. It wasn't, because they weren't guilty, it was, because of a technicality in the law.

I ride with the Vagos all the time and I have never seen anything out of the ordinary... Simple as that

Jman wrote:

I ride with the Vagos all the time and I have never seen anything out of the ordinary... Simple as that

"Ordinary" is subjective to the collective one is referring to.

the cia dont like any one getting a slice of there dope pie

Gert wrote:

lock'em all up and throw away the keys. they're a cancer to society.

so are ignorant stereotypical, mindless people. Do you really think one bad apple makes the whole tree bad?

really wrote:

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so are ignorant stereotypical, mindless people. Do you really think one bad apple makes the whole tree bad?

One bad apple rots the whole barrel.

Not an Idiot wrote:

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Those ATF Agents that investigate and perform these search and arrest warrants use evidence to in order to get the warrants in the first place, not "broad sweeping accusatory comments". Remove your head from your butt, ok?

I don't think it is possible for him to remove it, they are probably both one in the same. Hey jackass, what evidence do YOU have that they were raising money for the "Boys and Girls Club"???

There's good and bad in all walks of life if you realy want to know what goes on then hang out, you'd be surprised to find that the code of ethics involved in the motor cycle club sub-culture is alot more demanding than your back stabing "day to day" society. there's good cops and bad cops just like I'm sure there's good Vagos and bad Vagos just like anything else...

Don't kid yourself. They're more then a regular MC club raising money for charities, but not really 1%'s either. They're "wanta-be's". I grew up around them in Adelanto. Back then they thought they were tough because Boston could tell the barmaid at the Hanger Inn not to wear red and white clothes. I don't think he would have pushed that view down the hill.

All crap aside, I never seen or heard of them causing problems when I was coming up, but that was a long time ago. They kept to themselves, and when they partied, the cops used to go sleep at the dump. (Funny to remember that). But I NEVER heard of them causing problems with the average Joe on the street. Maybe they've changed now - gotten a lot worse and drawn the interest of law enforcement. I'm not sure. I can say that there's a lot more white collar crimes going on that are more dangerous to America then what I remember of the Vagos.

Vinny wrote:

<quoted text>Don't worry, I'm sure the fuzz plated some evidence and smoked the rest

With typing like that I'm sure they plated something, perhaps your skull

Looks can be deceiving. Don't be fooled.