Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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#154917 Aug 15, 2012
Marcia_Marcia_Marcia wrote:
consent requirements?
Judge Walker disregarded the consent of the governed when he voided their democratic will to impose new marriage law on every Californian.

Most same sex marriage supporters don't care about consent, they want to impose new laws by unelected court decree.

Same sex marriage is bad because they don't care for consent.

Since: Jul 12

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#154918 Aug 15, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>Gay males are only 3% of the population yet make up 65% of all new HIV cases.

What's your interpretation of that?
Statistics show that:
*Men are are most likely to get HIV from homosexual contact
*Women are are most likely to get HIV from heterosexual contact
*Using infected drugs considerably increased the infection risk in both sexes.
*Children are are most likely to get HIV from their mother
*warning will be using words some people might not like but it is needed to explain biology and the way things work*
But I think the theme is a man is more likely to spread HIV because by having sex he is inserting his penis into someone and injecting the virus. Just like when people share needles and it is injecting the virus directly into their body.
Hey Numbnuts

Alhambra, CA

#154919 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Judge Walker disregarded the consent of the governed when he voided their democratic will to impose new marriage law on every Californian.
Most same sex marriage supporters don't care about consent, they want to impose new laws by unelected court decree.
Same sex marriage is bad because they don't care for consent.
I never gave you "consent" to take away my right to same-sex marriage, so F*CKOFF DIPSH*T.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#154920 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Rittardo wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Chicken Little,
Here's another civics lesson for you:
They won't be able to vote. Only citizens are allowed to vote.
Damn! You're stupid!!!
BTW: Screwing with the voter rolls is something the GOP does.
If you want chicken, you have to have a rooster and a hen.

Smile.

PS Was that hate speech to say that???

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#154921 Aug 15, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with your question is that you're including a premise you haven't proven true. Namely that a lesbian will dress & act like a man to attract another lesbian. Actually, that premise is rather flawed. If a lesbian were attracted to men she wouldn't be a lesbian.
If you want to discuss the way people dress that might be a better starting point for you.
Personally, I prefer to wear denim and tee shirts or work shirts (depending upon weather) as these suit my working conditions and comfort. I dress the same going out to eat in your average restaurant. If I'm going out to a nice place I'll wear a nice pair of jeans instead of the faded ones I wear while working. I'll wear a more casual styled shirt on those occasions. Rarely will I put on a suit. This isn't in order to attract anyone. It is just the way I am. I don't do all the smell good stuff either, that is no substitute for good ol' soap and water.
If you want to further the discussion about sexaul attraction, if my appearance is appealing to a woman, then odds are good she's going to be in the ballpark when it comes to being my type. It has been said that you can tell a lot about a person by the way they dress. Sooo, I'm not apt to draw the attention of some prissy uptight woman who is afraid to get a bit wet out riding on a bike. In short I wear what I feel comfortable in and if that attracts someone, so be it. If it doesn't that ain't no big thang either. This is the way I presented myself well before I met and married my wife and it appears that I'm not going to change anytime soon.
Moving right along to address your question directly, sort of. Are you suggesting that this is the way all lesbians dress? If so I think you're basing your question on a fairly narrow stereotype that doesn't necessarily apply to very many. Yes, I've seen some fairly butch lesbians. Oddly enough I see them as couples. OTOH, there are the two women living on the property next to mine. I'd hardly call their appearances butch at all. They were clothing that flatters their figures and they both wear make up and appear to be quite feminine IMHO. By the same token I know a fair number of straight men that primp and preen & go for the latest styles and load themselves up with cologne. They usually end up with women I find to be a bit tedious.
Hey ho, to each his (or her) own. People wear what they feel comfortable in. You probably won't find a corporate executive hanging out in bib overalls too often.
In spite of all that pontificating gay twirl you "sort of" didn't answer my question. I certainly wasn't interested in your dress options.

I simply asked why "a" lesbian would dress and act like a man to attract another lesbian. And how that behavior relates to evolution (Maybe you should go back to believing in God?).

Not a difficult question to understand. And STILL waiting for a validated answer, not a silly opinion.

Anything that can be destroyed by truth should be.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#154922 Aug 15, 2012
Prof Dingleberry wrote:
<quoted text>
Lesbians dress and act like lesbians, not like men stupid.
<quoted text>
What does clothing have to do with evolution?
<quoted text>
Stupid questions don't require validated explanations.
Your post handle is very fitting.

Smirk.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#154923 Aug 15, 2012
Marcia_Marcia_Marcia wrote:
<quoted text>
look at the picture that is me and no I am not butch
Why would you make such a comment?? even if you were butch you are still kind of cute from what I can tell.
Local

Clearlake, CA

#154924 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Numbnuts wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, and another thing....You should read your own links:
Acorns alleged crimes (some convictions) included the following:
1. Registering false names
2. Giving financial reward for registering
3. Some financial shenanigans
But there is no evidence or allegations of anyone casting a false ballot. This is what your buddy Rittardo is claiming and it happens less often than fat f*cks get struck by lightning.
You dipsh*tz are spending millions on a virtually non-existent problem. Good fiscal responsibility there....
You like numbnuts, heh?

Former Milwaukee ACORN employee Kevin L. Clancy (pictured above) was convicted of election fraud a few days ago. Clancy’s conviction brings the total number of convictions for former ACORN workers to at least fifteen so far in 2010.

Clancy entered a guilty plea to playing a part “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” said Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Clancy acknowledged submitting multiple voter registration applications for the same persons and registering himself and other voter registration canvassers to vote repeatedly while employed at ACORN during the 2008 election cycle.
Clancy earned himself a ten-month stay in the hoosegow for his crime, but it will be a while before he serves that sentence: Clancy’s voter fraud sentence won’t even get underway until he finishes a separate jail term he is currently serving for armed robbery.

The cannot convict someone unless they are caught...numbnuts.
Nobody knows how many were not caught.
But the facts are clear. ACORN is dirty.
Winston Smith

New Freedom, PA

#154925 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
In spite of all that pontificating gay twirl you "sort of" didn't answer my question. I certainly wasn't interested in your dress options.
I simply asked why "a" lesbian would dress and act like a man to attract another lesbian. And how that behavior relates to evolution (Maybe you should go back to believing in God?).
Not a difficult question to understand. And STILL waiting for a validated answer, not a silly opinion.
Anything that can be destroyed by truth should be.
Smile.
Here is a thought for you, Einstein...
If you want to know why a lesbian would dress like a man to attract a lesbian, why don't you go find a lesbian that does dress butch to attract lesbians and ask her? You'll have to hunt for one though, you may or may not find one on this thread to ask.

But, since you're here, I can ask you this: Why are you such a bell end?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#154926 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Pure BS masquarading as women's lib.
-Butch lesbians don't dress for comfort. They dress in men's clothes and styles and take on mannerisms like men.
-You not only sterotype all women in a idiotic and deceitful way, you deny the power of evolution to dictate your behaviors.
I left my sensitivity at the door of denial, which is where gays make the perposterous claim that gay couples are 'exactly the same' as marriage AND as you brought up, horrifically transgres cultural and religious sensitivity.
Nice gay twirl for a straight, but silly stupid with no validation of course.
Grin.
LeaderOfThePack2 wrote:
Oh my such anger! Did my honest answer hit a nerve or blow your theory? Ask a bunch of women why they dress the way they do, 9 out of 10 will tell you the same thing I did! Womens Lib, well yeah duh...welcome to this Century and half of the last one old fart - we don't need you anymore.
You say I am stereotyping women...WTF are you doing? Where is your proof that lesbians dress as men to attract women, source please? Rest assured I know much more about women than you do, I am a woman, remember??? Men can never figure us out! So how much, dear Kimare do you know about how and why women dress and why do you know such things? Oh yeah the lesbian in you...nevermind.
While you say you are a "redeemed cynic and a barbarian"...you quote the Bible frequently. Most likely a fundie! Ummmm you are not allowed to believe in evolution remember, that is evil? We all just came to be, the good book says so!
You are angry about the possibility of gay marriage because you spent your life trying to make your square peg fit...you now question your entire being. I am sorry for you!
Big grin
<quoted text>
I laughed at your 'answer' and I bitch-slapped your hypocrisy about sensitivity.

Interestingly, your statement, "we don't need you anymore" is the natural destination of feminism. Hence you see your daughter doing everything a man and woman can do by herself, and your son playing video games and looking at porn. How is that liberation for you Queen bee?

At the core of everything we do is evolution. A lesbian who makes the effort to dress and act like a man isn't doing it for 'comfort'. Just the negative reactions she experiences certainly would negate that. As one butch blogger put it, "this is just who I am". I believe and accept that. Why are you so afraid of that???

I refer to evolution far more than I do the Bible. I respond to ignorance, distortions and lies about the Bible.'Faith' by it's very essence is unprovable. Why would I try to prove it with faithless people??? I have to admit I also enjoy shoving evolution in the face of people who mock sacred things.

Been married nearly 40 years. We are one, but anyone who knows us still would define her as well rounded and me as square. I don't know how that works, but it does. What doesn't work is trying to put a bent rod in a straight hole.

Anything that can be destroyed by truth should be.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#154927 Aug 15, 2012
Mikhail Prokhorov wrote:
<quoted text>
what hell is this
this man get fist up ass from strangers, yes?
LOL!!!

They keep trying Mikhail, but my sphincter muscle charlie horse is too tight.

Grin.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#154928 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Numbnuts wrote:
<quoted text>
I never gave you "consent" to take away my right to same-sex marriage, so F*CKOFF DIPSH*T.
You have the right to SSM in 8 homo states .. now GO !!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#154929 Aug 15, 2012
Marcia_Marcia_Marcia wrote:
<quoted text>
it is usually how they feel comfortable dressing.. I can wear a dress/skirt and heels but I like to dress comfortable in jeans and a t shirt.
BS

Your real hair color is blonde, isn't it?

Smile.
Hey Numbnuts

Alhambra, CA

#154930 Aug 15, 2012
Local wrote:
<quoted text>
You like numbnuts, heh?
Former Milwaukee ACORN employee Kevin L. Clancy (pictured above) was convicted of election fraud a few days ago. Clancy’s conviction brings the total number of convictions for former ACORN workers to at least fifteen so far in 2010.
Clancy entered a guilty plea to playing a part “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” said Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Clancy acknowledged submitting multiple voter registration applications for the same persons and registering himself and other voter registration canvassers to vote repeatedly while employed at ACORN during the 2008 election cycle.
Clancy earned himself a ten-month stay in the hoosegow for his crime, but it will be a while before he serves that sentence: Clancy’s voter fraud sentence won’t even get underway until he finishes a separate jail term he is currently serving for armed robbery.
The cannot convict someone unless they are caught...numbnuts.
Nobody knows how many were not caught.
But the facts are clear. ACORN is dirty.
Again, you should read your sources--Maybe even your own posts:
Numbnutz said wrote:
<quoted text>
I like numbnuts, heh?
Former Milwaukee ACORN employee Kevin L. Clancy (pictured above) was convicted of election fraud... Clancy entered a guilty plea to playing a part “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,”....
Registering false applications to up your numbers is a different crime than voting under a false name.

Now when you can show that VOTING under a false name is a problem, then you have an argument.

FYI: ACORN is no longer in operation. Not sure why you keep pulling it outta your butt, but there you have it.
Hey OldMare

Alhambra, CA

#154931 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
If you want chicken, you have to have a rooster and a hen.
Smile.
PS Was that hate speech to say that???
If you want a chicken farm, all you need is a bunch of hens and one cock!

There: There's your argument for polygamy.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#154932 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Numbnuts wrote:
I never gave you "consent" to take away my right to same-sex marriage, so F*CKOFF DIPSH*T.
Californians never had the 'right' to same sex marriage until Walker's ruling. They took away nothing, you can still go to New York and marry, or ask your church for a same sex marriage ceremony (if they consent).

The issue is redefining marriage for everyone without the consent of the governed. You can tell we are on the right side of this issue by looking at the language our noble opponents use. See the quote above for proof.
Reality

Madison, WI

#154933 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
If you want chicken, you have to have a rooster and a hen.
Smile.
PS Was that hate speech to say that???
Dolly was born on 5 July 1996 to three mothers (one provided the egg, another the DNA and a third carried the cloned embryo to term).[7] She was created using the technique of somatic cell nuclear transfer, where the cell nucleus from an adult cell is transferred into an unfertilised oocyte (developing egg cell) that has had its nucleus removed. The hybrid cell is then stimulated to divide by an electric shock, and when it develops into a blastocyst it is implanted in a surrogate mother.[8] Dolly was the first clone produced from a cell taken from an adult mammal. The production of Dolly showed that genes in the nucleus of such a mature differentiated somatic cell are still capable of reverting back to an embryonic totipotent state, creating a cell that can then go on to develop into any part of an animal.[9] Dolly's existence was announced to the public on 22 February 1997.[1] It gained much attention in the media. A commercial with Scottish scientists playing with sheep was aired on TV, and a special report in TIME Magazine featured Dolly the sheep.[10] Science featured Dolly as the breakthrough of the year. Even though Dolly was not the first animal to be cloned, she gained this attention in the media because she was the first to be cloned from an adult cell.[11]

No male in sight..........
Local

Clearlake, CA

#154934 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Numbnuts wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you should read your sources--Maybe even your own posts:
<quoted text>
Registering false applications to up your numbers is a different crime than voting under a false name.
Now when you can show that VOTING under a false name is a problem, then you have an argument.
FYI: ACORN is no longer in operation. Not sure why you keep pulling it outta your butt, but there you have it.
Hey numbnuts...read this.

Minnesota Majority’s Report on Felon Voter Fraud Convictions
Stemming from Minnesota’s 2008 General Election
October 13th, 2011 - Prepared by Dan McGrath
Page 1
Executive Summary

As of August 10th, 2011, 113 individuals are now known to have been convicted for voter fraud
committed in 2008. We believe this is the highest number of voter fraud convictions obtained in any
state for a single election cycle since 1936. In fact, according to a 2006 Justice Department report, there
have been more convictions for voter fraud in Minnesota from just the 2008 election than the DOJ was
able to prosecute over a five year span, nationwide.
While this number may seem a small percentage of the 2,803 suspected ineligible voters originally
submitted to county prosecutors for investigation, there is a wide gap between voting while ineligible and
voting while knowingly ineligible.........
In other words, most of the suspects on Minnesota Majority’s original list did, in fact, vote while ineligible,
but the standard for prosecution in Minnesota is “ineligible voter knowingly votes.” If an ineligible voter
claims not to have known they were breaking the law, it’s difficult for prosecutors to prove otherwise. In
essence, to be convicted of voter fraud, the suspect must generally admit willful, knowing guilt.

http://www.electionintegritywatch.com/documen...

The law decided that they would not convict a dummy(public school graduate) who was too stupid to know that they were voting fraudulently.

LMAO
Hey Brian

Alhambra, CA

#154935 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Californians never had the 'right' to same sex marriage until Walker's ruling. They took away nothing, you can still go to New York and marry, or ask your church for a same sex marriage ceremony (if they consent).
The issue is redefining marriage for everyone without the consent of the governed. You can tell we are on the right side of this issue by looking at the language our noble opponents use. See the quote above for proof.
Seriously, Brian,

Just go f*ckoff.

You know damn well that state had marriage equality prior to the passage of Prop 8.

Gawd! You're tedious.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#154936 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Judge Walker disregarded the consent of the governed when he voided their democratic will to impose new marriage law on every Californian.
Most same sex marriage supporters don't care about consent, they want to impose new laws by unelected court decree.
Same sex marriage is bad because they don't care for consent.
That's simply a LIE on your part Brian and ya know it.......Judge Walker didn't disregard ANY consent of the Government or any other procedural process.

Judge Walker also did NOT impose new marriage laws on California.......in fact all he did was rule Prop 8 UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!

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