UHS pot arrests lead police to parent's medical grow

Coastal Cowboy wrote:

Since I've been an objective watcher on this thread and other's that you two post on. You two remind me of the Older Brother little brother sysndrom siblings share. I just can't figure out which one is which. Just when I think I have it figured out, one of you will post something that is like. "I hit you,, na nannanna."
I take a toke . and laugh me but off.
You two remind me of "Little Big Man". Little Big Man and Custer. LOL.
oh yaaa, i'm on meds. whew.
I have to admit, not that a reason of being a stoner(patient) since you both are counters.
FU would be Little Big Man, and WW would be Custer.

I'd say you've been reading to many cowboy stories.

For all those asking why this is different from a child taking alcohol and/or presciption meds from their parents, it's really not. Last time I checked, parents do get prosecuted or fined when their child takes alcohol or presciption meds from their home and then gives it, or sells it, to their friends. It is the parents responsibility to keep those items from their children and/or teach their children that it's not okay for them to take it or use it until they are of age. The human body and brain is still developing in most people until the age of 20 to 22 (each person's genetic and chemical makeup are different). Also, MJ, when smoked does cause damage to your body similar to smoking tobacco. Which for those that don't develope lung cancer usually shorten their life span just from the tar buildup in their lungs, the same holds true for MJ (especially heavy prolonged use) as far as altering a persons lung capacity goes. Also when smoked it does cause delayed reactions and altered mental states very much like alcohol does. So again, it's not entirely safe to smoke is it.

dc2d wrote:

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Your post reflects a destructive focus. You said little about the dangers of smoking pot, and a lot to say about the horrible, destructive results of prohibition. The fact is, smoking pot is totally unacceptable and dangerous for our children, thereby prohibited.

What would be the dangers?

Concerned wrote:

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Well, the thing is that all the kids involved are the kids of growers. All smoke pot and their parents know it and condone it. We are talking 12 to 14 year olds whose parents make them "brownies." I have caught the schools they attend falsifying school records to hide the fact that my stepdaughter was behind a grade and covering for her mothers neglect of the kids education for her first 4 years. When you tell me these kids are doing well in school I have to snicker. The alcoholic kid I am speaking of, as I said is semi illiterate yet keeps advancing through school with the rest of his "peers."

this is not new. passing kids through the school system who shouldn't has been going on for many years, decades even. You should thank George Bush for the "no child left behind act" not to mention Congress and our locals for their "budget cuts" which cut eduucation! Pot has not led to this. Alcohol has not led to this. Its the lack of caring from our gov't that has caused this.

buttered bread wrote:

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Don't we live in a capitalistic society? Is it not true that in a capitalistic everything has a price? I am a medical grower, it costs quite a bit of cash to make it happen. None of my cannabis goes into the hands of kids!!!! nor will it ever!!!My cannabis goes to people that are sick, mostly cancer and aid's patients!!! I get reimbursed for the cost of the grow, the hours of work I put into making it happen and to cover any costs of production. So if it is being greedy to get payed my work, then I would have to say I am being a good capitalist, our system is based off of GREED without it it would fail.

You pay taxes on that income right?

Buttered Bread:

Most people deny the possibility their pot could end up in the hands of teens. Any rational adult knows there is no way of assuring that. Growers just want to justify what they are doing. You are right we do live in a capitalistic society. One I beleive in completely. That does not excuse the harm done to children in the process of obtaining money. In Mendocino County it is agains't the law to grow marijuana for sale. Even to cover ones expenses for the grow. Maybe you are a legitimate medical grower but believe me most in Mendocino County are not.

Former Ukiahan, it's real funny watchin you squirm like that but in all honesty we are on the same side, even though I like to give you sh*t. I am a pot smoker and I don't smoke for medical reasons. I smoke because that's what I have done most of my life. Since I was 12 years old growing up in this town (Ukiah). I can tell you and everyone else from experience that it's the education in the school system here that creates stupidity.(moving on) You all act like this sh*t is something NEW, well it aint! In fact it's been going on for decades. Kids in this area are bored as f*ck with NOTHING to do. What the hell do you thing they are going to turn to? I had to educate myself in order to be properly educated and know half the things I know now. It's really sad that this community fails to realize that criminalizing MJ is creating new criminals everyday. They are criminals not because they steel things or rob banks or lie to their local Law Enforcement. They are criminals because they smoke a weed that the gov'mnt and every sheep that follows their lies that make it that way. You want to be a slave go right ahead but it aint for me. Don't believe the hype, smoking MJ is not as bad as people make it out to be. I guarantee if and when they legalize MJ there will be a lot less crime and a lot less "criminals" on our streets. The thing is people are going to do what they want regardless of what someone else tells them. This is not new and it will never stop. The funny thing is if MJ was legalized yesterday this incident would have gone over much smoother and no one would have a thing to say about it because it's "legal". Which is a bunch of crap and extremely ignorant. The reality here is no matter what happens legal or not, kids and adults alike are going to continue to smoke Marijuana regardless of your accusations or assumptions or your week a** opinions about it. You go ahead and fill your head with all the lies and blind spots you want but it's not going to stop people from being happy.. and smoking MJ makes me happy.

Oh yes and don't think for one second that if your growing MJ that it don't somehow end up in the hands of our children because it WILL. If they don't get it from you they will get it from somewhere else. If you are selling it to other poeple they are selling it to our kids. The ONLY way to ensure it's security is to grow a few plants in your house (if you have NO children) and never let it outside of your home. Kids will find it somewhere, somehow, someway, always!!...and if it's not MJ it will be alcohol or some other substance like meth. Don't fool yourself into believing that we can all protect children from drub abuse, it's not the children that need the protecting, it's the way we deal with the problem that is going to solve the crisis.

OK you people want facts? Here are some facts.

1. Almost ALL kids, yours or not, are going to try some kind of drug. Whether it's alcohol, Marijuana or Cigarettes, they will find it and they will use it.

2. Kids have been doing this sh*t since before any of you where even a glimmer in your mommy's eye.

3. Your not going to stop anyone from smoking Marijuana anymore than prohibition stopped the consumption of alcohol in the 1920's.

4. not everything you find on the internet is real or even fact. Most of the time it's someone else's opinion.

5. Surveys or research into the use of Marijuana (or anything else for that matter) are conducted by people with an agenda or a preconceived notion that it's use is good or bad.(if you don't know what a preconceived notion is then I suggest you get off your lazy a** and look it up)

6. Get a clue, wake up, life is not fare!

7. We are all going to die someday regardless of your opinion. Whether it's from substance abuse or just natural occurrence it's going to happen and there isn't a damn thing you or I can do about it.

Those are FACTS! Undeniable facts and you can't dispute any of it... and if you do then I feel sorry for you because you obviously know nothing about life.

Former Ukiahan wrote:

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You know....all you are accomplishing with this childish idiotic talk is proving how ignorant you truly are. Anyone with true intelligence wouldn't need to sound like a 12 year old attempting to impress his friends. But you go ahead and continue showing the world how grown up you are and how well versed you are in the english language while the rest of us have our adult converstaions. We'll rattle the bars of your crib when we want your attention.

You are correct BTW. I don't need to sound like a 12 year old but I like it and it pisses people off... and it looks like the only baby crib bars that got rattled are yours.((rattle rattle rattle))
It's called trolling and it's very affective.

Redneck wrote:

OK you people want facts? Here are some facts.
1. Almost ALL kids, yours or not, are going to try some kind of drug. Whether it's alcohol, Marijuana or Cigarettes, they will find it and they will use it.
2. Kids have been doing this **** since before any of you where even a glimmer in your mommy's eye.
3. Your not going to stop anyone from smoking Marijuana anymore than prohibition stopped the consumption of alcohol in the 1920's.
4. not everything you find on the internet is real or even fact. Most of the time it's someone else's opinion.
5. Surveys or research into the use of Marijuana (or anything else for that matter) are conducted by people with an agenda or a preconceived notion that it's use is good or bad.(if you don't know what a preconceived notion is then I suggest you get off your lazy **** and look it up)
6. Get a clue, wake up, life is not fare!
7. We are all going to die someday regardless of your opinion. Whether it's from substance abuse or just natural occurrence it's going to happen and there isn't a damn thing you or I can do about it.
Those are FACTS! Undeniable facts and you can't dispute any of it... and if you do then I feel sorry for you because you obviously know nothing about life.

WOOT! redneck! nice to see ur not just potty talk!=)
I agree it's time everyone grew up and quit believing in fairytale's and started taking some personal responsibility and quit trying to pass blame on others or things.

I guess you are right all research has an agenda, it's just some research the agenda is to try to find the truth and or reveal past lies made to control through misinfo or just strait up fear. Or look for new medical breakthrough's. IMO you can't lump those in the same group as the false or should I say selective and misleading study's done to promote prohibition.

In fact everything that you have said is exactly what we have been saying from the get go.

buttered bread wrote:

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WOOT! redneck! nice to see ur not just potty talk!=)
I agree it's time everyone grew up and quit believing in fairytale's and started taking some personal responsibility and quit trying to pass blame on others or things.
I guess you are right all research has an agenda, it's just some research the agenda is to try to find the truth and or reveal past lies made to control through misinfo or just strait up fear. Or look for new medical breakthrough's. IMO you can't lump those in the same group as the false or should I say selective and misleading study's done to promote prohibition.
In fact everything that you have said is exactly what we have been saying from the get go.

Thank you!:)~

The bottom line_______

People need to realize something, life isn't about making other people do what you think is right, it will NEVER work. Do whats right for YOU! Most doctors are full of sh*t. You know yourself better than anyone on this planet. Any good doctor will tell you that they can't read your mind, you have to tell them what the problem is before they can attempt to solve it. If you think that smoking marijuana is going to kill you then don't smoke it. But don't go around demanding that everyone do the same as you. Be true only to yourself. Have respect for others opinions instead of putting people down because they smoke or drink or do anything else. We each have our own lives to live and they are our own. My life is not yours to do what with you wish. I will make my own decisions and write my own book, raise my own children and choose what I think is right.
This whole idea of humans trying to control other humans just baffles my mind because it doesn't have to be that way. It exists because we allow it to exist. No one ever says anything about it or stands up for it. This girl that STOLE her parents stash is where the problem needs to be addressed, not with her parents. These children grow up and become adults and they are different from their parents even though they have tried so hard. The point is they are going to be what they become because of who they are inside, not because of what their parents tried to mold them into. Lionel Dahmer wasn't a bad parent, he tried to do the best he could and he failed at seeing some signs. But Lionel never killed anyone, Jeffrey Dahmer killed people because he chose to kill those people. No one ever made him do sh*t! No one put a gun to his head and told him to become a serial killer, he just was. Children are as individual as any adult in the world. They are and should be responsible for their OWN actions.

My son is in the process of getting his license. That's awesome but there is only one problem with that. I had to sign a paper saying I was responsible for him until he turns 18. So if he sneaks out in the middle of the night and goes to a party, gets drunk and kills someone, I am responsible yet I have done nothing wrong. What is wrong with this picture? No one sees a problem with this? You can't control people and that's part of the problem. It's ludacris....you can tell someone something till you are blue in the face but it don't mean a damn thing! You can tell your child not to do something but they are an individual, they will do what ever it is they want to do, regardless of what you want; and I am responsible for that? Look I take responsibility to a certain extent, you have to teach your child right from wrong but after that it's in their ballpark not ours. I hate what societies do to Human beings, it constricts them and tears them apart and divides and crushes peoples lives. There needs to be a revolution against restraint so we can break free from these chains.

anonymous wrote:

Stupid little girl.
You risked your entire family on 300 dollars worth of WEED.
At least the police did not arrest the parents, who are legitimate patients.

I know the parents they ARE NOT legitimate patients. They grow and sell, grow and sell. Yeah they carry a card but they don't need it. I hope the prosecute all 3 of them!

Local Mom wrote:

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I know the parents they ARE NOT legitimate patients. They grow and sell, grow and sell. Yeah they carry a card but they don't need it. I hope the prosecute all 3 of them!

If that is the case then the police should get a search warrant and seize the remaining crop and arrest them for cultivation and intent to sell. That would be the right thing to do but this world is not to fond of doing the right thing.

Local Mom wrote:

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I know the parents they ARE NOT legitimate patients. They grow and sell, grow and sell. Yeah they carry a card but they don't need it. I hope the prosecute all 3 of them!

Sooo...ur sayin ur a doctor? ohh...your not? so you actually have little knowledge as to the personal health issues of these parent's?
yes? You have no right to be sayin what you are... so stick a sock in it, and pay attn to your own family and quit stickin ur nose where it don't belong.

buttered bread wrote:

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Sooo...ur sayin ur a doctor? ohh...your not? so you actually have little knowledge as to the personal health issues of these parent's?
yes? You have no right to be sayin what you are... so stick a sock in it, and pay attn to your own family and quit stickin ur nose where it don't belong.

Good point!

Lookie here all you people that like to play doctor and evaluate others on their health issues, your opinion is mute and meaningless. There are plenty of people in the world with health issues that they are dealing with in which they would prefer to keep between them and their doctor. Allot of ailments you would not even recognize, they don't have obvious outward signs easily read by the layman. i.e. I had a lady who lived down the street from me a few years back, every time I saw her she seemed to be in good spirits, always had a smile on and no one would ever know she had cancer. Well she died, the only one that even knew she had cancer on the whole block was the lady living next to her, she did not want people to know, the rest of the block "everyone being fond of her" was devastated to find out she had been fighting cancer.

So quit playing doctor, thinking you have a clue and passing judgments on others!! you have absolutely no right to do so.

Hagatha wrote:

Buttered Bread:
Most people deny the possibility their pot could end up in the hands of teens. Any rational adult knows there is no way of assuring that. Growers just want to justify what they are doing. You are right we do live in a capitalistic society. One I beleive in completely. That does not excuse the harm done to children in the process of obtaining money. In Mendocino County it is agains't the law to grow marijuana for sale. Even to cover ones expenses for the grow. Maybe you are a legitimate medical grower but believe me most in Mendocino County are not.

You are so right

Every one of us has the personal responsibility to look into their hearts and make sure that they aren't guilty of sins of omission,(Internal lies). People who practice denial have yet to learn the importance of defeating the practice of creating internal lies. People who weave lies into their internal mortar end up with weak morals, and if they start believing their own lies, eventually madness.

P.S. I have never met a grower who went out of their way to grow pot and didn't sell any.

I was once told that every time someone lies, a part of the planet dies.

Lies come with a cost.

Redneck wrote:

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You are correct BTW. I don't need to sound like a 12 year old but I like it and it pisses people off... and it looks like the only baby crib bars that got rattled are yours.((rattle rattle rattle))
It's called trolling and it's very affective.

No bars rattled here. I've been laughing my butt off since all this crap started. one thing you have to realize is that i'm 100% disabled. I don't get out a lot and once I get my chores done for the day I have nothing left to entertain me except the idiot tube and I can only handle so much of that. Screwing with people on topix is one thikng that keeps me busy and thinking about something besidese the constant leg pain I experience.
Not sure what you think I'm all about, don't really care but everything you've said I agree with minus the fact that you think you've accomplished something by attempting to get my goat! lol

About kids and cannabis...I don't advocate kids using cannabis. i never have. Even though I know there are tons of things worse that could hurt them I believe in education before party. Always will. maybe it's because I was such a screw up in high school. Instead of just doing the work, getting it over with and graduating...I rebelled and cut class. Honestly I was bored.
I also know with 100% certainty that none of my meds make it outside my control. I don't sell, give away or even share my meds. My grow is indoors behind dead bolted doors and I hold the 'ONLY' key.
Anyway...hope all had a great weekend. I got to see my oldest son for a few hours after a year.(he lives in another state) It was a great weekend for me.