Tony Alamo's Baby cemeteries and unlicensed Midwives

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Modesto

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Mar 14, 2008
 
Anthony,

I don't really know for sure because I left when Susan was still alive,many years ago.

My gut feeling is though, that that is almost certainly not true.Sorry, I hate to sound like I'm saying anything good about the cult but I really doubt that one.

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Modesto wrote:
Anthony,
I don't really know for sure because I left when Susan was still alive,many years ago.
My gut feeling is though, that that is almost certainly not true.Sorry, I hate to sound like I'm saying anything good about the cult but I really doubt that one.
Oh No You don't sound like you are talking good about. You just spoke the truth. I know some names but I am not gonna say I am hoping the person who brought this to my attention will tell what he/she knows anonymously becouse I know he/she wont do it openly.

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Mar 14, 2008
 
I've been told by ex-members that alot are delivered by unlicensed mid wives and that they dont record those births. But it looks like the state of Arkansas does'nt care.

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I thank the Lord that you guys are mad, It means I am doing something right you don't like and that is worrying you. All these things you guys are saying against me is expected.. Ha Ha I'm doing something right Exposing Tony Alamo in the right places Ha Ha. I will not stop. Save the children.
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By: Anthony Lane, Fort Smith
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Ex Members of the Tony Alamo Cult Speak out at Factnet. Please read this and join the fight to stop Tony Alamo from molesting and abusing children.
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Partnered Against Cult Activity is a growing grass roots group started in Fouke Arkansas, whose goal is to educate and inform the public to the truth behind the Tony Alamo Christian Church and to stop his church growth. This is done through information we distribute based on witness statements, court documented testimonies, newspaper articles, State and Federal reports and records. The group consist of Fouke and Texarkana residents. PACA also includes ex-members of the Tony and Susan Alamo Foundation scattered around the United States.
PACA is determined also to identify and expose any city council member, local official or others whose actions imply they are enabling Alamo and his associates.
The atrocities we believe they commit under the disguise of a religious society should be a concern to all intelligent adults. This includes physical abuse and polygamy with under age females.
Tony Alamo Christian Church. This cult, started by the infamous Tony Alamo moved to Fouke in the 1990's after Tony Alamo was released from the federal penitentiary in Texarkana.
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I have never heard of a baby dying at the church.

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There were a few when I was there. They were always buried in a cemetery'

Anthony, I believe you might be thinking of the catholics. From what I understand when the nuns deliver a baby by the priests, the baby is babtized then killed before they throw it in a deep pit. The pits are in the covent.

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JackSpratt wrote:
There were a few when I was there. They were always buried in a cemetery'
Anthony, I believe you might be thinking of the catholics. From what I understand when the nuns deliver a baby by the priests, the baby is babtized then killed before they throw it in a deep pit. The pits are in the covent.
What" Holy "What" Is that something you learned at the cult or hear in the free world Jack?? Just wondering ??

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Mar 24, 2008
 
Free world, well, actually doing some unauthorized reading (eyewitness accounts by former nuns) while living in the foundation. Catholics don't like to talk about it but, they don't like to talk about the thousands and thousands of pediphile priests either.

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JackSpratt wrote:
Free world, well, actually doing some unauthorized reading (eyewitness accounts by former nuns) while living in the foundation. Catholics don't like to talk about it but, they don't like to talk about the thousands and thousands of pediphile priests either.
True

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From tonyalamonews.com - VERIFIABLE FACTS WEB SITE
Most of the children born into the Tony Alamo Ministries have no birth certificates or legal identification. Unless there is a complication in the delivery of a child, all children are born using a midwife in the home.( They do not have license which Arkansas requires)

There is no way to prove how many children are born into the group or how many die because of this blatant disregard for the legal system. Unfortunately, when the children become adults and leave the group, they have no way of proving their identity.

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Interesting but, I think they could apply for a social security card and get a job. Uncle sam will never say "no" to income tax money.
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JackSpratt wrote:
Interesting but, I think they could apply for a social security card and get a job. Uncle sam will never say "no" to income tax money.
I THINK YOU NEED TO GO SOME WHERE AND SHUT UP....
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JackSpratt wrote:
There were a few when I was there. They were always buried in a cemetery'
Anthony, I believe you might be thinking of the catholics. From what I understand when the nuns deliver a baby by the priests, the baby is babtized then killed before they throw it in a deep pit. The pits are in the covent.
I dont think you where ever there i think you are just running your mouth and talking some of Anthony's stories just leaving alot out.cause you dont seam like a man that has been in the cult and lived the cult life
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Mar 26, 2008
 
Well if jack spratt was not there,he is right about the church buring the the young kids in a cemetery.
While I was in the church we always held proper services when one passed away,and they are in public cemeteries
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Mar 26, 2008
 
Shocker where you in the church ?

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Les Wood wrote:
Shocker where you in the church ?
Tony Alamo's Baby cemeteries and unlicensed Midwives

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Les Wood wrote:
I have never heard of a baby dying at the church.
Maybe they didn't think it was any of your business.

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It is typical of cult groups to use midwives – usually unlicensed because another cult commonality is to not register their newborns and a licensed midwife is required to report the births that they are involved in. This enables the total control of the group on the young and into adulthood.

These cults don’t just happen. They begin as something good and then turn bad. In the turning, they continue to breed new members in and a decade or so later the group is larger and more controllable. Children are the easiest to manipulate and many predators rely on this. Once a child is born and raised with the cult mentality and conditioning, there is no telling them that their way of life is not normal because it is all they know, it is their life.

The predators or cult leaders are typically sociopaths and have no guilt or remorse for corrupting or taking advantage of innocence. It is sad but true.

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The two midwives I knew of, were Bonnie T. and Gloria V. Gloria was actually Bonnie's understudy, when my husband and I were first married and instructed to move from Nashville, Tn., to move in with them, in Arlington, Texas.

Since I'd had some nursing experience (I'd actually been 6 months shy of finishing my 4 year degree, when my husband and I married), Gloria V., going on and on about how much the church needs midwives, tried to get me interested in being a midwife, learning from Bonnie. I declined.

Everything the midwives know, they learn from one of the midwife elders, such as Bonnie T. Where Bonnie T. obtained her skills, I do not know.

They are not licensed. That much I learned within a few months of my (thankfully) brief experience with them.

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Apr 8, 2008
 
Gloria Vincent passed away and is now in Heaven.

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