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Mewabe
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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What is wrong with drivers around here??? This place is more dangerous than the LA freeways!!
Is it the drugs, the alcohol, What??? Not a week goes by without an accident, a head on, a pedestrian struck, no wonder you don't see many people on bicycles here...it's even dangerous to walk on a side walk! Has anyone noticed the frequency of accidents yet?
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ITS pretty Scary
Oakland, CA
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Mewabe you're right. There does seem to be an awful lot of accidents lately where people have been killed or seriously injured. People need to slow down and not drink and drive. Down right amazing!?! Alcohol and drugs definitely are a contribuing factor. Mewabe wrote: What is wrong with drivers around here??? This place is more dangerous than the LA freeways!!
Is it the drugs, the alcohol, What??? Not a week goes by without an accident, a head on, a pedestrian struck, no wonder you don't see many people on bicycles here...it's even dangerous to walk on a side walk! Has anyone noticed the frequency of accidents yet?
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Really G and O
Hayward, CA
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I think it's because this county doesn't have a strong sense of community. I may be reaching, but people who don't get involved with each other in civic encounters geared at making improvements and openly cultivating constructive partnerships throughout the geographic area they live, suffer from apathy and isolation as a result.
What better way of interacting with someone than to get into an accident with them? Subconciously, although perverse and morbid, it may be a form of contacting others. But hey, it's late and my reasoning ability is faultering.
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Andnat1
San Jose, CA
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I am highly upset by the previous comments made in regards to this article. I actually KNOW the driver of the SUV that was involved in this accident, and let me be the first to inform you that he DOES NOT DRINK OR USE DRUGS, and I do not mean solely on the night of the accident, I mean AT ALL.
I will be the first to admit that this county DOES have a problem with car accidents (usually fatal), as well as with drunk drivers, but that was simply not the case in this accident.
What the papers have not reported, but hopefully will do so after the investigation is completed, is that the pedestrian STEPPED INTO the roadway and the accident was simply inevitable.
Furthermore, the comment left by Really G and O is, like he stated, REALLY REACHING. First off, you do not live in our community, so please do not take it upon yourself to judge it. We are a tight-knit community, and anybody that knows the driver, knows that he is well-known and well-liked and DOES NOT need to hit somebody to have interaction with another. This comment is truly the most absurd view on this situation that I have heard yet.
May God bless all involved in this accident. It truly was a tragedy.
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Andnat1
San Jose, CA
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After posting my comment, I now realize that the page randomly gives a location that the person is from. I AM NOT from San Jose. I live in Lake County. My assumption was that Really G and O was from out of town, because the comment displays location as Hayward. My apologies for my assumption...however, still the most absurd comment made.
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Mewabe
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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Andnat1 wrote: I am highly upset by the previous comments made in regards to this article. I actually KNOW the driver of the SUV that was involved in this accident, and let me be the first to inform you that he DOES NOT DRINK OR USE DRUGS, and I do not mean solely on the night of the accident, I mean AT ALL.
I will be the first to admit that this county DOES have a problem with car accidents (usually fatal), as well as with drunk drivers, but that was simply not the case in this accident.
What the papers have not reported, but hopefully will do so after the investigation is completed, is that the pedestrian STEPPED INTO the roadway and the accident was simply inevitable.
Furthermore, the comment left by Really G and O is, like he stated, REALLY REACHING. First off, you do not live in our community, so please do not take it upon yourself to judge it. We are a tight-knit community, and anybody that knows the driver, knows that he is well-known and well-liked and DOES NOT need to hit somebody to have interaction with another. This comment is truly the most absurd view on this situation that I have heard yet.
May God bless all involved in this accident. It truly was a tragedy. Here's a HINT: when you see someone walking alone at 10 pm on the side of highway 29, YOU SLOW DOWN TO A CRAWL IF YOU HAVE TO, assuming there might be something wrong, and to AVOID an accident. You might even go so far as STOPPING to ask that person if everything is alright or if she needs a lift somewhere. PEOPLE ARE NOT LIKE TREES that you can assume will remain in position in the ground while you are whizzing by them in the dark. And if you don't see that person on the side of the road, then you have to have you vision checked, and stay off the road until you do. Finally, there isn't just drugs and alcohol, there are all kinds of medications people take, we are the most heavily medicated population in the world. G and O, you are right about alienation in this culture (everywhere, in every community), but consumerism is the outlet (pun intended) for this disease...when people feel bad (because alienated), they go shopping, that how the system works...
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Mewabe
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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The problem here is that people go by the existing laws, and by their "rights", rather than by common sense. Yes, the highway is for driving, not walking, and yes, a pedestrian that walks into the path of a moving vehicle is at fault. But once again common sense would dictate to slow down in such an unusual, suspect and potentially very dangerous situation...even if a car is following behind, and if they can't slow down they are following too close, especially at night.
Laws, restrictions and regulations are not accumulating in this society just to control bad behavior...they are accumulating to prevent STUPID behavior. The more stupid and irresponsible behaviors, the more laws to control them.
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David Browning
Oakland, CA
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Mewabe wrote: The problem here is that people go by the existing laws, and by their "rights", rather than by common sense. Yes, the highway is for driving, not walking, and yes, a pedestrian that walks into the path of a moving vehicle is at fault. But once again common sense would dictate to slow down in such an unusual, suspect and potentially very dangerous situation...even if a car is following behind, and if they can't slow down they are following too close, especially at night.
Laws, restrictions and regulations are not accumulating in this society just to control bad behavior...they are accumulating to prevent STUPID behavior. The more stupid and irresponsible behaviors, the more laws to control them. What an inappropriate time to get on your soap box about drivers behaving badly at the expense of an innocent family returning from a family outing. Imagine you are traveling late at night, out away from all communities, and someone decides to step out from the dark in the path of your car. You have no time to stop, slow down or avoid collision. The poor soul crashes into your windshield and the airbags deploy. I have pity for that woman that apparently took her own life, we may never know why, but the investigation will become public when it is complete. I hope your family never is involved in such a tragedy. In this case the driver and his family are also a victim, not responsible. Have some compassion and don’t assume you know what occurred out on a dark highway late at night.
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mariaandtaylor
Novato, CA
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I think that people need to pay attention to the road. OK they might not drink or do drugs but since they dont your going to assume the pedestrian was at fault. Come on, she lost her life and her family lost her. Would you like to tell her kids... I didnt think so. Driving in Lake County at night is dangerous and one turn of the head can be fatal to any one of us. We need lights and more stops in between.
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C Andrian
San Lorenzo, CA
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Apparently walking is to. Remember the case involving Farringtons feoncia when she hit a killed the man in Nice when he was walking home. She did ninety days in county jail. A dead man. The laws of physics are different in Lake County according the Tonys Attorney. mariaandtaylor wrote: I think that people need to pay attention to the road. OK they might not drink or do drugs but since they dont your going to assume the pedestrian was at fault. Come on, she lost her life and her family lost her. Would you like to tell her kids... I didnt think so. Driving in Lake County at night is dangerous and one turn of the head can be fatal to any one of us. We need lights and more stops in between.
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Really G and O
San Leandro, CA
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Andnat1 wrote: After posting my comment, I now realize that the page randomly gives a location that the person is from. I AM NOT from San Jose. I live in Lake County. My assumption was that Really G and O was from out of town, because the comment displays location as Hayward. My apologies for my assumption...however, still the most absurd comment made. Sorry, I was reaching out of the box. It's a Sagitarius thing. If a person is killed in a terrible accident, NO ONE was looking for that to happen to make contact with someone else. I lose it after 10:00pm at night, and really don't need to be playing around on the computer.
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Mewabe
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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David Browning wrote: <quoted text>
What an inappropriate time to get on your soap box about drivers behaving badly at the expense of an innocent family returning from a family outing. Imagine you are traveling late at night, out away from all communities, and someone decides to step out from the dark in the path of your car. You have no time to stop, slow down or avoid collision. The poor soul crashes into your windshield and the airbags deploy. I have pity for that woman that apparently took her own life, we may never know why, but the investigation will become public when it is complete. I hope your family never is involved in such a tragedy. In this case the driver and his family are also a victim, not responsible. Have some compassion and don’t assume you know what occurred out on a dark highway late at night. But YOU are ASSUMING that the woman "stepped out of the dark" and took her own life. Nowhere in the article does it say that. In order to "step out of the dark", she would have had to be hiding behind a tree or in the bushes, since I do have to assume the driver had his headlights on, probably high beam as most people are half blind around here, so anything walking on the side of the road would have been seen by someone LOOKING at the road. Don't they tell you to watch for deer at night? If you watch for deer, you also see people. The point you are missing is that many pedestrians have been struck, and there is at least one accident a week. Whether it is drugs, alcohol, prozac, or playing with the stereo or a cell phone, the end result is the same: death for the victims. I have no doubt the driver feels horrible about this. This is not about him...it is about looking at the causes of all these accident, because it is an epidemic. I personally have used a bicycle all my life everywhere I have been, even did "bicycle touring", from Canada to Southern California to Oregon to Arizona, but would never use one here...And when I see a person on a bicycle or walking on the side of the road on any highway, even in the day time, I am afraid for them, knowing how people drive here.
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Mewabe
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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C Andrian wrote: Apparently walking is to. Remember the case involving Farringtons feoncia when she hit a killed the man in Nice when he was walking home. She did ninety days in county jail. A dead man. The laws of physics are different in Lake County according the Tonys Attorney. <quoted text> There has also been several women struck by careless drivers, so many during one period that one could have thought women were been targeted... As far as the case above, had she been Native American, she would have been lynched (another "drunken injun")! But the victim was Mexican I think, and she was a rich, well connected white lady. Case closed.
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Mewabe
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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Really G and O wrote: <quoted text>
Sorry, I was reaching out of the box. It's a Sagitarius thing. If a person is killed in a terrible accident, NO ONE was looking for that to happen to make contact with someone else. I lose it after 10:00pm at night, and really don't need to be playing around on the computer. Hey at least you are thinking, even if it takes you to some strange places...there is nothing wrong with being a thinker, even in a culture that hates intellectuals. But most people make "contact" with a credit card at the mall. Alienation leads to buying stuff, so even the kids relate through email and text messaging, and it's not a trend that is about to end...too profitable!
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concerned
Campbell, CA
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This is truly a sad thing for this womans family. Is the driver in Jail? and if not why? if you hit someone and killed them that is wrong.. Even if it was accident... accidents can always be prevented, by driving carefully, by not driving too fast, too close,
I also heard this woman was a native american and the driver was a white man... thats sad cause if it was a mexican, native american, black, person who hit a "white" person that driver would have been in jail asap... sorry to put it out there like that but there is still alot of prejudice..
For the woman who had a family, may she rest in peace......
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Mewabe
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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concerned wrote: This is truly a sad thing for this womans family. Is the driver in Jail? and if not why? if you hit someone and killed them that is wrong.. Even if it was accident... accidents can always be prevented, by driving carefully, by not driving too fast, too close,
I also heard this woman was a native american and the driver was a white man... thats sad cause if it was a mexican, native american, black, person who hit a "white" person that driver would have been in jail asap... sorry to put it out there like that but there is still alot of prejudice..
For the woman who had a family, may she rest in peace...... You are quite right there is still a lot of racism...but we are not supposed to mention it...the "correct" thing is to see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, so that racism can still flourish in backwater areas, redneck style, and in big cities, gang style.
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David Browning
San Mateo, CA
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Mewabe wrote: <quoted text>
You are quite right there is still a lot of racism...but we are not supposed to mention it...the "correct" thing is to see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, so that racism can still flourish in backwater areas, redneck style, and in big cities, gang style. You people are clueless. The newspaper put out a misleading news report using some of the information from the PR officer of the CHP. The paper did not interview any eyewitnesses or emergency personal that was at the scene. By the time the investigation is complete the story is stale and most likely no follow up will be printed. In the mean time people like you make false assumptions and try to blame the driver. I did talk to eyewitnesses and emergency personal. On a dark highway, in the middle of nowhere, a woman and mother stepped into the middle of the northbound lane in front of a vehicle going 55 mph. There was no warning or visibility at night to avoid the collision. I challenge anyone, you blog writers, a CHP officer or Dale Earnhart Jr. to avoid that collision given the same circumstances. The pedestrian made a bad decision and it cost her her life and put the vehicles family in harms way, and mental anguish for years to come. The preliminary conclusion of emergency personal was that she deliberately stepped into the middle of the north bound lane. These are facts. Stop trying to put this family through more hell. I am sorry Ms. Smith found herself in the middle of the highway for what ever reason that night and I hope her family can get help with their despair. The comments from “concerned” and “mewabe” are inappropriate. Make your social comments in another forum, write a guest commentary (you will have to give your real name). Don’t use this tragedy, you only make things worse for all involved in it. Put your Race card back in your pocket and take your head of out the sand. There is no need to answer this with your Caps Lock on, computer yelling is rude. I am from Lakeport, not Oakland, this blog put that to my name.
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Mewabe
Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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David Browning wrote: <quoted text>
You people are clueless. The newspaper put out a misleading news report using some of the information from the PR officer of the CHP. The paper did not interview any eyewitnesses or emergency personal that was at the scene. By the time the investigation is complete the story is stale and most likely no follow up will be printed. In the mean time people like you make false assumptions and try to blame the driver. I did talk to eyewitnesses and emergency personal. On a dark highway, in the middle of nowhere, a woman and mother stepped into the middle of the northbound lane in front of a vehicle going 55 mph. There was no warning or visibility at night to avoid the collision. I challenge anyone, you blog writers, a CHP officer or Dale Earnhart Jr. to avoid that collision given the same circumstances. The pedestrian made a bad decision and it cost her her life and put the vehicles family in harms way, and mental anguish for years to come. The preliminary conclusion of emergency personal was that she deliberately stepped into the middle of the north bound lane. These are facts. Stop trying to put this family through more hell. I am sorry Ms. Smith found herself in the middle of the highway for what ever reason that night and I hope her family can get help with their despair. The comments from “concerned” and “mewabe” are inappropriate. Make your social comments in another forum, write a guest commentary (you will have to give your real name). Don’t use this tragedy, you only make things worse for all involved in it. Put your Race card back in your pocket and take your head of out the sand. There is no need to answer this with your Caps Lock on, computer yelling is rude.
I am from Lakeport, not Oakland, this blog put that to my name. My own comment on racism had nothing to do with this case. My initial point, which you have obviously not bothered to read or comprehend, is that when a driver see a lone pedestrian on the side of a highway at night he has to assume something could be WRONG and slow down to prepare for anything, including someone jumping into his path. Is this too difficult to grasp? Just because the speed limit says 55 doesn't mean you have to go 55, particularly at night, and particularly when someone is walking along the highway. So unless this woman was hiding in the bushes, behind a tree, or in a tree waiting to "ambush" the next vehicle to take her own life, she had to be walking along the side of the highway, before she jumped into his path, and IF SHE WAS WALKING SHE HAD TO BE SEEN, at least she would have by someone driving with his eyes open. A driver using common sense would have slowed down when seeing a lone woman walking along the 29 at night. I have to assume that he had his high beams on and could see a reasonable distance. But this is not to blame this driver, nothing can be done about it and I am sure he and his passengers are traumatized, this is for other drivers to remember this case and understand that SLOWING DOWN when you see someone walking (or on a bicycle) alongside a highway, day or night, might save a life. And this comment is VERY appropriate.
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Real Talk
Oakland, CA
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David Browning wrote: <quoted text>
You people are clueless. The newspaper put out a misleading news report using some of the information from the PR officer of the CHP. The paper did not interview any eyewitnesses or emergency personal that was at the scene. By the time the investigation is complete the story is stale and most likely no follow up will be printed. In the mean time people like you make false assumptions and try to blame the driver. I did talk to eyewitnesses and emergency personal. On a dark highway, in the middle of nowhere, a woman and mother stepped into the middle of the northbound lane in front of a vehicle going 55 mph. There was no warning or visibility at night to avoid the collision. I challenge anyone, you blog writers, a CHP officer or Dale Earnhart Jr. to avoid that collision given the same circumstances. The pedestrian made a bad decision and it cost her her life and put the vehicles family in harms way, and mental anguish for years to come. The preliminary conclusion of emergency personal was that she deliberately stepped into the middle of the north bound lane. These are facts. Stop trying to put this family through more hell. I am sorry Ms. Smith found herself in the middle of the highway for what ever reason that night and I hope her family can get help with their despair. The comments from “concerned” and “mewabe” are inappropriate. Make your social comments in another forum, write a guest commentary (you will have to give your real name). Don’t use this tragedy, you only make things worse for all involved in it. Put your Race card back in your pocket and take your head of out the sand. There is no need to answer this with your Caps Lock on, computer yelling is rude.
I am from Lakeport, not Oakland, this blog put that to my name. Thank you Mr. Browning for standing by the Nelson family. A few years ago a friend of mine was traveling on Hwy 53 and had the unpleasant experience of having a pedestrian commit suicide by running out from the side of the road onto the highway in the path of her vehicle. She was not speeding and there was absolutely nothing that she could have done to prevent this from happening. As this case was investigaed it later came out that the gentleman killed had attempted this before with no success. The reason why I shared this story is so that others can see that sometimes it is impossible to avoid collision when someone runs or steps out in front of a speeding vehicle going down the highway at 55 mph. I don't know why this young lady felt that this was her only way out. But it sure sucks for both the families that are involved. My prayers are with you all.
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Real Talk
Oakland, CA
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...oops, sorry for the typo: investigated
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