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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201809 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#154929 Aug 15, 2012
Marcia_Marcia_Marcia wrote:
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it is usually how they feel comfortable dressing.. I can wear a dress/skirt and heels but I like to dress comfortable in jeans and a t shirt.
BS

Your real hair color is blonde, isn't it?

Smile.
Hey Numbnuts

Alhambra, CA

#154930 Aug 15, 2012
Local wrote:
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You like numbnuts, heh?
Former Milwaukee ACORN employee Kevin L. Clancy (pictured above) was convicted of election fraud a few days ago. Clancy’s conviction brings the total number of convictions for former ACORN workers to at least fifteen so far in 2010.
Clancy entered a guilty plea to playing a part “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” said Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Clancy acknowledged submitting multiple voter registration applications for the same persons and registering himself and other voter registration canvassers to vote repeatedly while employed at ACORN during the 2008 election cycle.
Clancy earned himself a ten-month stay in the hoosegow for his crime, but it will be a while before he serves that sentence: Clancy’s voter fraud sentence won’t even get underway until he finishes a separate jail term he is currently serving for armed robbery.
The cannot convict someone unless they are caught...numbnuts.
Nobody knows how many were not caught.
But the facts are clear. ACORN is dirty.
Again, you should read your sources--Maybe even your own posts:
Numbnutz said wrote:
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I like numbnuts, heh?
Former Milwaukee ACORN employee Kevin L. Clancy (pictured above) was convicted of election fraud... Clancy entered a guilty plea to playing a part “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,”....
Registering false applications to up your numbers is a different crime than voting under a false name.

Now when you can show that VOTING under a false name is a problem, then you have an argument.

FYI: ACORN is no longer in operation. Not sure why you keep pulling it outta your butt, but there you have it.
Hey OldMare

Alhambra, CA

#154931 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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If you want chicken, you have to have a rooster and a hen.
Smile.
PS Was that hate speech to say that???
If you want a chicken farm, all you need is a bunch of hens and one cock!

There: There's your argument for polygamy.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#154932 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Numbnuts wrote:
I never gave you "consent" to take away my right to same-sex marriage, so F*CKOFF DIPSH*T.
Californians never had the 'right' to same sex marriage until Walker's ruling. They took away nothing, you can still go to New York and marry, or ask your church for a same sex marriage ceremony (if they consent).

The issue is redefining marriage for everyone without the consent of the governed. You can tell we are on the right side of this issue by looking at the language our noble opponents use. See the quote above for proof.
Reality

Madison, WI

#154933 Aug 15, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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If you want chicken, you have to have a rooster and a hen.
Smile.
PS Was that hate speech to say that???
Dolly was born on 5 July 1996 to three mothers (one provided the egg, another the DNA and a third carried the cloned embryo to term).[7] She was created using the technique of somatic cell nuclear transfer, where the cell nucleus from an adult cell is transferred into an unfertilised oocyte (developing egg cell) that has had its nucleus removed. The hybrid cell is then stimulated to divide by an electric shock, and when it develops into a blastocyst it is implanted in a surrogate mother.[8] Dolly was the first clone produced from a cell taken from an adult mammal. The production of Dolly showed that genes in the nucleus of such a mature differentiated somatic cell are still capable of reverting back to an embryonic totipotent state, creating a cell that can then go on to develop into any part of an animal.[9] Dolly's existence was announced to the public on 22 February 1997.[1] It gained much attention in the media. A commercial with Scottish scientists playing with sheep was aired on TV, and a special report in TIME Magazine featured Dolly the sheep.[10] Science featured Dolly as the breakthrough of the year. Even though Dolly was not the first animal to be cloned, she gained this attention in the media because she was the first to be cloned from an adult cell.[11]

No male in sight..........
Local

Clearlake, CA

#154934 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Numbnuts wrote:
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Again, you should read your sources--Maybe even your own posts:
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Registering false applications to up your numbers is a different crime than voting under a false name.
Now when you can show that VOTING under a false name is a problem, then you have an argument.
FYI: ACORN is no longer in operation. Not sure why you keep pulling it outta your butt, but there you have it.
Hey numbnuts...read this.

Minnesota Majority’s Report on Felon Voter Fraud Convictions
Stemming from Minnesota’s 2008 General Election
October 13th, 2011 - Prepared by Dan McGrath
Page 1
Executive Summary

As of August 10th, 2011, 113 individuals are now known to have been convicted for voter fraud
committed in 2008. We believe this is the highest number of voter fraud convictions obtained in any
state for a single election cycle since 1936. In fact, according to a 2006 Justice Department report, there
have been more convictions for voter fraud in Minnesota from just the 2008 election than the DOJ was
able to prosecute over a five year span, nationwide.
While this number may seem a small percentage of the 2,803 suspected ineligible voters originally
submitted to county prosecutors for investigation, there is a wide gap between voting while ineligible and
voting while knowingly ineligible.........
In other words, most of the suspects on Minnesota Majority’s original list did, in fact, vote while ineligible,
but the standard for prosecution in Minnesota is “ineligible voter knowingly votes.” If an ineligible voter
claims not to have known they were breaking the law, it’s difficult for prosecutors to prove otherwise. In
essence, to be convicted of voter fraud, the suspect must generally admit willful, knowing guilt.

http://www.electionintegritywatch.com/documen...

The law decided that they would not convict a dummy(public school graduate) who was too stupid to know that they were voting fraudulently.

LMAO
Hey Brian

Alhambra, CA

#154935 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Californians never had the 'right' to same sex marriage until Walker's ruling. They took away nothing, you can still go to New York and marry, or ask your church for a same sex marriage ceremony (if they consent).
The issue is redefining marriage for everyone without the consent of the governed. You can tell we are on the right side of this issue by looking at the language our noble opponents use. See the quote above for proof.
Seriously, Brian,

Just go f*ckoff.

You know damn well that state had marriage equality prior to the passage of Prop 8.

Gawd! You're tedious.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154936 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Judge Walker disregarded the consent of the governed when he voided their democratic will to impose new marriage law on every Californian.
Most same sex marriage supporters don't care about consent, they want to impose new laws by unelected court decree.
Same sex marriage is bad because they don't care for consent.
That's simply a LIE on your part Brian and ya know it.......Judge Walker didn't disregard ANY consent of the Government or any other procedural process.

Judge Walker also did NOT impose new marriage laws on California.......in fact all he did was rule Prop 8 UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!
Plucker

Azusa, CA

#154937 Aug 15, 2012
Wonder what kind of Chicke Plucker would post there racist and threatening comments on TOPIX?

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154938 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Californians never had the 'right' to same sex marriage until Walker's ruling. They took away nothing, you can still go to New York and marry, or ask your church for a same sex marriage ceremony (if they consent).
The issue is redefining marriage for everyone without the consent of the governed. You can tell we are on the right side of this issue by looking at the language our noble opponents use. See the quote above for proof.
This is a BOGUS lie........Gays and Lesbians had the right to marry when the CSSC ruled in the re Marriage ruling(May 2008). Same-Sex Couples started getting married legally in June of 2008 and continued to get legally married until November 4th, 2008.

My wife and I are celebrating our 4th wedding anniversary tomorrow........18,000 legally married Same-Sex Couples have been celebrating their 4th wedding anniversaries as well.

You happen to be on the WRONG side of history and probably come the end of September........Prop 8 will be gone but for a bad memory..........Gays and Lesbians will be getting married again in California before the end of the year!!!!

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#154939 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Brian wrote:
Seriously, Brian, Just go f*ckoff.
^^^Most same sex marriage supporters post profanity. That's proof of intellectual bankruptcy.

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Hey Brian wrote:
You know damn well that state had marriage equality prior to the passage of Prop 8. Gawd! You're tedious.
No, California had an outlaw mayor in San Francisco who, unilaterally issued same sex couples marriage licenses. There was no law passed to permit same sex marriage in California. On August 12, citing the mayor's lack of authority to bypass state law, the Supreme Court of California ruled that the marriages were void.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriag...

If I'm wrong, cite the California state law that allows same sex marriage, tell us when it was passed and signed by the governor.

We can go over this again, if you like. Patience is a virtue.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#154940 Aug 15, 2012
Hey OldMare wrote:
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If you want a chicken farm, all you need is a bunch of hens and one cock!
There: There's your argument for polygamy.
I've got one wife and a lesbian to handle, your idea makes me a chicken.

LOL
Hey Numbnuts

Alhambra, CA

#154941 Aug 15, 2012
Local wrote:
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Minnesota Majority’s blah blah blah
So....How many of them actually voted? All your stats point to registering.

What the ratio of false voters versus the overall state?

And remember: The argument is VOTERS.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#154942 Aug 15, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
That's simply a LIE on your part Brian and ya know it.......Judge Walker didn't disregard ANY consent of the Government or any other procedural process.
When he voided the referendum, he disregarded the consent of the governed and the government.

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RnL2008 wrote:
Judge Walker also did NOT impose new marriage laws on California.......in fact all he did was rule Prop 8 UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!
In Walker's decision, he ruled: "California is able to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples..."
http://scholar.google.ca/scholar_case...

Down with unelected courts imposing law against the will of the majority.
Godfrey

Oroville, CA

#154943 Aug 15, 2012
The Judge that overturned it probably hasn't had any sex in 20 years and when he did it wasn't worth a crap you stupid fools.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154944 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
No, California had an outlaw mayor in San Francisco who, unilaterally issued same sex couples marriage licenses.
This was done in 2004 by then Mayor Gavin Newsome.......those 4200 marriages were eventually ruled invalid and void by the CSSC in the Lockyer v. City and County of San Francisco(2004).

However some couples sued and in May 2008, the CSSC ruled in the re Marriage case that Prop 22 was UNCONSTITUTIONAL. 30 days later on June 16,2008@5:01pm, Phyllis Lyon and her partner of 55 years Del Martin FINALLY had the legal marriage they had spent a lifetime fighting for........unfortunately, Del Martin passed away in August of 2008 and never lived long enough to see the battle continue.

Try doing some research on this issue before spouting your BS........today those 18,000 legally married Same-Sex Couples remain very much legally married in spite of the passage of Prop 8.......according to the ruling by the CSSC in May of 2009 in the Strauss vs Horton ruling!!!

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154945 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>When he voided the referendum, he disregarded the consent of the governed and the government.
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<quoted text>In Walker's decision, he ruled: "California is able to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples..."
http://scholar.google.ca/scholar_case...
Down with unelected courts imposing law against the will of the majority.
Again, NO HE DIDN'T.......and I'm sorry that you have difficulty understanding that all Judge Walker did was rule Prop 8 UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!

MY wife and I were legally married 2 years before Judge Walker EVER made his ruling on Prop 8.......today we have been legally married 4 year as of tomorrow..........Prop 8 didn't do anything to my marriage, but it did prevent other Same-Sex Couples from getting married.........the good news is that Prop 8 hasn't much longer before it is history just like Prop 22!!!
Local

Clearlake, CA

#154946 Aug 15, 2012
Hey Numbnuts wrote:
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So....How many of them actually voted? All your stats point to registering.
What the ratio of false voters versus the overall state?
And remember: The argument is VOTERS.
Hey numbnuts
The estimate of fraudulent votes was over 30,000 in that one study.

The conviction rate was low due to the fact that you cannot track down a person who registered and then voted with a false name.

You aren't very bright, are you?

We need a nationwide voter I.D. law.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154947 Aug 15, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
If I'm wrong, cite the California state law that allows same sex marriage, tell us when it was passed and signed by the governor.
The re Marriage ruling by the CSSC in May of 2008 took care of that. It's ruling went into effect at 5:01pm on the 16th of June 2008.
Hey Numbnuts

Alhambra, CA

#154948 Aug 15, 2012
Local wrote:
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Hey numbnuts
The estimate of fraudulent votes was over 30,000 in that one study.
The conviction rate was low due to the fact that you cannot track down a person who registered and then voted with a false name.
You aren't very bright, are you?
We need a nationwide voter I.D. law.
A. The opperative words are "estimate".

B. The report only tracked registered names of felons--NOT VOTES.

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