Who do you support for Governor in Pennsylvania in 2010?

Obama the Outsourcer wrote:

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You completely missed the point about Obamacare for most people.
We do not like having it forced upon us. It was over reaching and come Nov. we will voice our opinion at the polls. Just because the Sup.Ct. said it was constitutional doesn't make it right. Slavery was also constitutional at one time as well but it doesn't make it right.

What? You don't like savings forced on you? You don't like better care forced on you? You don't like more efficiency forced on you? You don't like less waste forced on you? You don't like accountability for free-loaders forced on you?

What's your objection? The healthcare system is a mess. It needs to be reformed. The ACA is a good first step.

Obama the Outsourcer wrote:

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Who's outsourcing jobs?
Jeffrey Immelt (Obama appointed) JOBS CZAR.
Jeffrey Immelt Jobs Czar Sends Jobs to China
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/wach/jo...
Jeffrey Immelt outsoursing
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/econom...
Let me guess, you don't believe Obama is outsourcing jobs.

US business is outsourcing jobs. Obama is fighting it.

I wanted a public option or the right to buy into some thing like medicare. A lot of liberals dont believe the aca went far enough.

Obama the Outsourcer wrote:

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Who's outsourcing jobs?
Jeffrey Immelt (Obama appointed) JOBS CZAR.
Jeffrey Immelt Jobs Czar Sends Jobs to China
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/wach/jo...
Jeffrey Immelt outsoursing
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/econom...
Let me guess, you don't believe Obama is outsourcing jobs.

so your saying GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt is running for office?
typical spin for the right wing.
the only thing billo got right was that romney lied.
but that is not really news.

Dan the Man
Carlisle, PA

sez

No, I've only blamed Bush for things Bush ACTUALLY did.

You're blaming Obama for things he had nothing to do with.

You're blaming Obama for things we know Bush is responsible for.

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Obamacare Increases Costs of College Health Plans by as Much as 1,112%

Radnofsky reports on three institutions that are facing dramatic increases in their insurance costs.

At the State University of New York in Plattsburgh, she writes, the 2011-2012 school-year premium was $440 per student.

Next year’s plan will cost between $1,300 and $1,600.

Lenoir-Rhyne University in Hickory, N.C. paid $245 per student per year for 2011-2012. Next year, they’ll have to pay $2,507 to meet the law’s requirements.

The University of Puget Sound in Tacoma, Wash. paid even less last year—$165 a year—but will have to pay between $1,500 and $2,000 next year:

more than twelve times their current insurance costs.

What’s the Obama administration’s response to this carnage?

Effectively it’s this:

that people should pay more for insurance, because it’s for their own good.

The costlier, more comprehensive plans offer more protection, and people should be forced to buy that extra protection, even if they think it exceeds their own needs.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/06/05/o...

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When facts are shown that cannot be disputed you either to not reply, disappear, switch topics or you resort to name-calling.

Dan the Man Carlisle, PA, you are a cowardly piece of shit!

Just like your black messiah!

TaxNoMore wrote:

Dan the Man
Carlisle, PA
sez
No, I've only blamed Bush for things Bush ACTUALLY did.
You're blaming Obama for things he had nothing to do with.
You're blaming Obama for things we know Bush is responsible for.
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Obamacare Increases Costs of College Health Plans by as Much as 1,112%
Radnofsky reports on three institutions that are facing dramatic increases in their insurance costs.
At the State University of New York in Plattsburgh, she writes, the 2011-2012 school-year premium was $440 per student.
Next year’s plan will cost between $1,300 and $1,600.
Lenoir-Rhyne University in Hickory, N.C. paid $245 per student per year for 2011-2012. Next year, they’ll have to pay $2,507 to meet the law’s requirements.
The University of Puget Sound in Tacoma, Wash. paid even less last year—$165 a year—but will have to pay between $1,500 and $2,000 next year:
more than twelve times their current insurance costs.
What’s the Obama administration’s response to this carnage?
Effectively it’s this:
that people should pay more for insurance, because it’s for their own good.
The costlier, more comprehensive plans offer more protection, and people should be forced to buy that extra protection, even if they think it exceeds their own needs.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2012/06/05/o...
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When facts are shown that cannot be disputed you either to not reply, disappear, switch topics or you resort to name-calling.

and the hack author is avik roy.

"I am a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research and a member of Mitt Romney’s Health Care Policy Advisory Group."

so all you can find is a biased source?
tsk-tsk

Hey warrior for the tea bagger class? How much is your tax or penalty that you will be paying for being a dead beat who would rather make every one else pay for you?

Dan the Man
Carlisle, PA

What?

You don't like savings forced on you?

You don't like better care forced on you?

You don't like more efficiency forced on you?

You don't like less waste forced on you?

You don't like accountability for free-loaders forced on you?

What's your objection?

The healthcare system is a mess.

It needs to be reformed.

The ACA is a good first step.

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Let’s think about this for a moment.

An individual 40 years old without employer paid health insurance and a salary of $30,000 will have to have insurance at a cost of about $4500 per year but he pays only $2500 with the other $2000 paid by our taxes.

A family of four without employer paid health insurance and an income of $60,000 will have to have an insurance policy that costs $12,100 but they pay $5000 while we pick up the other $7100.

Every family of four with income less than 400% of the poverty level or $93,750 and every individual with income less than $36,000 is part of this give away if they don’t have employer paid insurance.

The ACA is a good first step.

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Returning to the table, and remembering that each person without insurance is currently being subsidized by those with health insurance at $854 per year, how many subsides can you find under $854.

There are a few but almost all are above that amount and some substantially above it.

If there are currently 50 million people without insurance there is no reason to believe there will be fewer than 50 million receiving subsides.

As employers cancel their insurance programs in favor of paying a small penalty the number without employer health insurance will increase.

Also 50% of the tax filings last year or 69 million showed income of less than $33,000 so be they from families or individuals they will all apply if they don’t have employer paid insurance.

And 75% of all returns or 105 million were under $67,000 so it is safe to conclude at least 50 million people now and many more in the future will be eligible for subsides that will average more than $854 per year.

You don't like accountability for free-loaders forced on you?

What's your objection?

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Conclusions:

It was much cheaper just letting the freeloader freeload in the free market system than it will be to subsidize the millions who will be freeloading under the Government’s PEU act.

What a surprise.

To get rid of the current freeloaders we will be paying much more to the future freeloaders.

As more and more people are dropped by their employers this will become more and more a Government funded program which of course is the objective of the PEU act.

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Dan the Man Carlisle, PA, you are a cowardly piece of shit!

Just like your black messiah!

How much tax will you be paying tea bag guy? The answer is a big zero just like it is today, which is why you duck and dodge and run from the question

Run faster and farther tea bag guy. I withdraw question

dbar wrote:

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so your saying GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt is running for office?
typical spin for the right wing.
the only thing billo got right was that romney lied.
but that is not really news.

Maybe you should look at who Obama's jobs Czar. Who he has placed in charge of creating jobs for americans. Is there someone else in your house that I can speak with? Is your mommy or daddy home?

TaxNoMore wrote:

You don't like accountability for free-loaders forced on you?
What's your objection?
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Conclusions:
It was much cheaper just letting the freeloader freeload in the free market system than it will be to subsidize the millions who will be freeloading under the Government’s PEU act.
What a surprise.
To get rid of the current freeloaders we will be paying much more to the future freeloaders.
As more and more people are dropped by their employers this will become more and more a Government funded program which of course is the objective of the PEU act.
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Dan the Man Carlisle, PA, you are a cowardly piece of shit!
Just like your black messiah!

using a AstroTurf tea party blog as a source?
tsk-tsk

http://www.teaparty911.com/blog/getting-rid-o...

The answer is a big zero

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Under ObamaCare, the IRS cannot seize any of your property to enforce the mandate penalty.

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Dan the Man Carlisle, PA, you are a cowardly piece of shit!

Just like your black messiah!

Dan the Man wrote:

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US business is outsourcing jobs. Obama is fighting it.

This is how he fights it? By hiring the biggest outsourcer in the nation? Hahahaha.. What has this great outsourcer done in the last 3 years? It looks like more outsourcing to me.

Obama the Outsourcer wrote:

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Maybe you should look at who Obama's jobs Czar. Who he has placed in charge of creating jobs for americans. Is there someone else in your house that I can speak with? Is your mommy or daddy home?

still avoiding the question.
so is the CEO of GE running for office?
so now you go from spin to insults.
typical right wing tactic.

dbar wrote:

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still avoiding the question.
so is the CEO of GE running for office?
so now you go from spin to insults.
typical right wing tactic.

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Obama sent 29 billion overseas and outsourced thousands of jobs...
First of, John Sununu makes libbie Andrea Mitchell look like a piker in this vid.

She has NO CLUE that Obama dumped this money down a foreign rathole.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...-bogus... -

I wanted to source this, and I did indeed that Fisker took stimulus money to build cars in an old GM plant, and now probably never will:
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fisker...5#.T_7...

I also found this about SunPower corp.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/ano...llion-...

Basically it states that SunPower is losing money hand-over-fist, so we have another Solyndra situation. I also read that almost immediately after they received spendulous money, they had plans to build a plant in Mexico.

Here's a list of spendulous recipients for turbine contracts. Notice the country of origin for almost all of these is NOT the US.

This money was supposed to be used to create US jobs, not jobs in Spain, Germany, Denmark, et al...

http://mountainridgeprotectionact.co ...her-countries/

By the way, Romney outsourced zero jobs. Sununu was right on...when Bain was engaged in that practice, he was gone...

dbar wrote:

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still avoiding the question.
so is the CEO of GE running for office?
so now you go from spin to insults.
typical right wing tactic.

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When facts are shown that cannot be disputed you either to not reply, disappear, switch topics or you resort to name-calling.

Dan the Man Carlisle, PA, you are a cowardly piece of shit!

Just like your black messiah!