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Titusville great-grandmother's pet dogs maul her to death, will...

Lorraine May loved her three dogs. On Thursday, police say, two of them killed the 74-year-old Titusville woman, leaving May with a dislocated shoulder and too many bite marks on her body to count.

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#1
Jun 28, 2008
 
Why is this under Lake County local news. The county is not even close.

New look but same service?

Where is the difference? Opps, I am sorry it only took 1 person to write this article and not six
Unbelievable Seriously
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#2
Jun 28, 2008
 
I'm just curious at to what those dogs used as a weapon to cause the blunt force trauma...... and she had a dislocated shoulder? Something just doesn't sound right!
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Jun 28, 2008
 
Unbelievable Seriously wrote:
I'm just curious at to what those dogs used as a weapon to cause the blunt force trauma...... and she had a dislocated shoulder? Something just doesn't sound right!
A weapon is not needed to incur blunt force trauma.....many abused children die of blunt force, not because something hit them but because their head hit something, ie: wall or floor. If you stop to think for a moment about how dogs will while
playing (let alone an actual attack) with toys shake them or throw them into the air, it is easy to see how she sustained those injuries.
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#4
Jun 28, 2008
 
I'm going to lay my "blunt force trauma" bet on a subdural hematoma, secondary to a fall. And I'm going to hedge this bet with the dislocated shoulder evidence.

What an awful thing to happen. Poor lady. May she rest in peace and her family be comforted.
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#5
Jun 29, 2008
 
My condolences to the family of this lady.
4 comments here about this tragic death.
Can you just imagine the comments that would have been left if one or both of these dogs were alleged to be Pit type dogs.
Hopefully some lessons will be learned from this tragedy.
Breed/type or size is irrelevant.
There are always signs of aggressive behavior that are either missed or ignored.
Something should have been done about these dogs before something so tragic happened.
Retraining or separating dogs that had been known to fight and show aggression.
Unfortunately it`s too late for this lady but perhaps education will help another person.
NEVER ignore signs of aggression.
Todd Blankenship
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#6
Jun 29, 2008
 
Retriever Owner; The reason this doesn't generate the interest of a pit bull murder is because occurrences such as these are relative flukes, whereas murder by pit bulls are infinitely more predictable and raise the ire of the public. Perhaps the biggest surprise here is the lack of speculation that the "mix" portion of these dogs might have been some portion pit bull. Then this story would make sense.
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Jun 29, 2008
 
[quote]Perhaps the biggest surprise here is the lack of speculation that the "mix" portion of these dogs might have been some portion pit bull. Then this story would make sense.[/quote]

Believing that these rare fatalities is a breed/type issue is the reason this keeps happening.
50+ breeds have killed worldwide.
Dogs don`t commit murder.
That`s a human thing.
This is a human problem.
The media has created this hysteria surrounding Pit type dogs and nothing more.
Pit Bull sells papers and if the media could turn one of these dogs into a "Pit Bull" they would.
At least one of these dogs were known to be aggressive and both dogs had previously fought.
Those were the signs that were ignored.
When the media reports a "Pit Bull" puppy playing with a shoelace as an "attack" you know where the problem lies.
As long as people think this is a Breed issue,bites will not decline and the very rare fatalities will keep occurring.
You`re talking nonsense to the wrong person.
I know the facts about the dogs known as "Pit Bulls".
I suggest you do some reading about the dogs that you are attempting to malign.
http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/section.p...
Millions live in homes as beloved family pets just like other dogs.
They are JUST dogs.
They have no magical powers.
They consistently outscore the all Breed average in temperament testing.
http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/topic.php...
They work as Therapy dogs,
http://www.ourpack.org/
K9 Officers,
http://www.lawdogsusa.org/lawdogs.html
Search and Rescue Dogs,
http://www.forpitssake.org/sar.html
Service dogs
http://www.chloethepitbull.com/
and are National Athletic Champions such as Wallace the Pit Bull-the 2007 Purina IDC National Champion.
http://wallacethepitbull.com/
The only reason people think attacks by other Breeds/types are rare is because the media does not report them and that is because the Public has NO interest in them.
The first face transplant was due to a Lab mauling the face off a woman.
This story would instantly be in hundreds,if not thousands of Newspapers around the world with thousands of postings by uninformed people demanding that something be done about these "killer" dogs if these dogs were purported to be "Pit Bulls".
I wondered how long it would take for someone to allege that the mix might be "Pit Bull" which isn`t a breed but a term used to describe 3 breeds.
Congratulations it didn`t take long.
Perhaps the mix is one of these other 20+ Breeds that only LOOK like the 3 Breeds that fall under the term "Pit Bull".
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Findthebull/...
Perhaps the mix is a Jack Russel Terrier.
One of them killed a baby not long ago.
Maybe the mix is a Pomeranian.
One of them killed a baby.
Boy I thought I had heard it all but murder by Pit Bull takes the cake.
This is a human problem,not a dog problem.
Warning signs were there and they either weren`t recognized or were ignored.
It`s time to quit blaming "Pit Bulls" for EVERY dog related incident and time to start educating the Public so these VERY rare fatalities can hopefully be stopped and dog bites by ALL breeds/types can be reduced.
There are NO safe Breeds.
They can ALL bite.
They can ALL kill.
The reason there isn`t a frenzied horde here posting is because these dogs aren`t "Pit Bulls".
You should see the postings on the story about a "Pit Bull" puppy "attacking" a shoelace.
It`s time to knock off the "Pit Bull" hysteria and start educating the public about Canine behavior and the responsibility that goes with owning a dog.
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Jun 29, 2008
 
The media as a reliable source re Breed identification?
I don`t think so.
It`s hard to take it back once it`s put out there.
"Pit Bulls" are paying the price for irresponsible Journalists and uniformed posters.
http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/...
My condolences once again to the family of this lady.
Lets hope some lessons are learned from this tragedy so that other families don`t have to go through this.
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#9
Jun 29, 2008
 
Bwaaaaahahahaha! So called retriever owner, you're a freakin' riot! I picked up on your bait and troll with this line: "Can you just imagine the comments that would have been left if one or both of these dogs were alleged to be Pit type dogs." (I especially like the “alleged” part!)

Why do you think I bothered to remark? Could you be more transparent?

Next time try some links that aren't copied and pasted straight from the pit bull propagandists’ reference list. And nice try with the "retriever owner" thing. What are you, 12?

Within all the spamorific links you posted, would I find the answer to this one question? How come pit bulls account for roughly 5% of all dogs, but accounted for 60% of all human fatalities just last year?

Hysteria? I think not. But thanks for playing.
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#10
Jun 30, 2008
 
I am wondering when legislators will enforce an ignorance ban because this country sure is full of ignorant people, who are too lazy to do any research into canine aggression. Maybe you people should stop getting all your knowledge from such deeply tainted sources as the media and actually pick up a book! It might surprise you to learn that ANY dog who has teeth is capable of inflicting harm on people and animals, if they are not trained and socialized. If you have never met an aggressive labrador, retriever, or any other termed 'family friendly' dog then it is obvious that you are not walking your dogs daily around your neighborhoods. Wake up America!!
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#11
Jun 30, 2008
 
Wow, Todd Blankenship.

Could you please link to the study that states pit bull accounted for 60% of all human fatalities just last year?

I would have thought car accidents or disasters such as earthquakes and tornados would have been responsible for more deaths.

But, heck, what do I know? I get my data from peer-reviewed articles and insert a bit of common sense where necessary. Your world sounds far more fascinating.
Todd Blankenship
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#12
Jun 30, 2008
 
Sure thing,'Researcher.' I think the context clearly infers human fatalities from dog attacks. Intelligent people will understand that. Intelligent people also recognize when someone feigns misunderstanding because of a semantic flaw. That fulcrum only leveraged you out of credibility. No question about that.

What they won't understand is your choice to avoid the question: How come pit bulls account for roughly 5% of dogs but are responsible for 60% of all dog attack fatalities? <Source: Dogsbite.org >

And I’m sorry to have to question the value of your peer-reviewed articles when these articles require the reader supply their own common sense.(You did want to play the semantics game, right?)

Pits, 5% of all dogs, 60% of dog attack fatalities... What’s your common sense telling you now?
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#13
Jul 1, 2008
 
I apply common sense to everything I read, Todd--even peer-reviewed articles. I suggest everyone do the same.

I checked out this study from the site you mentioned http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

I notice that they say "pit-bull type dogs." That's not a breed.You can't make comparisons of breeds when you don't have valid definitions for the breeds you're comparing. Here's where common sense comes in handy when reading studies.
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Jul 1, 2008
 
Retriever Owner wrote:
[quote]Perhaps the biggest surprise here is the lack of speculation that the "mix" portion of these dogs might have been some portion pit bull. Then this story would make sense.[/quote]
Believing that these rare fatalities is a breed/type issue is the reason this keeps happening.
50+ breeds have killed worldwide.
Dogs don`t commit murder.
That`s a human thing.
This is a human problem.
The media has created this hysteria surrounding Pit type dogs and nothing more.
Pit Bull sells papers and if the media could turn one of these dogs into a "Pit Bull" they would.
At least one of these dogs were known to be aggressive and both dogs had previously fought.
Those were the signs that were ignored.
When the media reports a "Pit Bull" puppy playing with a shoelace as an "attack" you know where the problem lies.
As long as people think this is a Breed issue,bites will not decline and the very rare fatalities will keep occurring.
You`re talking nonsense to the wrong person.
I know the facts about the dogs known as "Pit Bulls".
I suggest you do some reading about the dogs that you are attempting to malign.
http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/section.p...
Millions live in homes as beloved family pets just like other dogs.
They are JUST dogs.
They have no magical powers.
They consistently outscore the all Breed average in temperament testing.
http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/topic.php...
They work as Therapy dogs,
http://www.ourpack.org/
K9 Officers,
http://www.lawdogsusa.org/lawdogs.html
Search and Rescue Dogs,
http://www.forpitssake.org/sar.html
Service dogs
http://www.chloethepitbull.com/
and are National Athletic Champions such as Wallace the Pit Bull-the 2007 Purina IDC National Champion.
http://wallacethepitbull.com/
The only reason people think attacks by other Breeds/types are rare is because the media does not report them and that is because the Public has NO interest in them.
The first face transplant was due to a Lab mauling the face off a woman.
This story would instantly be in hundreds,if not thousands of Newspapers around the world with thousands of postings by uninformed people demanding that something be done about these "killer" dogs if these dogs were purported to be "Pit Bulls".
I wondered how long it would take for someone to allege that the mix might be "Pit Bull" which isn`t a breed but a term used to describe 3 breeds.
Congratulations it didn`t take long.
Perhaps the mix is one of these other 20+ Breeds that only LOOK like the 3 Breeds that fall under the term "Pit Bull".
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Findthebull/...
Perhaps the mix is a Jack Russel Terrier.
One of them killed a baby not long ago.
Maybe the mix is a Pomeranian.
One of them killed a baby.
Boy I thought I had heard it all but murder by Pit Bull takes the cake.
This is a human problem,not a dog problem.
Warning signs were there and they either weren`t recognized or were ignored.
It`s time to quit blaming "Pit Bulls" for EVERY dog related incident and time to start educating the Public so these VERY rare fatalities can hopefully be stopped and dog bites by ALL breeds/types can be reduced.
There are NO safe Breeds.
They can ALL bite.
They can ALL kill.
The reason there isn`t a frenzied horde here posting is because these dogs aren`t "Pit Bulls".
You should see the postings on the story about a "Pit Bull" puppy "attacking" a shoelace.
It`s time to knock off the "Pit Bull" hysteria and start educating the public about Canine behavior and the responsibility that goes with owning a dog.
oh yeah becuase only dogs with pit bull in them are capable of mauling.
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