Turkey jet crisis unlikely to pull NATO into Syria

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“Progressive liberal politic”

Since: Sep 11

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#1 Jun 26, 2012
NATO need enlargement and defense union.
TSK

Istanbul, Turkey

#2 Jun 26, 2012
Turkey can wipe out Syria off the map without any assistance from NATO, and i am not saying this because i am Turkish and biased because it is a fact, look at the numbers of both countries army and you'll know what i'mean + plus, the local people, especially the resistance with in Syria will also support Turkey so NATO is not needed in any possible conflict in the future.
but Turkey will never declare war on Syria without approval from NATO.
Bronzilla

Greece

#3 Jun 26, 2012
Should Israel conduct a proxy war against Turkey by providing intelligence to the Syrians on Turkish troop movements and actions in case of a Turko-Syrian war in exchange for having Syria instruct Hezbollah to leave Israel alone?

Also in case of Turkish attack, will Shia Muslims in Lebanon (Hezbollah) rush to defend Syria? Will Iran open a second front? Will Turkey be vulnerable to Shia terrorist suicide bombings within Turkey?
Bronzilla

Greece

#4 Jun 26, 2012
hahahahaha

look on that !!!

the Turkish RF-4E fighter shot down but from the Russian destroyer "Admiral Capanenko" class Udaloy II and not from the Syrian air defense, says the Turkish leader of the Democratic Left Party (DSP) Masum Turker.

In the same interview he says that both the Turkish armed forces and secret services and the Turkish Foreign Ministry know about the involvement of Russian warships, but did not say anything about it.
TSK

Istanbul, Turkey

#5 Jun 26, 2012
Bronzilla wrote:
Should Israel conduct a proxy war against Turkey by providing intelligence to the Syrians on Turkish troop movements and actions in case of a Turko-Syrian war in exchange for having Syria instruct Hezbollah to leave Israel alone?
Also in case of Turkish attack, will Shia Muslims in Lebanon (Hezbollah) rush to defend Syria? Will Iran open a second front? Will Turkey be vulnerable to Shia terrorist suicide bombings within Turkey?
are you serious by suggesting Israel will back Syria in a warfare with Turkey?
Israel will pray Turkey's victory in case of such a war, Israel HATES Syria and vice versa.
im really amazed by this scenario of yours.

dont worry about second or third fronts, Turks are used to fight in multiple fronts throughout history :)
btw, Turkey is more than capable of handling both Iran and Syria together, but if that happens, NATO will come in aid for SURE
And

Athens, Greece

#6 Jun 26, 2012
TSK you seem to be lacking common sense.
Syria's weapons are a lot more technologically advanced as Russia is supplying it constantly with top edge weapons. Also, Syrian army is in war for quite some time now, hence they are way more experienced.

Your air-force will suffer huge losses due to their perfect anti-air forces.

Not to mention that Russia will attack you immediately after you attack Syria. If you dare to attack Syria you will be wiped off the map like you never existed.
Avenger

Waterloo, Canada

#7 Jun 26, 2012
And wrote:
TSK you seem to be lacking common sense.
Syria's weapons are a lot more technologically advanced as Russia is supplying it constantly with top edge weapons. Also, Syrian army is in war for quite some time now, hence they are way more experienced.
Your air-force will suffer huge losses due to their perfect anti-air forces.
Not to mention that Russia will attack you immediately after you attack Syria. If you dare to attack Syria you will be wiped off the map like you never existed.
Zero chance dream on.
LBH

Aarhus, Denmark

#8 Jun 26, 2012
I would not be in doubt, that Turkey (and Turks) would be popular (especially in Europe) if they acknowledged the Armenian Genocide.
Bronzilla

Greece

#9 Jun 26, 2012
Avenger wrote:
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Zero chance dream on.
big words again

only Bulgaria left from your neighborhoods not slapping you, and we are not sure if they keep calm for long
PointofView

Syria

#10 Jun 26, 2012
Like i said on the other thread . well see how long Turkey will hold one war breaks out. We won't stop before Ankara. And all this big talk is just BS. We saw what you did when Israel violated your ship. We saw your multiple fronts tactics when Russia and Greece shredded you to pieces not so long ago. Say hi to Sultan Erdogan and tell him he's about to be deposed again.
PointofView

Syria

#11 Jun 26, 2012
we'll* once*
Bronzilla

Greece

#12 Jun 26, 2012
"The breaking of the Turkish fighter from Syria should not be considered as either a challenge or a deliberate act.
Breaking the Turkish fighter proved how good the Russian air defense systems are"!

Ria Novosti News, Moskow

Since: Sep 11

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#13 Jun 26, 2012
Stop kidding. If turkey and syria are left for fight alone, syria won't stand for a month. But this is not sth desired. Firstly, syrian and turkish people are brothers. We do not want them to be harmed. Next, war is not a game. At every posibility both country and people will suffer much. For that reason what syria did was a foolish and irresponsible behaviour. A behaviour of a country which has no concern of his people. The difference of the two country can be seen with this event.
United American Eagles

Anonymous Proxy

#14 Jun 26, 2012
I am der komasire and I am taking over this thread
Colonel

Istanbul, Turkey

#15 Jun 26, 2012
Assad is losing ground inside Syria. There are now fights between rebels and Assad's forces even at the outskirts of Damascus. Assad is now fearing that Russia might also abandon him. His fears are warranted since under immense international pressure and ever increasing uprising in Syria, Putin will eventually change where his stakes are. Assad lost all common sense; he is not sure how to proceed from now on, and he can attempt sthg crazy. He is becoming increasinly more aware that his end will be similar to that of Kaddafi.
PointofView

Syria

#16 Jun 26, 2012
@Colonel: i don't think so. and i think u need to stop listening to misleading media.
TSK

Istanbul, Turkey

#17 Jun 26, 2012
PointofView wrote:
@Colonel: i don't think so. and i think u need to stop listening to misleading media.
as if your own media is filled with objectivity.
TSK

Istanbul, Turkey

#18 Jun 26, 2012
Bronzilla wrote:
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big words again
only Bulgaria left from your neighborhoods not slapping you, and we are not sure if they keep calm for long
hey, why is this hatred?
nobody in Turkey hates or have anything against Greeks, Turkish armed forces also used to have their biggest base in the aegean region but since Greece is not a threat or hostile we have moved it to the eastern borders. but you, you seemed to be in full of hate, what is this have to with you? why cant you just be quite
Colonel

Istanbul, Turkey

#19 Jun 26, 2012
PointofView wrote:
@Colonel: i don't think so. and i think u need to stop listening to misleading media.
You are clearly a supporter of Assad and you fear for after-Assad era in Syria. Believe me, the vast majoritof people whom you see on the streets everyday and who are silent about Assad's rule actually hate him. They will also raise their voice when they will become certain that the rebels will win.

Assad lost all his legitimacy. There is no possibility that he can stay inpower but imagine that he did. Which country will he pay a visit as the president of Syria nest? Arab states do not want him. If he goes to any Western capital, he will be captured and tried for crimes against humanity. Will he be safe if he wants to go Moscow flying over Turkey? The world has already crossed his name. If he cared the slightest about Syrian people, he would resign himself. He cares only about his own dirty life, but most likely he will be dead before the year 2013.
Chris

Toronto, Canada

#20 Jun 26, 2012
Colonel wrote:
<quoted text>
You are clearly a supporter of Assad and you fear for after-Assad era in Syria. Believe me, the vast majoritof people whom you see on the streets everyday and who are silent about Assad's rule actually hate him. They will also raise their voice when they will become certain that the rebels will win.
Assad lost all his legitimacy. There is no possibility that he can stay inpower but imagine that he did. Which country will he pay a visit as the president of Syria nest? Arab states do not want him. If he goes to any Western capital, he will be captured and tried for crimes against humanity. Will he be safe if he wants to go Moscow flying over Turkey? The world has already crossed his name. If he cared the slightest about Syrian people, he would resign himself. He cares only about his own dirty life, but most likely he will be dead before the year 2013.
You have a narrow, Western formulated view. This view is getting antiquated. The West used to be’ International Community’ for the three decades, but that is changing. This Western habit of changing Countries’ leaderships’ is getting outmoded. There is a struggle for returning sovereignty back to the small non-Western countries. It will be hard struggle, but there are forces in the world ready to fight for it. Syrian leadership consists of cultured, mature people, and they are a good party to support, in that struggle to gain respect for Countries’ rights to sovereignty.

As for Turkey, it hopes to profit from ingratiating to whoever seems stronger. It proved productive the most often, but still does not guarantee upper hand at all times.

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