Wrongful Convictions -- Stealing Lives One Person at a Time

Emily wrote:

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I am referring to the period of time that Kelsey was being moved around, starting in January and prior to being returned to her mother's custody.

You mean when Judge Key sent that poor, defenseless baby home to die?

ELHalfpenny wrote:

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I disagree at least one of them had to have a THIRD "suspect". Or else was covering their own butt.
I suspect the one that DHS had their eye on and/or her boyfriend and later husband had MORE to prove.
At this point can ANYONE dispute that Kelsey could not have died from injuries caused by the Briggs?

The Briggs did NOT INJURE KELSEY.

ELHalfpenny wrote:

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I mostly disagree. At least one person making accusations KNEW that there was a third party involved. That person, the one DHS was monitoring, had much more to prove/hide. Instead of doing the decent thing one party choose to take their daughters abuse and us it as a oppertunity to "get even" with their ex inlaws.
At this point is there any question that the Brigg's were not responsible for the abuse or Kelsey's death?
Since it is impossible that the Brigg's are responsible who does that leave? Two people, neither of whome has ever told the truth about the night Kelsey was murdered.

Get ready for the FKM supporters to claim that, even though the Briggs only once in four months, that they abused Kelsey by telekinesis.

I need to find the letter to the Briggs from Kelsey's CASA worker and post it here. VERY informative from her perspective and who she says in her opinion killed Kelsey. Sad, it was stated in the beginning that "in case something happened to" her(the CASA worker), they would know her side of things. She admitted she made grave mistakes in Kelsey's case, also admitting she was left out of the loop and was NOT given very important information on what was going on, when she made her recommendations in court.

ELHalfpenny wrote:

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I disagree at least one of them had to have a THIRD "suspect". Or else was covering their own butt.
I suspect the one that DHS had their eye on and/or her boyfriend and later husband had MORE to prove.
At this point can ANYONE dispute that Kelsey could not have died from injuries caused by the Briggs?

NoUse wrote:

I need to find the letter to the Briggs from Kelsey's CASA worker and post it here. VERY informative from her perspective and who she says in her opinion killed Kelsey. Sad, it was stated in the beginning that "in case something happened to" her(the CASA worker), they would know her side of things. She admitted she made grave mistakes in Kelsey's case, also admitting she was left out of the loop and was NOT given very important information on what was going on, when she made her recommendations in court.
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I hope you do, Tulsa. I'm anxious to read it. And here's another point. Why would the CASA worked worry about something happening to her?

You'll understand that when you read the book. I'll try to find that letter tomorrow.

KelseysVoice wrote:

<quoted text>I hope you do, Tulsa. I'm anxious to read it. And here's another point. Why would the CASA worked worry about something happening to her?

NoUse wrote:

You'll understand that when you read the book. I'll try to find that letter tomorrow.
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Looking forward to it.

This is written by a child now grown in responce to the abuse of her mother by proxy.

'He quickly learned that the best way to get to our mother was through her children, realizing that abusing us was a far better and more effective way to hurt HER. This chain of events is at the heart of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE by proxy.
If we accept the abuser's claims that he's a good parent, I ask you, would a good parent withhold crying little kids begging for their mother? Wouldn't a good parent console, calm and reassure his children that they're loved and safe - that Mommy's just a phone call away?
....
- I think it's the sweetest and most attractive male quality to see a dad being nurturing towards a child but I didn't have a dad - The mother can only stand helplessly by as suspicious authoritative eyes keep a close watch on her while she prays for someone to see the truth and intervene because she’s no longer able to do so.
Even when a good father feels that he is being unfairly portrayed by his ex-wife, he does not set out to rip his child away from a loving mother and attempt to destroy the close bond his child has with that other parent. Yet these abusers systematically support the removal of any child from their mother despite the valid concerns of abuse. Their goals are to reduce or eliminate child-support, roll back protections against domestic violence .
These self-admitted “Feminist Haters”(as one site refers to themselves) have come to realize that the best way to hurt their partner and punish her for leaving or pressure her to return is to go after her children. Unfortunately we have seen this strategy play out in murders or murder-suicides, but most of the time abusive fathers who had little involvement with the children during the relationship suddenly seek custody after she leaves. This is Domestic Violence by Proxy in its purist form. The court system and the inadequately trained professionals often used by the courts have been slow to recognize this all too common phenomenon.
He was cooperative and my mother was unrelenting in her determination to protect us.
Research shows that when children lose their primary attachment figure (the parent that performed most of the child care in the first couple of years of a child's life), they are more likely to experience depression, low self-esteem and suicide among other harm.... My mom was once asked when she escaped the domestic violence from my father. I was surprised when she replied “the day I got my kids back.” When she was asked to elaborate she replied “even though he wasn’t hitting me anymore, his abuse continued through my children and that was even more devastating than any beating he gave me.” It was at that moment I realized that we were nothing but a tool for my father to continue to abuse his mother. It is time to recognize Domestic Violence by Proxy and understand that condoning the Parental Alienation deception is the route of “Court Appointed - Child Abuse.” It’s time to stop the “CA – CA!”
Jennifer Collins
CA3 Children Against Court Appointed Child Abuse
Posted by childrenunderground

YaMeVoy wrote:

This is written by a child now grown in responce to the abuse of her mother by proxy.
'He quickly learned that the best way to get to our mother was through her children, realizing that abusing us was a far better and more effective way to hurt HER. This chain of events is at the heart of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE by proxy.
If we accept the abuser's claims that he's a good parent, I ask you, would a good parent withhold crying little kids begging for their mother? Wouldn't a good parent console, calm and reassure his children that they're loved and safe - that Mommy's just a phone call away?
....
- I think it's the sweetest and most attractive male quality to see a dad being nurturing towards a child but I didn't have a dad - The mother can only stand helplessly by as suspicious authoritative eyes keep a close watch on her while she prays for someone to see the truth and intervene because she’s no longer able to do so.
Even when a good father feels that he is being unfairly portrayed by his ex-wife, he does not set out to rip his child away from a loving mother and attempt to destroy the close bond his child has with that other parent. Yet these abusers systematically support the removal of any child from their mother despite the valid concerns of abuse. Their goals are to reduce or eliminate child-support, roll back protections against domestic violence .
These self-admitted “Feminist Haters”(as one site refers to themselves) have come to realize that the best way to hurt their partner and punish her for leaving or pressure her to return is to go after her children. Unfortunately we have seen this strategy play out in murders or murder-suicides, but most of the time abusive fathers who had little involvement with the children during the relationship suddenly seek custody after she leaves. This is Domestic Violence by Proxy in its purist form. The court system and the inadequately trained professionals often used by the courts have been slow to recognize this all too common phenomenon.
He was cooperative and my mother was unrelenting in her determination to protect us.
Research shows that when children lose their primary attachment figure (the parent that performed most of the child care in the first couple of years of a child's life), they are more likely to experience depression, low self-esteem and suicide among other harm.... My mom was once asked when she escaped the domestic violence from my father. I was surprised when she replied “the day I got my kids back.” When she was asked to elaborate she replied “even though he wasn’t hitting me anymore, his abuse continued through my children and that was even more devastating than any beating he gave me.” It was at that moment I realized that we were nothing but a tool for my father to continue to abuse his mother. It is time to recognize Domestic Violence by Proxy and understand that condoning the Parental Alienation deception is the route of “Court Appointed - Child Abuse.” It’s time to stop the “CA – CA!”
Jennifer Collins
CA3 Children Against Court Appointed Child Abuse
Posted by childrenunderground

Sue, I don't see where you're going with this. Lance was always on time with child support. Once he knew he was the father, he took good care of Kelsey.

No one from the Briggs tried to take Kelsey from Raye Dawn. The ultimtae decision made in January of 2005 was by the DHS.

And Raye Dawn admitted to the DHS in February of 2005 that she had hit Kelsey on the bottom with a hair brush, which explained the bruises and marks found there in January.

My spelling mistake. ultimate.

Raye also admitted to DHS in February of 2005 that she had hit Kelsey on the bottom with a hairbrush, resulting in some of the bruises and abrasions that prompted the initial decision to remove Kelsey in January.

What you posted has absolutely nothing to do with Kelsey's case.

YaMeVoy wrote:

This is written by a child now grown in responce to the abuse of her mother by proxy.
'He quickly learned that the best way to get to our mother was through her children, realizing that abusing us was a far better and more effective way to hurt HER. This chain of events is at the heart of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE by proxy.
If we accept the abuser's claims that he's a good parent, I ask you, would a good parent withhold crying little kids begging for their mother? Wouldn't a good parent console, calm and reassure his children that they're loved and safe - that Mommy's just a phone call away?
....
- I think it's the sweetest and most attractive male quality to see a dad being nurturing towards a child but I didn't have a dad - The mother can only stand helplessly by as suspicious authoritative eyes keep a close watch on her while she prays for someone to see the truth and intervene because she’s no longer able to do so.
Even when a good father feels that he is being unfairly portrayed by his ex-wife, he does not set out to rip his child away from a loving mother and attempt to destroy the close bond his child has with that other parent. Yet these abusers systematically support the removal of any child from their mother despite the valid concerns of abuse. Their goals are to reduce or eliminate child-support, roll back protections against domestic violence .
These self-admitted “Feminist Haters”(as one site refers to themselves) have come to realize that the best way to hurt their partner and punish her for leaving or pressure her to return is to go after her children. Unfortunately we have seen this strategy play out in murders or murder-suicides, but most of the time abusive fathers who had little involvement with the children during the relationship suddenly seek custody after she leaves. This is Domestic Violence by Proxy in its purist form. The court system and the inadequately trained professionals often used by the courts have been slow to recognize this all too common phenomenon.
He was cooperative and my mother was unrelenting in her determination to protect us.
Research shows that when children lose their primary attachment figure (the parent that performed most of the child care in the first couple of years of a child's life), they are more likely to experience depression, low self-esteem and suicide among other harm.... My mom was once asked when she escaped the domestic violence from my father. I was surprised when she replied “the day I got my kids back.” When she was asked to elaborate she replied “even though he wasn’t hitting me anymore, his abuse continued through my children and that was even more devastating than any beating he gave me.” It was at that moment I realized that we were nothing but a tool for my father to continue to abuse his mother. It is time to recognize Domestic Violence by Proxy and understand that condoning the Parental Alienation deception is the route of “Court Appointed - Child Abuse.” It’s time to stop the “CA – CA!”
Jennifer Collins
CA3 Children Against Court Appointed Child Abuse
Posted by childrenunderground

NoUse wrote:

What you posted has absolutely nothing to do with Kelsey's case.
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She's gone back to indirectly attacking Lance again, Tulsa.

Yeah I see that. She's disgusting. My opinion

I share your opinion, as do many others.

Hit and Run by a Drunk Driver
Posted at 04:43 AM on November 08, 2009

On August 19, 2005, at 10:23pm. Michael Porter, Raye Dawn, and Kelsey were struck by a drunk driver.
The Porters were driving through an intersection in Shawnee, Oklahoma when a
drunk driver made a left hand turn into them,
their vehicle.
The drunk driver left the scene of the accident.

Kelsey had been riding in a toddler seat and sustained a reddened area around her left eye and bruising to her forehead,
the bridge of her nose,
and her abdomen.

She also complained of pain in her abdomen and her elbow.
(Pictures of Kelsey have been
shown on TV and
on various websites to rally
against abuse.

The photograph of her
in a swing
with bruises
to her face was taken
shortly after the
automobile accident.)

Raye Dawn and Porter took Kelsey to the emergency room the night of the accident at approximately 12:30am.

They waited to be seen by a physician until 2:45am.

During this time,

Kelsey was seen running around the emergency room, eating Doritos,
and acting like a normal toddler.

Raye Dawn reported the accident to DHS the following day and told them that
the nurse didn’t suspect internal injuries because Kelsey was so rambunctious.
The family ultimately left the emergency room without having Kelsey seen.

Kelsey’s appetite diminished even more after the accident and she refused to eat.
On August 25th, Raye Dawn was accompanied by the CHBS worker to Dr. Koons’ office.

The doctor noted:

1. Bruise to her left hip.

2. Bruise on her left mandible.

3. Bruise on her left cheek.

4. Not as playful since she was told she’d have to visit her stepmother.

6. Kelsey had also been having seizures, also referred to as night terrors.

After Kelsey’s visit with her stepmother, Ashley, on August 27, 2005,
a DHS abuse report was
called in by Ashley stating that
Kelsey was acting timid,
had lost weight,
and her eye was red.
This report was “screened out” due to the fact that Kelsey’s doctor
had documented the injuries from the auto accident in her August 25th report.

http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....

YaMeVoy wrote:

Hit and Run by a Drunk Driver
Posted at 04:43 AM on November 08, 2009
On August 19, 2005, at 10:23pm. Michael Porter, Raye Dawn, and Kelsey were struck by a drunk driver.
The Porters were driving through an intersection in Shawnee, Oklahoma when a
drunk driver made a left hand turn into them,
their vehicle.
The drunk driver left the scene of the accident.
Kelsey had been riding in a toddler seat and sustained a reddened area around her left eye and bruising to her forehead,
the bridge of her nose,
and her abdomen.
She also complained of pain in her abdomen and her elbow.
(Pictures of Kelsey have been
shown on TV and
on various websites to rally
against abuse.
The photograph of her
in a swing
with bruises
to her face was taken
shortly after the
automobile accident.)
Raye Dawn and Porter took Kelsey to the emergency room the night of the accident at approximately 12:30am.
They waited to be seen by a physician until 2:45am.
During this time,
Kelsey was seen running around the emergency room, eating Doritos,
and acting like a normal toddler.
Raye Dawn reported the accident to DHS the following day and told them that
the nurse didn’t suspect internal injuries because Kelsey was so rambunctious.
The family ultimately left the emergency room without having Kelsey seen.
Kelsey’s appetite diminished even more after the accident and she refused to eat.
On August 25th, Raye Dawn was accompanied by the CHBS worker to Dr. Koons’ office.
The doctor noted:
1. Bruise to her left hip.
2. Bruise on her left mandible.
3. Bruise on her left cheek.
4. Not as playful since she was told she’d have to visit her stepmother.
6. Kelsey had also been having seizures, also referred to as night terrors.
After Kelsey’s visit with her stepmother, Ashley, on August 27, 2005,
a DHS abuse report was
called in by Ashley stating that
Kelsey was acting timid,
had lost weight,
and her eye was red.
This report was “screened out” due to the fact that Kelsey’s doctor
had documented the injuries from the auto accident in her August 25th report.
http://helprayedawnsmithfightforfreedom.webs....

The injury is called a retinal hemorrhage. Dr. Koons wrote that the injuries were excessive. Where was Kelsey when she was murdered? With her mother. whokilledkelsey.com

KelseysVoice wrote:

<quoted text>She's gone back to indirectly attacking Lance again, Tulsa.

Apparently, Lance Briggs, a person she doe not even know has become the earthly embodiment of Sue's father and her husbands and every other man she has even known.

In Sue's mind her life of misery injustice and dispair is all Lance Briggs fault.