I am so sorry for the loss of these two men. I knew Murray "Muzz" Brown for over 20 years, he married my friend. He was a very intelligent man, and will be missed by me. He was a very knowledgeable professional in his field. He trained with my now ex husband, he was a good man. My heart and my prayers go out to the families. I know you are devastated I just can't imagine the depth of your loss, but know this: you are in my prayers.