Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:

<quoted text>Hey Lucy did you know Jesus was a homosexual??
Except for Jesus (who hung out with 12 guys and never said anything bad about homosexuality), who said that you can increase your chances of being raptured by being gay.(So pray to be gay!)
I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Luke 17:34-35

Good afternoon Great Sly! Just wanted to pick on you if I may?

Jesus Gay? you know it's not true. But you do know that words and meanings of words evolve over time either through semantics, transmission, amelioration, Pejoration or generalization right?

Look up the meaning of "Gay" during the Roaring 20's as one example. Or even better take the word "mouse" and see how it evolved just over our own lifetime.

Let's please take a little more care on how we interpret the meanings of words to avoid stepping in "mistakes" it's very easy to do, God knows I do it quite often myself :)

Al Garcia wrote:

<quoted text>Good afternoon Great Sly! Just wanted to pick on you if I may?
Jesus Gay? you know it's not true. But you do know that words and meanings of words evolve over time either through semantics, transmission, amelioration, Pejoration or generalization right?
Look up the meaning of "Gay" during the Roaring 20's as one example. Or even better take the word "mouse" and see how it evolved just over our own lifetime.
Let's please take a little more care on how we interpret the meanings of words to avoid stepping in "mistakes" it's very easy to do, God knows I do it quite often myself :)

Pick away. The problem with the Holy KJV1611 is simple, people can interpret in any way they see fit to accomplish their agenda.

Take these two scriptures. Christians maintain they pertain to homosexuals. I ask you this how can a man lie with another man the way he does a woman? A man does not have a vagina.

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Leviticus 18:22



If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev.20:13

Now if you read a more progressive bible, say the Good News Translation

Leviticus 20:13

13 If a man has sexual relations with another man, they have done a disgusting thing, and both shall be put to death. They are responsible for their own death.

A bit different would you not agree?

The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:

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Pick away. The problem with the Holy KJV1611 is simple, people can interpret in any way they see fit to accomplish their agenda.
Take these two scriptures. Christians maintain they pertain to homosexuals. I ask you this how can a man lie with another man the way he does a woman? A man does not have a vagina.
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Leviticus 18:22
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev.20:13
Now if you read a more progressive bible, say the Good News Translation
Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man has sexual relations with another man, they have done a disgusting thing, and both shall be put to death. They are responsible for their own death.
A bit different would you not agree?

Very well stated Great Sly! Many people can and do interpret the Bible to meet certain agendas, that is fact. That is exactly why I posted what I did earlier. But let's not forget, for all those with nefarious agendas, you many many many more people that truly wish to do the right thing.
Peace Great Sly. I'll see ya later :)

*there are many, many more people with good intentions to do the right thing.

RiccardoFire wrote:

Mitt Romney has moved out to an eight-point lead over President Obama in North Carolina after the two men were virtually tied a month ago.

For those of you think we will see much of a differnce, who is elected, I only have one thing to say.:O):O)

The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:

<quoted text>Hey Lucy did you know Jesus was a homosexual??
Except for Jesus (who hung out with 12 guys and never said anything bad about homosexuality), who said that you can increase your chances of being raptured by being gay.(So pray to be gay!)
I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Luke 17:34-35

Don't forget that Jesus also introduced John, his most beloved, to his mother as her son-in-law. I mean, what else do you need there?

The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:

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Pick away. The problem with the Holy KJV1611 is simple, people can interpret in any way they see fit to accomplish their agenda.
Take these two scriptures. Christians maintain they pertain to homosexuals. I ask you this how can a man lie with another man the way he does a woman? A man does not have a vagina.
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Leviticus 18:22
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. Lev.20:13
Now if you read a more progressive bible, say the Good News Translation
Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man has sexual relations with another man, they have done a disgusting thing, and both shall be put to death. They are responsible for their own death.
A bit different would you not agree?

This is all easily solved.

"Hey Jesus, can you please send down some clarifying texts in everyone's native languages?"

Any minute now it will all become clear!

Mona Lott wrote:

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Really? Liberalism is a mental illness? Please explain the pathology, and how it differs from mental illness that is conservatism.
Of course we realise you are just using hyperbole.... a typical response when you have no facts.

Here you go!

Like all other human beings, the modern liberal reveals his true character, including his madness, in what he values and devalues, in what he articulates with passion. Of special interest, however, are the many values about which the modern liberal mind is not passionate: his agenda does not insist that the individual is the ultimate economic, social and political unit; it does not idealize individual liberty and the structure of law and order essential to it; it does not defend the basic rights of property and contract; it does not aspire to ideals of authentic autonomy and mutuality; it does not preach an ethic of self-reliance and self-determination; it does not praise courage, forbearance or resilience; it does not celebrate the ethics of consent or the blessings of voluntary cooperation. It does not advocate moral rectitude or understand the critical role of morality in human relating. The liberal agenda does not comprehend an identity of competence, appreciate its importance, or analyze the developmental conditions and social institutions that promote its achievement. The liberal agenda does not understand or recognize personal sovereignty or impose strict limits on coercion by the state. It does not celebrate the genuine altruism of private charity. It does not learn history’s lessons on the evils of collectivism.

That was easy LOL!
http://www.libertymind.com/index.php...

Mona Lott wrote:

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MEDICAL reasearch has nothing to do with climate change, sugar. You can keep repeating your silly analogy but that won't make it any less irrelevant.

mona way to much?
Your spin has made you too dizzy to understand?
That's alright... I guess? If you're a liberal, you know!?!?!? LMAO

Al Garcia wrote:

<quoted text>Good afternoon Great Sly! Just wanted to pick on you if I may?
Jesus Gay? you know it's not true. But you do know that words and meanings of words evolve over time either through semantics, transmission, amelioration, Pejoration or generalization right?
Look up the meaning of "Gay" during the Roaring 20's as one example. Or even better take the word "mouse" and see how it evolved just over our own lifetime.
Let's please take a little more care on how we interpret the meanings of words to avoid stepping in "mistakes" it's very easy to do, God knows I do it quite often myself :)

I don't know buddy! Are you positively sure that Jesus wasn't in fact gay?
Was Jesus gay?
www.alternet.org/belief/155118/was_jesus_gay_...

Bill Of Rights wrote:

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I don't know buddy! Are you positively sure that Jesus wasn't in fact gay?
Was Jesus gay?
www.alternet.org/belief/155118/was_jesus_gay_...

Sure! Absolutely Bill. Are you suggesting that Jesus practiced homosexuality and that the people of that era were ok with it? Remember, we are talking about a culture where even having sexual relations with the opposite sex before marriage could mean a death sentence.

Also, if the Pharisees were looking for a reason to have Jesus "taken out" it seems to me that even the rumor of homosexuality would be a great advantage to the Religious elite.

Sorry, the times, the culture, the presence of a vengeful ruling elite constantly looking for a mistake from Jesus and pure lack of evidence purely leads me away from pure, wild speculation.

Al Garcia wrote:

<quoted text>Sure! Absolutely Bill. Are you suggesting that Jesus practiced homosexuality and that the people of that era were ok with it? Remember, we are talking about a culture where even having sexual relations with the opposite sex before marriage could mean a death sentence.
Also, if the Pharisees were looking for a reason to have Jesus "taken out" it seems to me that even the rumor of homosexuality would be a great advantage to the Religious elite.
Sorry, the times, the culture, the presence of a vengeful ruling elite constantly looking for a mistake from Jesus and pure lack of evidence purely leads me away from pure, wild speculation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belie...

Read please

wilderide wrote:

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This is all easily solved.
"Hey Jesus, can you please send down some clarifying texts in everyone's native languages?"
Any minute now it will all become clear!

Any thing on the fax yet? ROFLMAO. I give you many props on that post, many.

Al Garcia wrote:

<quoted text>Very well stated Great Sly! Many people can and do interpret the Bible to meet certain agendas, that is fact. That is exactly why I posted what I did earlier. But let's not forget, for all those with nefarious agendas, you many many many more people that truly wish to do the right thing.
Peace Great Sly. I'll see ya later :)

No problem.

Here! Let me help.

What the liberal mind is passionate about is a world filled with pity, sorrow, neediness, misfortune, poverty, suspicion, mistrust, anger, exploitation, discrimination, victimization, alienation and injustice. Those who occupy this world are “workers,”“minorities,”“the little guy,”“women,” and the “unemployed.” They are poor, weak, sick, wronged, cheated, oppressed, disenfranchised, exploited and victimized. They bear no responsibility for their problems. None of their agonies are attributable to faults or failings of their own: not to poor choices, bad habits, faulty judgment, wishful thinking, lack of ambition, low frustration tolerance, mental illness or defects in character. None of the victims’ plight is caused by failure to plan for the future or learn from experience. Instead, the “root causes” of all this pain lie in faulty social conditions: poverty, disease, war, ignorance, unemployment, racial prejudice, ethnic and gender discrimination, modern technology, capitalism, globalization and imperialism. In the radical liberal mind, this suffering is inflicted on the innocent by various predators and persecutors:“Big Business,”“Big Corporations,”“greedy capitalists,” U.S. Imperialists,”“the oppressors,”“the rich,”“the wealthy,”“the powerful” and “the selfish.”

The liberal cure for this endless malaise is a very large authoritarian government that regulates and manages society through a cradle to grave agenda of redistributive caretaking. It is a government everywhere doing everything for everyone. The liberal motto is “In Government We Trust.” To rescue the people from their troubled lives, the agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. With liberal intellectuals sharing the glory, the liberal politician is the hero in this melodrama. He takes credit for providing his constituents with whatever they want or need even though he has not produced by his own effort any of the goods, services or status transferred to them but has instead taken them from others by force.

Radical liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom, and for that reason it is a genuine evil.

The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belie...
Read please

Interesting article I must admit. The Gospels did not mention whether Jesus was :
A. Gay
B. Married
C. White, black, tall, short or even hunchbacked.

I don't know because the Bible doesn't say.
We go with what we know. We know that homosexuality at that time for Jews was a death sentence. We know that Jesus was a Rabbi that preached Mosaic law and we know that Mosaic law preached against homosexuality ( yes I know, it still doesn't mean he couldn't have been Gay)

I'll cede that point as we have seen what some of our infamous preachers have been caught doing.

We know that the Pharasees would have shred him to bits if they had even caught wind that he was.

Other than a few lines that literally could be twisted or interpreted that way, the fact is there is no solid proof other than a few innuendos that he was gay. I say this because I am fully against using Jesus as a tool for any agenda be it Gay or straight. I believe he would want us to love each other and understand that the more we think were different the more we are really all the same.

Cast from the same block, with the same fears and the longing to be loved and accepted by him.

Al Garcia wrote:

<quoted text>Interesting article I must admit. The Gospels did not mention whether Jesus was :
A. Gay
B. Married
C. White, black, tall, short or even hunchbacked.
I don't know because the Bible doesn't say.
We go with what we know. We know that homosexuality at that time for Jews was a death sentence. We know that Jesus was a Rabbi that preached Mosaic law and we know that Mosaic law preached against homosexuality ( yes I know, it still doesn't mean he couldn't have been Gay)
I'll cede that point as we have seen what some of our infamous preachers have been caught doing.
We know that the Pharasees would have shred him to bits if they had even caught wind that he was.
Other than a few lines that literally could be twisted or interpreted that way, the fact is there is no solid proof other than a few innuendos that he was gay. I say this because I am fully against using Jesus as a tool for any agenda be it Gay or straight. I believe he would want us to love each other and understand that the more we think were different the more we are really all the same.
Cast from the same block, with the same fears and the longing to be loved and accepted by him.

Al you see to understand just what it means to be a Christian, you have received the Message from Jesus. Love, hope, compassion and understanding. Sir good luck on your mission to make the other Christians understand. I bid you peace and a great evening.

The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:

<quoted text>Al you see to understand just what it means to be a Christian, you have received the Message from Jesus. Love, hope, compassion and understanding. Sir good luck on your mission to make the other Christians understand. I bid you peace and a great evening.

Thank you. You are too kind :)

Al Garcia wrote:

<quoted text>Interesting article I must admit. The Gospels did not mention whether Jesus was :
A. Gay
B. Married
C. White, black, tall, short or even hunchbacked.
I don't know because the Bible doesn't say.
We go with what we know. We know that homosexuality at that time for Jews was a death sentence. We know that Jesus was a Rabbi that preached Mosaic law and we know that Mosaic law preached against homosexuality ( yes I know, it still doesn't mean he couldn't have been Gay)
I'll cede that point as we have seen what some of our infamous preachers have been caught doing.
We know that the Pharasees would have shred him to bits if they had even caught wind that he was.
Other than a few lines that literally could be twisted or interpreted that way, the fact is there is no solid proof other than a few innuendos that he was gay. I say this because I am fully against using Jesus as a tool for any agenda be it Gay or straight. I believe he would want us to love each other and understand that the more we think were different the more we are really all the same.
Cast from the same block, with the same fears and the longing to be loved and accepted by him.

I guess we'll never know for sure but at the same time Al,since the attitudes about homosexuality were much like today back then,I bet they had very deep closets! So who really knows,but there is evidence there that may point to him being gay!

Bill Of Rights wrote:

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I guess we'll never know for sure but at the same time Al,since the attitudes about homosexuality were much like today back then,I bet they had very deep closets! So who really knows,but there is evidence there that may point to him being gay!

Like walk in closets? Lol! I think that they were actually worse back then, truth be told. There was no PC or courtesy as we know it today. Life was brutal. But I suppose we both will have our opposing view on that subject :)