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KAT

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#45
Nov 17, 2010
 
Sean Hanagan wrote:
Once again, our County Supervisors cave in to a special interest group of Enviromentalists.
This is the same group of supervisors who found the Cross on the County Shield was offensive.
What a bunch of idiots.
Why don't they do some real work, like trying to balance a Budget.
They are too busy figuring out how they are going to spend their $3.5 million (to each of them) discretionary funds.
LongBeacher

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#46
Nov 17, 2010
 
Torrance Resident wrote:
What's next, banning disposable diapers? Since some think that it's ok to leave used diapers on the ground, all should have to suffer with a diaper ban. Back to cloth diapers and safety pins. Yes, it does use much more water to clean but logic is not used when deciding these issues. Don't look at the bigger picture. They sure didn't when pushing for a ban on incandescent light bulbs.
If disposable diapers reach a point where they are as much an environmental scourge as plastic shopping bags, they just might be banned.

So be it.
Juan el mexican chingon

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Welcome to Stupidfornia!!!! Hey liberal greeners, I have some questions for you idiots: Where the oil that leaks from car and truck engines on the street or parking spaces, where that oil goes when is raining??? To the ocean, you fools. Where the energy to recharge electric cars comes from??? From COAL plants, you idiots.(COAL is a major pollutant). What is the cleanest source of energy??? Nuclear plants, you retards.(Ask France). Ignorance and stupidity will bring this country down.
LongBeacher

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Juan el mexican chingon wrote:
Welcome to Stupidfornia!!!! Hey liberal greeners, I have some questions for you idiots: Where the oil that leaks from car and truck engines on the street or parking spaces, where that oil goes when is raining??? To the ocean, you fools. Where the energy to recharge electric cars comes from??? From COAL plants, you idiots.(COAL is a major pollutant). What is the cleanest source of energy??? Nuclear plants, you ****.(Ask France). Ignorance and stupidity will bring this country down.
Don't like California law? Go back to the rampant government corruption and murderous drug wars of your Third World-rate home nation. I hear the thick, choking brown smog of that overcrowded cesspool, Mexico City, is wonderfully eye-stinging this time of year, mexicano stupido.
taxpayer

Malibu, CA

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Tyrone wrote:
Everyone needs to stop complaining here!
We hire our politicians to do our thinking for us. Unless you're smarter than a politician, you have no right to question their decision.
I'm sure banning plastic bags will set a trend that the rest of the world will follow, all to make our society just that much more perfect.
yes, from the comments i've read here, we are smarter than these politicians!
Too Funny

Los Angeles, CA

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#50
Nov 17, 2010
 
doubledose wrote:
I always hated the plastic bags. Good riddance.
Really? Your life is so miserable that you actually "always hated plastic bags?" There are no more pressing issues in your life that you "hate plastic bags?" WOW! What a life you must lead.
todd

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#51
Nov 17, 2010
 
when did these so-called supervisors have the authority to make my choices for me? As they said in nam--KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMIE!!
LongBeacher

Downey, CA

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taxpayer wrote:
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yes, from the comments i've read here, we are smarter than these politicians!
Nope, you're not smarter. Politicians possess the inherent smarts, have acquired the education, experience, friends/alliances and made the smart choices to acquire the positions of power and influence that you have no hope of achieving. In other words, you simply lack "THE RIGHT STUFF".
LongBeacher

Downey, CA

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Nov 17, 2010
 
Too Funny wrote:
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Really? Your life is so miserable that you actually "always hated plastic bags?" There are no more pressing issues in your life that you "hate plastic bags?" WOW! What a life you must lead.
WOW! Like you don't your have own personal preferences and idiotsynchrocies. You're life must be so deprived you can't get along without plastic shopping bags.
LongBeacher

Downey, CA

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KAT wrote:
So instead of reusing my plastic shopping bags as trash can liners in my home office, bedroom and bathroom trashcans, I will now BUY plastic bags for the same purpose. Bags that are bulkier and will probably take even longer to degrade. We also reuse our bags for cleaning the litter box. So, yet another bag I'm going buy. So from my personal experience, I don't see how it helps. Same number of bags. This is just another example of the government modifying YOUR behavior to what they believe it should be.
We found that we don't need to line trash cans in the office (all recyclable paper waste), bedroom (why a trash can in the sleeping/dressing/sex room?), bathroom (we don't use Q-tips and flush tissue-type paper).

The cat litter-box is a thornier problem though. We stopped using pan liners because our beloved kitty "Spook" (God bless and RIP, Spooky, we miss you!) would tear the plastic liners (we oppose declawing). We started scooping out and flushing her solid waste and using copious amounts of odor-absorbent baking soda to neutralize her fluid waste until cleaning her pee/poo pan was unavoidable. We also used the plastic shop bags to dispose of her waste but then realized we could flush the ammonia-fouled clay litter with no problem (to us, at least) and cleaned out the non-plastic lined pan in the shower/bathtub.

Not much fuss or muss and no plastic bag waste.
MrSmithster

San Pedro, CA

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#55
Nov 17, 2010
 
Why cant they just rule that stores can offer plastic bags as long as they are biodegradable? And how does this pass with Prop 26 saying ALL fees need a 2/3 vote of the people?
MrSmithster

San Pedro, CA

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#56
Nov 17, 2010
 
Remember...its not their fault, Liberals just want to spread the misery evenly...
whatever

El Segundo, CA

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VICB3 wrote:
World improving Political Correctness and the triumph of form over competency and substance in action.
Also look for an uptick of food related illnesses caused by contaminated reuseable shopping bags, meaning that the law of unintended results is now in play.
Plus, it's a law that will probably be ignored, except those stores wanting to charge you extra for a paper bag, plus sales tax of course. Which adds to the cost of living. And since the unincorporated parts of L.A. County aren't the wealthiest, it can be argued that this law targets the poor. But then socialists looking to remake society always target the powerless first.
It's easy to go on here. There are so many things wrong with this law.
Just a thought.
VicB3
What unpackaged, bacteria-haboring foods do YOU buy then never wash or cook before eating?
whatever

El Segundo, CA

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jlalb wrote:
I personally don't like the reusable bags. You put too much into them and they're too heavy for me to carry. Also the straps aren't that strong and could rip if too heavy. You used to be asked paper or plastic. They did away with the paper and you only had a choice of plastic. Now they're doing away with plastic in certain parts of the county and it's paper for 10 cents a bag. It's more than plastic bags that end up in the ocean. It's mattresses, car parts, baby strollers or pieces of, etc. I'm tired of the government telling me what I can/can't do in my life!
What reusable bags are you using?

The ones I bought at Ralphs are much stronger than the plastic ones.

If they are too heavy, put fewer things in them.

Buy, yes, this ban is stupid.

Very, very stupid.
whatever

El Segundo, CA

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Nov 17, 2010
 
Phatboy wrote:
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Jeez, Tyrone...ever read Orwell?
That post was sarcasm fatboy, sarcasm.
whatever

El Segundo, CA

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#60
Nov 17, 2010
 
What Island wrote:
"A Pulitzer Prize-winning Los Angeles Times series in 2006 documented how plastics were choking the seas. In one region in the Pacific Ocean halfway between San Francisco and Hawaii, a garbage patch twice the size of Texas is swirling clockwise, filled with plastic debris that is ingested by birds and other wildlife."
Where are the photos or satellite images of this patch??
Remember the Algalita Marine Research Foundation Junk boat that set out to the so called garbage patch? After trolling for 24 hours, 50 miles across the pacific gyre they came up with about a table spoon of garbage!
Just another environmental feel good law that does not address the real issue, which is litter !
We all ready have laws on the books to deter litter, with sizable fines. But they are not enforced.
Thanks to the LA Times and our ignorant Supervisors I get to purchase trash bags for my house, bags for pet clean up, and lunch bags for my kids.
No wonder the grocers association supported this, I get to purchase all these bags at the grocery store!
Where are the photos? What would satisfy you, a landfill floating on the surface?

The Great Pacific Garbage Patch or whatever they call it was discovered years ago by fishermen. It exists. By the time the bags, bottles, and whatnot make it that far out to sea, they have broken up into very small pieces, hence they are eaten by marine life.

But since you can't see it with your eyes, I guess it's okay.

But yes, this ban is stupid.
LongBeacher

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#61
Nov 17, 2010
 
MrSmithster wrote:
Remember...its not their fault, Liberals just want to spread the misery evenly...
Everyone's self-made miseries are all his and her your own fault. When your life doesn't pan out like you hoped, always blame Liberals.
westside steve

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Nov 17, 2010
 
whatever wrote:
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Where are the photos? What would satisfy you, a landfill floating on the surface?
The Great Pacific Garbage Patch or whatever they call it was discovered years ago by fishermen. It exists. By the time the bags, bottles, and whatnot make it that far out to sea, they have broken up into very small pieces, hence they are eaten by marine life.
But since you can't see it with your eyes, I guess it's okay.
But yes, this ban is stupid.
OK, think about it a second, from what direction are the prevailing winds in SoCal blowing from. The surf pushes floating objects towards shore from which direction?

If you said "West" to both, you get a cookie. So this garbage patch is created from loose bags blowing over the Rockies, across the plains, over the Appalachians, over the Atlantic Ocean, across all of Europe, then across all of Asia, then across roughly half of equatorial Pacific to land in the sea and degrade. Yeah, right!

Look sheople,
"Question Authority" includes Scientists and especially "not-for-profits", who are all about the Benjamins to promote any cause be it outrageously rediculous like this one or not. Use your heads !!!!

If there is a patch decaying plastic, it is coming from Asia and Australia.
To LongBeacher

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Nov 17, 2010
 
LongBeacher wrote:
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Everyone's self-made miseries are all his and her your own fault. When your life doesn't pan out like you hoped, always blame Liberals.
Of course, we can't blame bloody "Joe" Stalin anymore,
or the evil Nazis.
Aren't we lucky, now we have the Liberals.

To change things for the better,
we elected our Arnie Governator.

Since: Jun 08

Lynwood, CA

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#64
Nov 18, 2010
 
Tyrone wrote:
Everyone needs to stop complaining here!
We hire our politicians to do our thinking for us. Unless you're smarter than a politician, you have no right to question their decision.
I'm sure banning plastic bags will set a trend that the rest of the world will follow, all to make our society just that much more perfect.
I'm confused, either that was the perfect sarcastic statement or a cry for help.

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